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> Camshaft recommendation for PMO'd 2.4S ?
amallagh
post Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
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I've recently converted my 914-6 to a 2.4S spec engine with PMO 40 carbs.

The engine/heads are standard S spec but with 2.2S pistons giving about 9.3:1 compression rather and the std 8.5:1.

Can any one recommend a specific cam profile/supplier that is optimised for use on carbs with an S spec engine ?
If the std S cams from an MFI engine are considered to the the best for this application then I would be happy to hear your experiences.
I'm looking for a fast road cam to give me similar performance to the std S cams on MFI. The car is used on the road as well as for competition, so I need something smoothy and tractible at low RPM.

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post Jul 18 2008, 03:23 AM
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So if I glean some of the different opinions expressed here then the Solex cam is better optimised for a carbed engine then the S profile.

The reduced overlap seemed to be one of the factors that drove this so I surprised to see someone suggesting GE cams profiles which I thought had a lot of overlap. But maybe they were talking just for pure racing and weren't worried about the low to mid range.

On a comparative basis then I would still be interested if anyone had any experience of the relative peak power outputs of E, Solex and S cams on a Weber/PMO 2.4 with S heads. I understand that the absolute power depends on other factors. (In have PMOs with 40/34 venturi, std S heads & ports with 1.5" Bursch headers and a fairly std Bursch 911 exhaust to keep the noise down for use on track)

I see people saying that it is 'impossible' to optimise things for track and road, and of course this is correct. But I am looking for that compromise set up for a road car that is also used for some competition use.

My decision appear to be whether to go for another set of S cams or change to the Solex or E cams if I'm trying to improve the mid range a little without compromising the top end too much. That's why I'm interested in some estimate of the relative peak power outputs of the 3 choices.


If the Solex cam is ideal for a PMO set up with S heads then the next question if where to I get a new or reground pair at a reasonable price ?

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post Jul 18 2008, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(amallagh @ Jul 18 2008, 05:23 AM) *

If the Solex cam is ideal for a PMO set up with S heads then the next question if where to I get a new or reground pair at a reasonable price ?


Web-CamDo the Product Search, select Automobile, Porsche, 911 SOHC 12valve, and you get a nice page of options. At the top is the 1966 Solex profile, which per the July 2008 price update are US$718 in hard-weld, $878 on new billet. All the popular profiles are the same price, as you'd expect.

To do it right, you'll also need 12 matched rockers - WebCam will hard-weld and grind your cores for $65 each. They list rebushing separately.

The Euro is at historic rates vs the US$. Strike while the iron is hot.

( I have no personal affilliation with WebCam, and they don't need me to shill for them. )

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amallagh   Camshaft recommendation for PMO'd 2.4S ?   Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM
brant   Andrew, have you driven an S cam MFI vehicle? if...   Jul 16 2008, 05:28 PM
ArtechnikA   ...so if you need something more tractable, then ...   Jul 17 2008, 06:52 AM
J P Stein   Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a street...   Jul 16 2008, 06:01 PM
396   Solex or E cams are the cat's ass for a stree...   Jul 16 2008, 07:29 PM
scotty b   +1 for Solex :driving: S is great once you hit 6...   Jul 16 2008, 08:14 PM
Phoenix-MN   :agree: B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b ...   Jul 16 2008, 08:19 PM
Root_Werks   :agree: B)--><div class='quotetop...   Jul 24 2008, 11:21 AM
amallagh   Excuse my ignorance but what exactly in a Solex gr...   Jul 17 2008, 03:01 PM
Phoenix-MN   I think "Solex" was coined from the very...   Jul 17 2008, 04:16 PM
ArtechnikA   I think "Solex" was coined from the ver...   Jul 17 2008, 06:27 PM
amallagh   Great info, thankyou. So is the Solex cam specifi...   Jul 17 2008, 07:02 PM
ArtechnikA   So is the Solex cam specifically optimised for us...   Jul 17 2008, 07:39 PM
J P Stein   The big "problem" with S cams is duratio...   Jul 17 2008, 07:31 PM
ArtechnikA   MFI delivers fuel below the butterflies and has t...   Jul 17 2008, 07:46 PM
J P Stein   Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S com...   Jul 17 2008, 08:38 PM
scotty b   Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co...   Jul 17 2008, 08:43 PM
ArtechnikA   Tho I can't prove it, I suspect the MFI, S co...   Jul 17 2008, 09:51 PM
brant   You've opened a big mystery box now there are ...   Jul 17 2008, 08:42 PM
ArtechnikA   by the way, you can get GE grinds for 3 bearing s...   Jul 17 2008, 10:01 PM
brant   did we ever establish if those are available for ...   Jul 17 2008, 10:09 PM
ArtechnikA   I know they exist I wish I knew you were looking ...   Jul 17 2008, 11:47 PM
amallagh   So if I glean some of the different opinions expre...   Jul 18 2008, 03:23 AM
ArtechnikA   If the Solex cam is ideal for a PMO set up with S...   Jul 18 2008, 05:32 AM
J P Stein   Like most of these old parts (or old style), findi...   Jul 18 2008, 07:29 AM
ArtechnikA   I forget exactly where I got these....no matter, ...   Jul 18 2008, 10:13 AM
J P Stein   The "ideal" cams for carbs would be the ...   Jul 18 2008, 07:49 AM
J P Stein   40s...sorry about the lousy pic. :D   Jul 18 2008, 05:01 PM
ArtechnikA   40s...sorry about the lousy pic. Actually it...   Jul 18 2008, 05:14 PM
TimT   Amallagh, I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams,...   Jul 18 2008, 07:29 PM
amallagh   Amallagh, I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cams...   Jul 23 2008, 04:30 PM
6freak   Amallagh, I have a set of WebCam 158R grind cam...   Jul 24 2008, 10:42 AM
TimT   I forgot to add, I have dyno plots somwhere of t...   Jul 18 2008, 07:38 PM
J P Stein   Hay, Tim, that is a good buy.   Jul 18 2008, 09:20 PM
6freak   Hay, Tim, that is a good buy. Sent the man a P...   Jul 23 2008, 09:47 AM
sixnotfour   the cam card is listed on the website, looked at i...   Jul 24 2008, 10:48 AM
amallagh   the cam card is listed on the website, looked at ...   Jul 24 2008, 01:29 PM
J P Stein   Solex & S cams have the same 97 deg lobe cent...   Jul 24 2008, 07:06 PM


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