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> M.S.D Box, good or bad
6freak
post Feb 5 2009, 01:50 PM
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I have one in the shop..the ? is is it worth the effort to install ,where the best place,and is it hard to do ..mind you I`m electrically challenged so be gental
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post Feb 7 2009, 07:01 AM
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Had a 6AL in my Cobra and it lasted about 3000 miles. When I mentioned it on another forum I found out how many problems there are with these things. This is why you see a lot of racecars running two MSD boxes in parallel with a toggle switch to kick a new one in when one craps out.

Having said that, if you do go ahead with the MSD, as others have said - Mount it in a cool place. Good luck.

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post Feb 7 2009, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(Cheapsnake @ Feb 7 2009, 05:01 AM) *

...This is why you see a lot of racecars running two MSD boxes in parallel with a toggle switch to kick a new one in when one craps out.


So they could crap out during a race but every team in NASCAR still runs them? Seems obvious those folks think they contribute something pretty significant to performance. Those million dollar teams would never risk failure unless there's some real return, and that's not the sponsorship money. No amount of sponsorship dollars would make up for a DNF.

I've had units crap out too, but also only after decades of use. They're especially good for engines that use a bit more oil because they've been set up loose, like race cars or aircooled cars, or because the engine has a few miles and is slightly worn, or has a great big cam. Or even just carburetors. If the car runs rich for any reason, like when you have carbs with no choke and blip the throttle to richen on warmup, or drive through big changes in altitude. Any of those scenarios and the multi spark will keep your plugs cleaner, longer times between fouling and replacement, and run better the whole time.
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post Feb 7 2009, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Feb 7 2009, 05:36 AM) *

QUOTE(Cheapsnake @ Feb 7 2009, 05:01 AM) *

...This is why you see a lot of racecars running two MSD boxes in parallel with a toggle switch to kick a new one in when one craps out.

So they could crap out during a race but every team in NASCAR still runs them? Seems obvious those folks think they contribute something pretty significant to performance. Those million dollar teams would never risk failure unless there's some real return, and that's not the sponsorship money. No amount of sponsorship dollars would make up for a DNF.


I've read that NASCAR specifies that teams run analog MSD ignition boxes and nothing else. Wouldn't want those boys running a digital ignition system now, would you? That recent NASCAR switch to unleaded gas was about enough high tech for this decade! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Okay, back to the topic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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6freak   M.S.D Box   Feb 5 2009, 01:50 PM
ConeDodger   I have one in my 914 and my 240Z. If you have it, ...   Feb 5 2009, 02:24 PM
jt914-6   I've used a MSD for years and like it. Some wi...   Feb 5 2009, 02:39 PM
6freak   I've used a MSD for years and like it. Some w...   Feb 5 2009, 03:27 PM
iamchappy   I've been using them since he 80's and hav...   Feb 5 2009, 03:34 PM
jt914-6   Mike, I had the MSD box mounted in the engine comp...   Feb 5 2009, 03:43 PM
johnnie5   Mike, I had the MSD box mounted in the engine com...   Feb 5 2009, 04:44 PM
J P Stein   I use the MSD 6 al, MDS High Vibration coil, 8.5mm...   Feb 5 2009, 05:39 PM
r_towle   I use the MSD 6 al, MDS High Vibration coil, 8.5m...   Feb 7 2009, 04:30 PM
J P Stein   Is the panel removable with something behind it?...   Feb 7 2009, 05:52 PM
6freak   Both locations seem do`able for my car.The PO ...   Feb 6 2009, 09:30 AM
ConeDodger   I used the same mounting spot as Johnnie5 in the r...   Feb 6 2009, 09:36 AM
6freak   I used the same mounting spot as Johnnie5 in the ...   Feb 6 2009, 09:44 AM
cobra94563   I had one give out.. but it was like 20+ years and...   Feb 6 2009, 10:09 AM
BKLA   Very happy with it, (but its new and only has , li...   Feb 6 2009, 10:41 AM
6freak   Very happy with it, (but its new and only has , l...   Feb 6 2009, 01:23 PM
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ConeDodger   :WTF: Oh... You didn't say it was going on a f...   Feb 7 2009, 01:11 AM
6freak   :WTF: Oh... You didn't say it was going on a ...   Feb 8 2009, 10:29 PM
Cheapsnake   Had a 6AL in my Cobra and it lasted about 3000 mil...   Feb 7 2009, 07:01 AM
DBCooper   ...This is why you see a lot of racecars running ...   Feb 7 2009, 07:36 AM
maf914   ...This is why you see a lot of racecars running...   Feb 7 2009, 08:02 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, they have to run carburetors, too. Stone ag...   Feb 7 2009, 08:34 AM
maf914   Yeah, they have to run carburetors, too. Stone a...   Feb 7 2009, 08:51 AM
DBCooper   Exactly! That's four barrels, so you...   Feb 7 2009, 09:05 AM
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