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| Root_Werks |
Nov 9 2008, 07:07 PM
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I got home Saturday just around noonish and notice this hanging out at my house:
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Jan 15 2009, 01:59 PM
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I guess I missed it did you guys try some flared rockers to see how they lined up to start with? The curves of the flares and fenders are the easy parts. It's the almost flat areas that are tough. It takes good lighting and the experience to know how to use the angles of the lighting to pick up the very long minute waves. You can't stand back and look too much, always be looking and feeling for waves. On the last guide coat I like to put water on the surface to get it as shiney as possible to check the surfaces. If you are going to remove all the orange peel it will show every wave you miss on the final guide coat. Also the darker the color the more the waves will show up. I close my eyes when I am trying to determine where a small imperfection in the surface is and start with long sweeps of my hand till I feel something then keeping it centered in the sweeps get them shorter and shorter till I can either see or mark the spot. The closer you can get the filler to perfect the less guide coats you will need and the less shrinkage you will see in a coupla years. Also the final finish of the filler should be about 220 grit so as to not have deep scratches to fill with the primer as that can also shrink and show up when the hot solvents sink in from the top coats. If you try to level spots with clear they will usually shrink and show up later. If you use a lot of top coat it will take several months to get fully dry. Try to put a dent in it where it won't show with your fingernail (under a fender lip) a few months down the road and see how far it dents. Usually the dent will come out over time.
When the last coat of clear is on and wet you will know how good of a job you did and whether you might need to leave a little orange peel or not when you are leveling and buffing. If you don't have a real good setup to paint top coats you might want to use some fisheye eliminator. It prevents small oil specks from making pimples in the paint. Urethanes being sortof like plastic don't melt into each other as each coat goes on. If you get through and see a dryspot that looks rough and will need extra leveling you can use some ppg blending solvent to melt the paint down. Be careful and just dust it on and see how it goes, you can add more but too much and it will run or sag. It looks like magic but it will help level overspray or dryspots really well. When you are color sanding if you go through the clear you can put some more on that spot and use the blending solvent on the edge of the new clear to melt the little overspray drops in before you resand it. Be sure and use a tack rag as the blending solvent also has clear it it. When you sand clear between coats to remove nibs or lint, some clears will lift or wrinkle if they are not fully dry especially on the edge where you sand through. Clear is a weak paint and will delaminate easily if you leave to smooth of a surface for it to adhere to I use 400 or a gray scotchbrite pad to scuff the surface real well. It will try to seperate where you are bolting something on it or flexing it. Also something I try to remember when I am spraying top coats is that they are highly prone to attract dust as the electrostatic charge is always there. I have used a jumper cable connected to the underside of the body to try and ground the body to stop it as much as possible. I'm not sure that it helps because of the multiple coats and the filler but I do it anyway. |
Root_Werks How to install Steel Fender Flares on a 914: Nov 9 2008, 07:07 PM
Root_Werks Next thing I know, Steve Peters is pulling flares ... Nov 9 2008, 07:09 PM
Root_Werks By one-o-clock, we had already made our first fitt... Nov 9 2008, 07:10 PM
Gint Apparently it's too damn easy to get across th... Nov 9 2008, 07:33 PM
r_towle Look what happens with slack border controls.
The... Nov 9 2008, 07:35 PM
Todd Enlund
I got home Saturday just around noonish and notic... Nov 9 2008, 07:40 PM
JRust Pics of the installed flares :chow: . Maybe once I... Nov 9 2008, 08:04 PM
RJMII
Pics of the installed flares :chow: . Maybe once ... Nov 9 2008, 08:21 PM
computers4kids
Pics of the installed flares :chow: . Maybe once... Nov 9 2008, 10:20 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT Need more pictures :D
I got to see Dan working h... Nov 9 2008, 10:25 PM
messix i took way more pictures than that.... where are t... Nov 9 2008, 10:44 PM
Root_Werks Sorry guys, I realized after starting this thread ... Nov 9 2008, 11:30 PM
Root_Werks Oh hey Troy and Jon, we finished up around 9PM... Nov 9 2008, 11:32 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT
Oh hey Troy and Jon, we finished up around 9PM... Nov 10 2008, 12:01 AM
messix TEASE :angry: Nov 9 2008, 11:32 PM
pete-stevers I emailed a bunch o pics to dan last nite...but fe... Nov 10 2008, 09:48 AM
pete-stevers the simplicity of the install i will let dan wax e... Nov 10 2008, 09:51 AM
Eric_Shea
Was that beer from within a 50 mile radius of yo... Nov 10 2008, 11:29 AM
pete-stevers
Was that beer from within a 50 mile radius of y... Nov 10 2008, 11:36 AM
Root_Werks Lets see how big or small these pictures are. Thi... Nov 10 2008, 11:39 AM
Root_Werks Hey Steve, these pictures are like 4kb each and pr... Nov 10 2008, 11:41 AM
pete-stevers they are shrunk to the size the site "likes... Nov 10 2008, 11:57 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT
they are shrunk to the size the site "likes... Nov 10 2008, 01:02 PM
Root_Werks Like this? Nov 10 2008, 11:58 AM
Root_Werks Holy crap, these are coming out really tinny. :id... Nov 10 2008, 11:58 AM
DNHunt Jeez, you guys are working on matchbox cars Nov 10 2008, 12:01 PM
Root_Werks
Jeez, you guys are working on matchbox cars
Yea... Nov 10 2008, 12:11 PM
Root_Werks Here is one re-sized: Not pretty. Nov 10 2008, 12:12 PM
pete-stevers let me try Nov 10 2008, 01:01 PM
pete-stevers sum more Nov 10 2008, 01:03 PM
pete-stevers werks for me Nov 10 2008, 01:04 PM
pete-stevers more Nov 10 2008, 01:05 PM
Root_Werks Thanks Steve!
Last couple of pictures there y... Nov 10 2008, 07:14 PM
pete-stevers here are some more Nov 10 2008, 08:07 PM
pete-stevers here is the one you are looking for dan...once the... Nov 10 2008, 08:11 PM
sixnotfour
your babies but will be.(Congrats to you both BT... Nov 10 2008, 08:14 PM
Root_Werks That's funny, I was mentioning to Steve how co... Nov 10 2008, 08:38 PM
Chuck How did you get the bottoms to fit? I've seen ... Nov 10 2008, 08:49 PM
Root_Werks
How did you get the bottoms to fit? I've seen... Nov 10 2008, 09:41 PM
Chuck
How did you get the bottoms to fit? I've see... Nov 10 2008, 11:14 PM
Gint Nice work!
Whatever Steve is using for email ... Nov 10 2008, 09:31 PM
effutuo101 Nice work Dan! I hope to be in line soon. Nov 10 2008, 10:58 PM
TC 914-8 Good Lookin' work Dan, I wish I had steel fla... Nov 11 2008, 12:02 AM
pete-stevers
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='1100810' date='Nov... Nov 11 2008, 12:50 AM
pete-stevers what i can see is you set the flare where it fits ... Nov 11 2008, 12:55 AM
jd74914 Nice work!! :D
But wear safety glasses... Nov 11 2008, 06:37 AM
Chuck Thanks! :trophy: Nov 11 2008, 02:30 PM
cardiaceagle Looks great...
Any raised eyebrows on the return t... Nov 12 2008, 03:43 AM
pete-stevers nope...i told her i went down to a freinds place t... Nov 12 2008, 09:49 AM
cardiaceagle
nope...i told her i went down to a freinds place ... Nov 12 2008, 12:46 PM
KELTY360
nope...i told her i went down to a freinds place ... Nov 13 2008, 09:35 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT :lol: That could be bad I guess. Nov 12 2008, 12:50 PM
LarryR Any more progress pics? looks good. Nov 12 2008, 11:44 PM
stevesc_us
Any more progress pics? looks good.
Larry,
The... Nov 13 2008, 01:32 PM
Root_Werks I know Steve has more pics he will probably post. ... Nov 13 2008, 08:19 AM
pete-stevers Had a chance to get out to the shop today
ground d... Nov 13 2008, 07:50 PM
charliew Looks great. Did you guys use the easy grind type ... Nov 14 2008, 12:54 PM
Root_Werks
Looks great. Did you guys use the easy grind type... Nov 14 2008, 01:35 PM
PanelBilly
Put a few hours into metal work....well may more ... Nov 14 2008, 02:13 PM
pete-stevers i believe dan has the answer to the for-aft of the... Nov 14 2008, 02:52 PM
maf914 Dan,
Thanks for sharing your technique, tack at t... Nov 14 2008, 03:27 PM
PanelBilly The top of the flare is below the top of the fende... Nov 14 2008, 04:34 PM
Root_Werks Yup, the biggest thing is getting the bottom edges... Nov 14 2008, 05:08 PM
messix
Yup, the biggest thing is getting the bottom edge... Nov 14 2008, 05:12 PM
pete-stevers the bugger drank all my beer Nov 15 2008, 07:40 PM
effutuo101 And you where suprised? You need to spend more tim... Nov 15 2008, 08:02 PM
messix not me.... i'm all for the distilled libations... Nov 15 2008, 09:20 PM
pete-stevers here is a shot of the car with a bit of filler on ... Dec 13 2008, 10:24 PM
pete-stevers once i got most of the shaping done, with many gui... Dec 13 2008, 10:31 PM
effutuo101 Nice work! keep it up. Dec 14 2008, 11:36 AM
pete-stevers for all the taping and prep i could have almost pa... Dec 14 2008, 11:49 AM
Root_Werks Great job Steve! Man, from here, it looks lik... Dec 14 2008, 02:11 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT :Qarl: Looks awesome Steve :headbanger: Dec 14 2008, 02:55 PM
pete-stevers
:Qarl: Looks awesome Steve :headbanger:
thanks..... Dec 14 2008, 03:18 PM
ConeDodger Wow Steve! I love the learn as you go approach... Dec 14 2008, 04:05 PM
PanelBilly How did the underside turn out? Are you planning o... Dec 14 2008, 04:37 PM
pete-stevers i sprayed the welds with etch coat, and k201, next... Dec 14 2008, 04:52 PM
Gint Looking good Steve! Dec 14 2008, 05:57 PM
jc914 Great job Steve it look perfect Dec 14 2008, 06:10 PM
pete-stevers pardon me..the primer was a PPG k38
the primer was... Dec 15 2008, 06:43 PM
messix trust the touch of your hand and the guide coat mo... Dec 15 2008, 08:27 PM
Wes V
trust the touch of your hand and the guide coat m... Dec 16 2008, 09:27 AM
elwood-914 Great thread!! You guys make it look too e... Dec 16 2008, 11:14 AM
pete-stevers my opinions on the sanding so far...it is tough to... Dec 16 2008, 12:51 PM
scotty b
my opinions on the sanding so far...it is tough t... Jan 3 2009, 09:28 AM
sixnotfour new year :bump: Jan 2 2009, 10:47 PM
pete-stevers i am planning to do the final block with 800 wet
I... Jan 14 2009, 05:19 PM
scotty b
i am planning to do the final block with 800 wet
... Jan 14 2009, 05:43 PM
effutuo101 :agree:
for the little work I have done. Jan 14 2009, 05:52 PM
pete-stevers i have finished blocking the second layer of prime... Jan 26 2009, 08:51 PM
scotty b Hose the floor down, and if at all possible wet th... Jan 26 2009, 08:57 PM
pete-stevers Thanks scotty...i was going to do that as well.... Jan 28 2009, 12:39 PM
pete-stevers Well i got a little farther today
sprayed a layer ... Jan 30 2009, 08:09 PM
pete-stevers this is the quarater that caused the most trouble ... Jan 30 2009, 08:11 PM
pete-stevers and here is my big bad...can't even look at sc... Jan 30 2009, 08:14 PM
pete-stevers All of this would not be possible without Sher tal... Jan 30 2009, 08:16 PM
greenie Great job Pete, I can't wait to see it!
D... Jan 30 2009, 08:22 PM
pete-stevers toughest part so far is the filling,puttying and b... Jan 30 2009, 08:25 PM
greenie
toughest part so far is the filling,puttying and ... Jan 30 2009, 08:44 PM![]() ![]() |
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