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| Gint |
Nov 14 2008, 08:23 AM
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Mike Ginter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,106 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'd like to see where the $$$ are spent for a Type IV rebuild. Looking for a complete price break down listing of each of the individual parts (or group of parts, ie. pistons) , machining, labor (if necessary), etc...
Someone has to have done a complete listing of costs during their rebuild. But I've never seen one on this site. |
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| r_towle |
Nov 15 2008, 10:37 PM
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here is your spreadsheet for parts, go price these out to see for yourself.
Jake tends to be very competitive in his parts prices. Engine Gasket set Crankshaft main bearings Front oil seal rear oil seal Camshaft bearings Camshaft seal Rod bearings Rod bolts and nuts (new) Pistons and cylinders Camshaft Lifters Rocker arm adjusters (optional custom push rods) Piston rings 2 cases of oil 4 oil filters Now, machine work etc. You can choose to do or not do these items, so the cost is optional and its based upon your judgement, sac size, and current available funds. Casework Complete blueprint of case including line bore and register facing. Drill and tap oil galley plugs Rod work recondition rods, machine shop work. Head work Clean them with easy off oven cleaner, four times in the chamber. Clean them immediately with Borax for get rid of the black residue from the easy off. Take ink and wipe the chamber (use white or red or pink ink) and let the ink seap into any possible crack...then wipe clean. Take hig resolution pictures, call LEN, email the pictures..do what he says...he is reasonably priced and will only do what you need/want. He will stay in your budget. Given all of that. Get a set of calipers and read the manual...if the current parts are within spec, use them again. re-using pistons is quite acceptable no matter who says you cant. If they are in spec (see the manual for the numbers) then you can use them.. every other motor re-uses pistons...we can and do. They MUST be big enough and in spec. Get the FACTORY manual for the motor. read what they tell you (the manufacturer) you can do with used parts...valves, springs, keepers etc etc etc. I will repeat so you read between the lines... Get the FACTORY manual and read it... You will learn what you can do. Camshaft...that is your call, your judgement...it is matched with the lifters so they come in a set. I have done it with both new and used...they all still run...BUT...you need to check the camshaft and lifters....are they in spec?? Rarely are they in spec...I got lucky a few times...most are burned and the hardness has been worn away (discoloration on the lobes) and once that starts...you aree now gonna grind either the lifter or the camshaft...or both very quickly. You can save money on the gear by removing that yourself and bolting it to the new camshaft... Heads are heads...they are probably cracked..if not use them. 1.7 and 1.8 heads can survive alot of abuse.. Minimum guaranteed need is valve guides and a valve job..that is minimum. the ink will tell you...dont ignore it...it sucks to replace a single pistons and a head for being cheap...and that is what happens. Rich |
Gint Type IV rebuild cost break down Nov 14 2008, 08:23 AM
johannes You can do it from Raby's kit parts list.
You ... Nov 14 2008, 08:58 AM
Gint You can do it from Raby's kit parts list.
You ... Nov 14 2008, 09:11 AM
Vacca Rabite
I'm looking for actual experience, after the... Nov 14 2008, 09:22 AM
Jake Raby
You can do it from Raby's kit parts list.
You... Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM
Vacca Rabite
I'd like to see where the $$$ ... Nov 14 2008, 08:59 AM
brant Mike,
I'm sorry I didn't keep a list
I h... Nov 14 2008, 09:30 AM
Todd Enlund I'm keeping very detailed records, but I'm... Nov 14 2008, 11:35 AM
Gint I think you'll find different people's cos... Nov 14 2008, 08:27 PM
carr914 rdauerhaer(spelling?) has one for sale in the clas... Nov 14 2008, 07:06 PM
rdauenhauer Thanks for the Plug :rolleyes:
But ..thats a com... Nov 14 2008, 07:40 PM
Todd Enlund
Im guessing most folks end up with Carbs so perha... Nov 14 2008, 08:21 PM
brer heads- 600
crank and rods rebuilt - 280
case machi... Nov 15 2008, 03:25 PM
r_towle Stock 2.0 liter.
1800.00
Rich Nov 15 2008, 07:35 PM
Gint If I end up doing this it would appear that The Ty... Nov 15 2008, 09:32 PM
Gint Still looking for itemized lists of rebuild costs.... Nov 18 2008, 06:09 AM
Joe Ricard I don't understand your bump.
I am pretty sur... Nov 18 2008, 10:02 AM
orange914
I am pretty sure several examples have been poste... Nov 25 2008, 12:56 AM
Gint Because I'd like more than 2 :) complete, item... Nov 18 2008, 06:02 PM
brer I'm cleaning a case now for another motor.
I... Nov 18 2008, 06:49 PM
Gint :agree: And not every motor needs the same parts ... Nov 18 2008, 07:38 PM
Joe Ricard Well then I did Rob Waston's 2.0L
Heads freshe... Nov 18 2008, 08:12 PM
Jake Raby The variables between engines will make a thread l... Nov 19 2008, 07:00 AM
Gint Bottomline it costs money to go fast.
I'm not ... Nov 19 2008, 08:39 AM
DBCooper
Remember the old saying- if you have to ask how m... Nov 19 2008, 03:26 PM
ericread
Remember the old saying- if you have to ask how ... Nov 19 2008, 03:57 PM

Todd Enlund
For my use, I track every penny I put into my 914... Nov 19 2008, 04:14 PM

LarryR good luck on your endeavour Nov 19 2008, 09:31 PM
Jake Raby
Remember the old saying- if you have to ask how ... Nov 20 2008, 07:22 AM
r_towle
[quote name='DBCooper' post='1103459' date='Nov 1... Nov 20 2008, 10:17 AM
Chris Hamilton
Thinking this is "Just a Volkswagen Motor... Nov 22 2008, 12:03 AM
Rusty Mike,
Have you gone to Pelican's online store... Nov 19 2008, 07:15 AM
MoveQik Hey Mike....since you aren't getting the info ... Nov 19 2008, 02:51 PM
Gint Thanks Mike! Nov 19 2008, 03:02 PM
Joe Ricard It's really amazing to see the differences dis... Nov 19 2008, 04:18 PM
ericread
It's really amazing to see the differences di... Nov 19 2008, 09:54 PM
DBCooper Reminds me of the advice they give American touris... Nov 19 2008, 09:01 PM
Jake Raby
I'd like to make iit clear that even though ... Nov 20 2008, 12:31 PM
Ferg :rolleyes: Glad this thread is staying on topic :... Nov 20 2008, 02:10 PM
r_towle
:rolleyes: Glad this thread is staying on topic ... Nov 20 2008, 05:08 PM
Gint Thanks again for the posts all.
Time for another ... Nov 21 2008, 03:49 PM
Jake Raby Try asking on the STF or my forums... More buildin... Nov 21 2008, 04:42 PM
g911 Very interesting thread. I'm not sure I total... Nov 21 2008, 05:30 PM
MoveQik So Mike....I see a lot of rhetoric here but I am s... Nov 21 2008, 10:59 PM
Todd Enlund
You should have just asked.
:rotfl: Nov 21 2008, 11:38 PM
Jake Raby
I could not disagree more.
Perhaps this stateme... Nov 22 2008, 01:22 PM
Chris Hamilton
The Type 1 may have a huge aftermarket following... Nov 22 2008, 07:07 PM
Jake Raby
The Type 1 may have a huge aftermarket followin... Nov 22 2008, 07:44 PM
Chris Hamilton
And remember the C/E head only has SIX cooling f... Nov 22 2008, 07:57 PM
pete-stevers again way of the topic ...... :D
jake ...why not... Nov 22 2008, 04:17 PM
Jake Raby Most people that are going to buy the parts to bui... Nov 22 2008, 04:32 PM
DBCooper Jake, when you call people "smart asses... Nov 22 2008, 04:43 PM
Jake Raby Smart asses will be smart asses, they will rear th... Nov 22 2008, 06:22 PM
DBCooper Jake, I give you a heads-up that calling people ... Nov 22 2008, 07:25 PM
Chris Hamilton
Jake, I give you a heads-up that calling people ... Nov 22 2008, 07:32 PM
DBCooper Jake, you said "everything bought for the TI ... Nov 22 2008, 08:12 PM
Jake Raby I apologize for assisting with the thread hi jacki... Nov 22 2008, 08:55 PM
DBCooper
I will email a couple of recent customers and ask... Nov 23 2008, 06:48 AM
Type 4 Unleashed I am doing another motor, a 105 x 82 = 2840, some ... Nov 23 2008, 03:08 AM
Dominic
I'd like to see where the $$$ ... Nov 23 2008, 07:17 AM
zx-niner
Total Engine Parts/labor: $4870.00 (your c... Nov 23 2008, 10:33 AM
Gint Start of the week, weekday :bump:
Richard and Dom... Nov 24 2008, 09:52 AM
TROJANMAN Mike,
If I can find my receipt from Moyle, I... Nov 24 2008, 10:16 AM
Gint Cool. I'd appreciate it. Post it here. Nov 24 2008, 01:35 PM
type11969 Gint-
I just put together a spreadsheet docu... Nov 24 2008, 07:10 PM
brer thought i'd post this here....
http://cgi.eba... Dec 2 2008, 04:55 PM
orange914
thought i'd post this here....
http://cgi.eb... Dec 2 2008, 07:06 PM
Gint Just when you thought the thread hijacks were over... Dec 2 2008, 07:23 PM
brer but i did it for you gint.
:( Dec 2 2008, 08:11 PM
Gint Didn't mean to come off like such a downer. I... Dec 2 2008, 08:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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