The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
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The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
Pat Garvey |
Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Ok, this is my 3000th post. I saved this one because of how Porsche has delivered us "stalwarts" to unneccesary and even "backwoods".
Those of us who own classic 911's and 914's do most of our own work. Why, because the cars are relatively simple. Buy some books & tools - you can do most anything. About 10 years ago Porsche lost me. They became too complicated to handle for a mere bean counter. Just recently, I read an article about a 30 year member of PCA who bought a Cayman S,took it to the PCA Parade, and didn't know how to make the engine compartment visible for concours judging (He f_ing won!). Of course it was brand new! Wow, what a devastating win! My point is - Porsches have become too complicated. Am I a fogey - bet your ass! I don't want 300 dollar oil changes & transmission complexities that are meant for the track. I want relative simplicity. I'm pushing retirement (well, actually I retired 5 years ago). I envisioned a 914/6GT or a 911RS as my retirement present to myself. or, just maybe a GT2. They've all priced themselves to levels that I don't want to commit to. May still happen. But, my biggest problem is that Porsche, in my opinion is NOT Porcshe anymore They want us to "lease" every 4-5 years . The current management does not care about the Porscephiles that made them successful. They are not much different than GM or Ford. Yes, Porsche makles an excellent car, but one that any idiot can drive well. Everything that made a Porsche a car to be mastered has been removed/replaced by electronics. Porsche is way too concerned with making money ( I wouldn't bitch if I could only buy some stock) and taking control of VW (why?) Shouldn't they me trying for another entry level Porsche? Say, something around $28K, that an idiot like me could maintain? Nope, they've sold us out! Yep, I'm pissed! Pat ps: Happy 3000th post to me! |
scotty b |
Aug 18 2008, 07:20 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
MAZDAS RULE !!!!
(IMG:http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/scotb/2fast202furious20S2000.jpg) I actually agree with Pat. Sorry Andy but Porsche IS NOT what it used to be. It USED to be a sports car. Yes they sdtill make a sports car but it USED to be EVERY Porsche was a dportd car. Bare bones driving. Now they have cup holders, GPS, power everything. I have said for yaers I'd love to see Porsche build a bare bones car again. It would sell. Gauranteed. A real manual transmission, with linkage and a shift LEVER, 250-300 H.P., 2 seats, minor carpeting NO insulation, Manual steering, MAYBE A.C., MAYBE power windows and a radio. Nothing else, just pure driving pleasure. I'd buy it. |
AgPete139 |
Aug 19 2008, 12:31 AM
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AgPete139 Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 12-February 08 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 8,701 Region Association: South East States |
You DO realize that this is a Honda 2000? I would love to own a 993 someday, but most of yall have to realize: 90% of people use cars for transportation purposes. Not everyone is car crazy like us or enjoy getting grease up to our elbows. Most just want to drive a car, have the prestige and pomp of driving the latest leased Porsche, and just use it as a status symbol these days. Porsche is putting their eggs into a single basket: the high priced consumer end. It keeps the value of the vehicles up by having high sales and few products, and it is still just a business. They are creating a product, and they are producing a top quality race car. Entry level roadsters mean nothing to them, and they have dealerships that can perform all the maintenance required for these vehicles. Its a transporter for the average American, not you or me. Home mechanics are small fry and get our cars used/pre-owned. Pat, I feel you. I'm 24 and share your same sentiment. The electronics are inevitable in this Age of Technology, and there will still be ways around the wire clusters and you'll just need to get a feel for what each block of transistors and resistors do. |
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