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JeffBowlsby
post Aug 10 2008, 09:48 PM
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Someone recently posted their story of their SUV getting rear ended and the trailer hitch preventing a lot of damage. So...

Is it possible that a heavy steel plate or even a dense carbon fiber reinforcement plate could be fabbed to fit between the chassis and behind the front and rear bumpers (stealthy) to add crash protection? I am thinking it could be about the thickness of the dogbone spacers and maybe the bumber bolts feed through it to hold it in place. For the 1970-74 cars.

Good idea?...Bad idea?
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post Aug 11 2008, 03:41 PM
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How about filling the bumpers with energy absorbing foam, like polyurethane or
some closed cell expanding foam?

I was wondering what would happen if you filled the longs completely with some
kind of semi rigid expanding foam. Would that increase side impact protection
and would it keep moisture out as well?

The idea would be to allow the bumpers and longs to absorb more energy in a
collision and thus not deform as much in a major impact.

This is not my area of expertise so it could be just a dumb idea.

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post Aug 11 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(FourBlades @ Aug 11 2008, 05:41 PM) *

I was wondering what would happen if you filled the longs completely with some
kind of semi rigid expanding foam. Would that increase side impact protection
and would it keep moisture out as well?

When it's been tried before it has had the effect of keeping moisture -in- long after it would otherwise have evaporated. (The factory foam-filled sections of a 914 are a case in point...)

But maybe you have access to a better class of foam than has been available in the past. I wouldn't try it in a moist climate, but go for it if you want.

Other things to be aware of: lots of foams make a lot of toxic fumes in a fire and yes I understand your plan is to evacuate quickly in the event of fire, but you're also planning -not- to have the fire in the first place... (You're also planning not to -ever- need bodywork involving welding...) And most foams expand due to chemical reaction, which sometimes means residual reagent that can set off its own reaction.

Creativity is a wonderful thing. This -has- been tried in the past which means you have the advantage of others' learning experience. You may have techniques and materials not available to the pioneers.

But also consider that (like the 356...) the 914 is from an era when collisions were to be avoided rather than survived, although the 914's crumple zones are way better engineered than any 356. I still plan to drive my 356, but I do so in a -very- heightened sense of situational awareness. They're not (passively) "safe" cars like the multi-air-bagged modern stuff.
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Jeff Bowlsby   914 safety upgrade idea   Aug 10 2008, 09:48 PM
KELTY360   This sounds like creativity. :popcorn:   Aug 10 2008, 10:33 PM
plymouth37   This sounds like creativity. :popcorn: :rotf...   Aug 10 2008, 10:52 PM
Wilhelm   When My S-10 blazer got rear ended it got hit on t...   Aug 11 2008, 12:17 AM
sww914   I've been in & out of the autobody busines...   Aug 11 2008, 12:34 AM
FourBlades   How about filling the bumpers with energy absorbin...   Aug 11 2008, 03:41 PM
ArtechnikA   I was wondering what would happen if you filled t...   Aug 11 2008, 04:09 PM
jhadler   I'm with Steve here... Rigidly reinforcing th...   Aug 11 2008, 03:44 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Energy dissipation is CRITICAL. I think this th...   Aug 11 2008, 04:54 PM
r_towle   This is interesting. When I was deciding if my so...   Aug 11 2008, 04:33 PM
Matt Meyer   Add 75'/76' bumpers to the ends. :rotfl:...   Aug 12 2008, 01:00 PM
zx-niner   Add 75'/76' bumpers to the ends. :rotfl...   Aug 12 2008, 10:49 PM
ericread   How about this? Once the driver and passenger are...   Aug 12 2008, 01:12 PM
Jax914   I think adding the spray foam to the back of the f...   Aug 12 2008, 10:13 PM
Spoke   Bang. Pound pound pound paint   Aug 12 2008, 10:37 PM
FourBlades   My thoughts about filling the longs with foam are ...   Aug 13 2008, 07:42 AM
Dave_Darling   Roll cages pose their own set of problems. Like b...   Aug 13 2008, 10:10 AM
grantsfo   I agree with leaving 914 as is. I was rear ended ...   Aug 13 2008, 04:48 PM
ChrisNPDrider   This is interesting. ...the tits focus the crash ...   Aug 14 2008, 01:37 AM


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