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> HELP Car waiting for tow, problem diagnosis., Starter issue?
klikkid3
post Aug 27 2008, 01:22 PM
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So I recently get done with my front bearing project and the car was running so smooth and nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) that I had that fear in the back of my mind about when it was all going to end. Well today I was coasting down mountain ave when the light changed so I down shifted into third, and it started. The starter is staying engaged with or without the key in. I pulled over and popped the lid and disconnected the negative terminal. Checked the wiring at the selenoid which looked normal, every time I reconnect the battery the starter engages and attempts to start the car. What do you all think? There is the obvious replace the starter but any other suggestions? I have a tow kit on it so I will try and get it home to take a closer look. Help!
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post Aug 30 2008, 12:10 PM
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Now you see why I called it a cheap ass plastic part....

Get two...you will break it again...

On the starter.
Please show your wiring right at the starter.
What wire goes to what post?

There should only be three, and the number shall be three.

There are two large posts and one flat spade terminal.
One large post has just a ground strap that goes from the starter solenoid (the round coke can sized thing) to the main body of the starter.

The second large post has two wired going to it.
One large battery cable that goes to the battery positive terminal.
One smaller wire, red, that goes to the alternator.

The flat spade terminal is on top of the solenoid at about 12 oclock and this terminal has the yellow wire that goes to the ignition switch.

Please explain what your wiring is like.

What you need to make sure of is that the spade terminal has no power when the key is off. This is the trigger that engages the solenoid and should only get power when the key is in the start position. NO OTHER POSITION.

There will be power on the large terminal, its the one that goes to the battery...so that is correct.

If all the wiring is as described, you need to physically follow the yellow wire all the way from the starter to the key...it may have been spliced in to something wrong, or melted, or or or...
You need to touch it all the way to the key.

RIch

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klikkid3   HELP Car waiting for tow, problem diagnosis.   Aug 27 2008, 01:22 PM
Bartlett 914   So I recently get done with my front bearing proj...   Aug 27 2008, 01:28 PM
orange914   Pull the yellow wire off the solenoid. If this fi...   Aug 27 2008, 04:49 PM
klikkid3   Pull the yellow wire off the solenoid. If this f...   Aug 29 2008, 07:45 PM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='1072245' date='Aug ...   Aug 29 2008, 09:31 PM
r_towle   starter relay could be shot. I agree, unplug the ...   Aug 27 2008, 03:44 PM
jsayre914   probably the ignition switch, 20 min fix. even if...   Aug 27 2008, 03:53 PM
klikkid3   I made sure to pull over and disconnect the batter...   Aug 27 2008, 04:01 PM
jsayre914   I made sure to pull over and disconnect the batte...   Aug 27 2008, 06:10 PM
vsg914   Switch is stuck in the on position. replace it.   Aug 27 2008, 07:08 PM
klikkid3   I will give it a try tonight, cant imagine what th...   Aug 28 2008, 04:14 PM
t collins   That one is easy, remove the nut form inside the e...   Aug 29 2008, 07:56 PM
klikkid3   Well its not the starter :confused: , new ones is...   Aug 29 2008, 09:41 PM
r_towle   Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you h...   Aug 29 2008, 09:49 PM
klikkid3   Look under the passenger seat and tell us if you ...   Aug 29 2008, 09:58 PM
r_towle   its always the cheap ass plastic part that leaves ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:00 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the key ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:42 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the key...   Aug 29 2008, 11:03 PM
klikkid3   Rich, I read earlier on this post to keep the ke...   Aug 29 2008, 11:10 PM
r_towle   you have issues. First, the switch may be screwed...   Aug 29 2008, 11:27 PM
klikkid3   Ok so I found the tiny screw on the side to get th...   Aug 30 2008, 01:31 AM
RoadGlue   Thankfully the switch is a $10 part (or less)...   Aug 30 2008, 02:27 AM
r_towle   Now you see why I called it a cheap ass plastic pa...   Aug 30 2008, 12:10 PM
klikkid3   I havent picked up the new switch yet, the website...   Aug 30 2008, 01:48 PM
ws91420   I havent picked up the new switch yet, the websit...   Aug 30 2008, 08:55 PM
RoadGlue   The photo makes it look like the red wire isn...   Aug 30 2008, 01:52 PM
RoadGlue   On second look, I think it's just a trick of t...   Aug 30 2008, 01:55 PM
klikkid3   On second look, I think it's just a trick of ...   Aug 30 2008, 02:24 PM
ArtechnikA   I am predicting that the ...yellow wire also melt...   Aug 30 2008, 06:35 PM
klikkid3   I am predicting that the ...yellow wire also mel...   Aug 30 2008, 06:41 PM
ArtechnikA   ...I have 18 volts at the red wire attached to th...   Aug 30 2008, 07:02 PM
klikkid3   Well new starter switch is in and same result, sta...   Aug 30 2008, 06:15 PM
klikkid3   I agree, here is the latest, the yellow wire is fi...   Aug 30 2008, 07:54 PM
orange914   I agree, here is the latest, the yellow wire is f...   Aug 30 2008, 08:56 PM
markb   Yup, it sounds like somebody added the red wire. I...   Aug 30 2008, 10:36 PM
orange914   Yup, it sounds like somebody added the red wire. ...   Aug 30 2008, 11:18 PM
klikkid3   :agree: You guys nailed it, I have left the red wi...   Aug 31 2008, 03:09 PM
r_towle   Your surge protector has melted inside and is now ...   Aug 31 2008, 03:50 PM
orange914   Your surge protector has melted inside and is now...   Aug 31 2008, 08:52 PM


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