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| amallagh |
Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Cheshire, England Member No.: 6,767 |
I've recently converted my 914-6 to a 2.4S spec engine with PMO 40 carbs.
The engine/heads are standard S spec but with 2.2S pistons giving about 9.3:1 compression rather and the std 8.5:1. Can any one recommend a specific cam profile/supplier that is optimised for use on carbs with an S spec engine ? If the std S cams from an MFI engine are considered to the the best for this application then I would be happy to hear your experiences. I'm looking for a fast road cam to give me similar performance to the std S cams on MFI. The car is used on the road as well as for competition, so I need something smoothy and tractible at low RPM. Regards Andrew |
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| Phoenix-MN |
Jul 17 2008, 04:16 PM
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I think "Solex" was coined from the very ealy 911 engines cam spec that first used the Solex Carbs. The actual cam spec is somewhere between a "S" and a "E" grind. Someone can chime in if there is more to this.
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 17 2008, 06:27 PM
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
I think "Solex" was coined from the very ealy 911 engines cam spec that first used the Solex Carbs. You really need all the numbers in any discussion of 911 camshafts, by which is meant Anderson's 911 Handboox and Frère's "911 Story" that have all the lift, duration, and lobe center data. Steve Weiner's Rennwerk site and WebCam's site also are great repositories of real data. One thing to be aware of when comparing cam profiles - Porsche specifies timing at 0,1mm (near 'nuff 0.040"). The US 'standard' for cam timing is 0.050" so you need to read the small numbers and compare apples and oranges... here's some cam data, copied by hand from WebCam, which I'm sure has already been posted to multiple threads by now... CODE Cam intake exhaust lobe ctr 911T 216º .387" 207º .345 105º 911E 230º .408 222º .393 NA 911S 264º .450 236º .400 101º Solex 244º .439 234º .406 97º 906 282º .465 252º .406 95º the 906 kinda represents the "ultimate" small-bore 911 cam and didn't really start making power until 8000 rpm when used with 46mm Webers (and later MFI). I can tell you from personal experience that E cams are very nice in a carbureted engine (BTDT). |
amallagh Camshaft recommendation for PMO'd 2.4S ? Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
brant Andrew,
have you driven an S cam MFI vehicle?
if... Jul 16 2008, 05:28 PM
ArtechnikA
...so if you need something more tractable, then ... Jul 17 2008, 06:52 AM
J P Stein Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a street... Jul 16 2008, 06:01 PM
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Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a stree... Jul 16 2008, 07:29 PM
scotty b +1 for Solex :driving: S is great once you hit 6... Jul 16 2008, 08:14 PM
Phoenix-MN :agree: B)-->
Root_Werks
:agree: B)--><div class='quotetop... Jul 24 2008, 11:21 AM
amallagh Excuse my ignorance but what exactly in a Solex gr... Jul 17 2008, 03:01 PM
amallagh Great info, thankyou.
So is the Solex cam specifi... Jul 17 2008, 07:02 PM
ArtechnikA
So is the Solex cam specifically optimised for us... Jul 17 2008, 07:39 PM
J P Stein The big "problem" with S cams is duratio... Jul 17 2008, 07:31 PM
ArtechnikA
MFI delivers fuel below the butterflies and has t... Jul 17 2008, 07:46 PM
J P Stein Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S com... Jul 17 2008, 08:38 PM
scotty b
Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co... Jul 17 2008, 08:43 PM
ArtechnikA
Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co... Jul 17 2008, 09:51 PM
brant You've opened a big mystery box now
there are ... Jul 17 2008, 08:42 PM
ArtechnikA
by the way, you can get GE grinds for 3 bearing s... Jul 17 2008, 10:01 PM
brant
did we ever establish if those are available for ... Jul 17 2008, 10:09 PM
ArtechnikA
I know they exist
I wish I knew you were looking
... Jul 17 2008, 11:47 PM
amallagh So if I glean some of the different opinions expre... Jul 18 2008, 03:23 AM
ArtechnikA
If the Solex cam is ideal for a PMO set up with S... Jul 18 2008, 05:32 AM
J P Stein Like most of these old parts (or old style), findi... Jul 18 2008, 07:29 AM
ArtechnikA
I forget exactly where I got these....no matter, ... Jul 18 2008, 10:13 AM
J P Stein The "ideal" cams for carbs would be the ... Jul 18 2008, 07:49 AM
J P Stein 40s...sorry about the lousy pic. :D Jul 18 2008, 05:01 PM
ArtechnikA
40s...sorry about the lousy pic.
Actually it... Jul 18 2008, 05:14 PM
TimT Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams,... Jul 18 2008, 07:29 PM
amallagh
Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams... Jul 23 2008, 04:30 PM
6freak
Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cam... Jul 24 2008, 10:42 AM
TimT I forgot to add, I have dyno plots somwhere of t... Jul 18 2008, 07:38 PM
J P Stein Hay, Tim, that is a good buy. Jul 18 2008, 09:20 PM
6freak
Hay, Tim, that is a good buy.
Sent the man a P... Jul 23 2008, 09:47 AM
sixnotfour the cam card is listed on the website, looked at i... Jul 24 2008, 10:48 AM
amallagh
the cam card is listed on the website, looked at ... Jul 24 2008, 01:29 PM
J P Stein Solex & S cams have the same 97 deg lobe cent... Jul 24 2008, 07:06 PM![]() ![]() |
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