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| amallagh |
Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Cheshire, England Member No.: 6,767 |
I've recently converted my 914-6 to a 2.4S spec engine with PMO 40 carbs.
The engine/heads are standard S spec but with 2.2S pistons giving about 9.3:1 compression rather and the std 8.5:1. Can any one recommend a specific cam profile/supplier that is optimised for use on carbs with an S spec engine ? If the std S cams from an MFI engine are considered to the the best for this application then I would be happy to hear your experiences. I'm looking for a fast road cam to give me similar performance to the std S cams on MFI. The car is used on the road as well as for competition, so I need something smoothy and tractible at low RPM. Regards Andrew |
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| brant |
Jul 17 2008, 08:42 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,167 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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You've opened a big mystery box now
there are lots of tricks, and lots of ways to get the most out of it. and it really all boils down to intended use: what RPM will you really be at street or race, because you can't maximize both.... by the way, you can get GE grinds for 3 bearring set ups most of the guys I know run GE60's on the street and most of the guys I race with run GE100's (on 1967 2.0/6 motors) you can really really help jetting by using IDS style auxillary enrichment devices, and also by running tall 2ndary venturi's you can work around flat spots by changing primary venturi's or changing gearing. not to mention the use of a wideband type system to actually get it perfect. I do all of the above I love the auxillary enrichment tubes, and I run an F/J/O/S/V gearbox that leaves me in the power band at all times... Attached thumbnail(s) |
| ArtechnikA |
Jul 17 2008, 10:01 PM
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
by the way, you can get GE grinds for 3 bearing set ups cool deal, good to know! QUOTE most of the guys I know run GE60's on the street the GE80 is a little milder than a RSR Sprint cam and one of the contending profiles for my 2,8. QUOTE ...by running tall 2ndary venturi's did we ever establish if those are available for 46's? 'Cause I have a pair of those in case I get impatient while saving my nickels & dimes for an RSR MFI setup... |
| brant |
Jul 17 2008, 10:09 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,167 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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...by running tall 2ndary venturi's[/quote] did we ever establish if those are available for 46's? 'Cause I have a pair of those in case I get impatient while saving my nickels & dimes for an RSR MFI setup... [/quote] Rich, I know they exist I wish I knew you were looking my buddy just sold a set about 3 weeks back.. fairly reasonably too... (his were running on a 906 cam'd 2.0/6 GT 914 racer) Attached image(s)
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 17 2008, 11:47 PM
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
I know they exist I wish I knew you were looking my buddy just sold a set about 3 weeks back.. fairly reasonably too... 3 weeks ago we were on the roadtrip to MN and back and wouldn't have been able to afford them, reasonable or not. Still getting caught up from that expense, just in time to go buy this winter's heating oil contract, right ahead of the property tax. Things get 'normal' again around October... If you come across another set, keep me in mind. It finally ocurred to me to go check the carbs I've got - they've been boxed since i finalized that deal more than a year ago. Took the rainsields off and - well, they look a lot like that picture! They extend about an inch up over the baseplate, maybe 2 inches down into the velocity stack. I thought I remembered the 40's extending nearly to the top of the stack. Don't s'pose you have any meansurements so I can see what it is I've really got? ( I've seen the standard 40 aux vent's and these are definitely taller than those, but they don't come near the top of the stack... ). These carbs had previously been used in a track car and have all the earmarks of having been set up right. ( Sorry about the temporary thread hijack - as you were... ) |
amallagh Camshaft recommendation for PMO'd 2.4S ? Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
brant Andrew,
have you driven an S cam MFI vehicle?
if... Jul 16 2008, 05:28 PM
ArtechnikA
...so if you need something more tractable, then ... Jul 17 2008, 06:52 AM
J P Stein Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a street... Jul 16 2008, 06:01 PM
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Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a stree... Jul 16 2008, 07:29 PM
scotty b +1 for Solex :driving: S is great once you hit 6... Jul 16 2008, 08:14 PM
Phoenix-MN :agree: B)-->
Root_Werks
:agree: B)--><div class='quotetop... Jul 24 2008, 11:21 AM
amallagh Excuse my ignorance but what exactly in a Solex gr... Jul 17 2008, 03:01 PM
Phoenix-MN I think "Solex" was coined from the very... Jul 17 2008, 04:16 PM
ArtechnikA
I think "Solex" was coined from the ver... Jul 17 2008, 06:27 PM
amallagh Great info, thankyou.
So is the Solex cam specifi... Jul 17 2008, 07:02 PM
ArtechnikA
So is the Solex cam specifically optimised for us... Jul 17 2008, 07:39 PM
J P Stein The big "problem" with S cams is duratio... Jul 17 2008, 07:31 PM
ArtechnikA
MFI delivers fuel below the butterflies and has t... Jul 17 2008, 07:46 PM
J P Stein Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S com... Jul 17 2008, 08:38 PM
scotty b
Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co... Jul 17 2008, 08:43 PM
ArtechnikA
Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co... Jul 17 2008, 09:51 PM
amallagh So if I glean some of the different opinions expre... Jul 18 2008, 03:23 AM
ArtechnikA
If the Solex cam is ideal for a PMO set up with S... Jul 18 2008, 05:32 AM
J P Stein Like most of these old parts (or old style), findi... Jul 18 2008, 07:29 AM
ArtechnikA
I forget exactly where I got these....no matter, ... Jul 18 2008, 10:13 AM
J P Stein The "ideal" cams for carbs would be the ... Jul 18 2008, 07:49 AM
J P Stein 40s...sorry about the lousy pic. :D Jul 18 2008, 05:01 PM
ArtechnikA
40s...sorry about the lousy pic.
Actually it... Jul 18 2008, 05:14 PM
TimT Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams,... Jul 18 2008, 07:29 PM
amallagh
Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams... Jul 23 2008, 04:30 PM
6freak
Amallagh,
I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cam... Jul 24 2008, 10:42 AM
TimT I forgot to add, I have dyno plots somwhere of t... Jul 18 2008, 07:38 PM
J P Stein Hay, Tim, that is a good buy. Jul 18 2008, 09:20 PM
6freak
Hay, Tim, that is a good buy.
Sent the man a P... Jul 23 2008, 09:47 AM
sixnotfour the cam card is listed on the website, looked at i... Jul 24 2008, 10:48 AM
amallagh
the cam card is listed on the website, looked at ... Jul 24 2008, 01:29 PM
J P Stein Solex & S cams have the same 97 deg lobe cent... Jul 24 2008, 07:06 PM![]() ![]() |
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