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> HELP Car waiting for tow, problem diagnosis., Starter issue?
klikkid3
post Aug 27 2008, 01:22 PM
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So I recently get done with my front bearing project and the car was running so smooth and nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) that I had that fear in the back of my mind about when it was all going to end. Well today I was coasting down mountain ave when the light changed so I down shifted into third, and it started. The starter is staying engaged with or without the key in. I pulled over and popped the lid and disconnected the negative terminal. Checked the wiring at the selenoid which looked normal, every time I reconnect the battery the starter engages and attempts to start the car. What do you all think? There is the obvious replace the starter but any other suggestions? I have a tow kit on it so I will try and get it home to take a closer look. Help!
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post Aug 29 2008, 09:49 PM
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Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you have the "logic circuit" under there...It looks like a 2.5 inch long relay.

If not, time to take apart the steering column.

Remove horn (turn counter clockwise while pressing in...it pops about a 1/4 turn, then lift off and unplug the horn wire while lifting...so dont just yank)

Remove large nut, 24mm I think...
Pull wheel, set on a rag, its greasy on the bottom.
Four screws, little flat heads are facing you...remove them.
Gently pull blinker arm and wiper arm towards your face....
there are two plugs that connect these so you are pulling and possibly crawling under the dash to unplug them first...
There are also two washer hoses on the left side that you need to remove...

Once all of that is out, you can pull the lock tumbler
Behind the lock tumber is the cheap ass plastic broken igntion switch.
When you order a new one, buy two they are cheap...and you will break it again.

I found that the only one out there is for certain columns and needs to be shaved to fit in the older column....depends upon the column in your car...you will match it to your exiting switch.

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post Aug 29 2008, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 29 2008, 08:49 PM) *

Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you have the "logic circuit" under there...It looks like a 2.5 inch long relay.

If not, time to take apart the steering column.

Remove horn (turn counter clockwise while pressing in...it pops about a 1/4 turn, then lift off and unplug the horn wire while lifting...so dont just yank)

Remove large nut, 24mm I think...
Pull wheel, set on a rag, its greasy on the bottom.
Four screws, little flat heads are facing you...remove them.
Gently pull blinker arm and wiper arm towards your face....
there are two plugs that connect these so you are pulling and possibly crawling under the dash to unplug them first...
There are also two washer hoses on the left side that you need to remove...

Once all of that is out, you can pull the lock tumbler
Behind the lock tumber is the cheap ass plastic broken igntion switch.
When you order a new one, buy two they are cheap...and you will break it again.

I found that the only one out there is for certain columns and needs to be shaved to fit in the older column....depends upon the column in your car...you will match it to your exiting switch.

Rich

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) "Cheap ass plastic broken ignition switch" there is no way I could miss it with a description like that.
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klikkid3   HELP Car waiting for tow, problem diagnosis.   Aug 27 2008, 01:22 PM
Bartlett 914   So I recently get done with my front bearing proj...   Aug 27 2008, 01:28 PM
orange914   Pull the yellow wire off the solenoid. If this fi...   Aug 27 2008, 04:49 PM
klikkid3   Pull the yellow wire off the solenoid. If this f...   Aug 29 2008, 07:45 PM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='1072245' date='Aug ...   Aug 29 2008, 09:31 PM
r_towle   starter relay could be shot. I agree, unplug the ...   Aug 27 2008, 03:44 PM
jsayre914   probably the ignition switch, 20 min fix. even if...   Aug 27 2008, 03:53 PM
klikkid3   I made sure to pull over and disconnect the batter...   Aug 27 2008, 04:01 PM
jsayre914   I made sure to pull over and disconnect the batte...   Aug 27 2008, 06:10 PM
vsg914   Switch is stuck in the on position. replace it.   Aug 27 2008, 07:08 PM
klikkid3   I will give it a try tonight, cant imagine what th...   Aug 28 2008, 04:14 PM
t collins   That one is easy, remove the nut form inside the e...   Aug 29 2008, 07:56 PM
klikkid3   Well its not the starter :confused: , new ones is...   Aug 29 2008, 09:41 PM
r_towle   Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you h...   Aug 29 2008, 09:49 PM
klikkid3   Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you ...   Aug 29 2008, 09:58 PM
r_towle   its always the cheap ass plastic part that leaves ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:00 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the key ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:42 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the key...   Aug 29 2008, 11:03 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the ke...   Aug 29 2008, 11:10 PM
r_towle   you have issues. First, the switch may be screwed...   Aug 29 2008, 11:27 PM
klikkid3   Ok so I found the tiny screw on the side to get th...   Aug 30 2008, 01:31 AM
RoadGlue   Thankfully the switch is a $10 part (or less)...   Aug 30 2008, 02:27 AM
r_towle   Now you see why I called it a cheap ass plastic pa...   Aug 30 2008, 12:10 PM
klikkid3   I havent picked up the new switch yet, the website...   Aug 30 2008, 01:48 PM
ws91420   I havent picked up the new switch yet, the websit...   Aug 30 2008, 08:55 PM
RoadGlue   The photo makes it look like the red wire isn...   Aug 30 2008, 01:52 PM
RoadGlue   On second look, I think it's just a trick of t...   Aug 30 2008, 01:55 PM
klikkid3   On second look, I think it's just a trick of ...   Aug 30 2008, 02:24 PM
ArtechnikA   I am predicting that the ...yellow wire also melt...   Aug 30 2008, 06:35 PM
klikkid3   I am predicting that the ...yellow wire also mel...   Aug 30 2008, 06:41 PM
ArtechnikA   ...I have 18 volts at the red wire attached to th...   Aug 30 2008, 07:02 PM
klikkid3   Well new starter switch is in and same result, sta...   Aug 30 2008, 06:15 PM
klikkid3   I agree, here is the latest, the yellow wire is fi...   Aug 30 2008, 07:54 PM
orange914   I agree, here is the latest, the yellow wire is f...   Aug 30 2008, 08:56 PM
markb   Yup, it sounds like somebody added the red wire. I...   Aug 30 2008, 10:36 PM
orange914   Yup, it sounds like somebody added the red wire. ...   Aug 30 2008, 11:18 PM
klikkid3   :agree: You guys nailed it, I have left the red wi...   Aug 31 2008, 03:09 PM
r_towle   Your surge protector has melted inside and is now ...   Aug 31 2008, 03:50 PM
orange914   Your surge protector has melted inside and is now...   Aug 31 2008, 08:52 PM


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