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Randal
post Mar 20 2009, 12:19 PM
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Ok seriously, you could build a 914 to compete at the nationals, but only if one would be willing to spend some serious cash, just like the competition.

To be competitive you'd need a big 6 (375-400 hp) coupled with the right transmission/gearing and tire combination. JP's two speed approach would work great.

Actually the Beast would be a good starting point, although maybe a bit heavy, but the big motor/transmission combinations are right now sitting up in Reno.

Like a 400HP-normally aspirated 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)







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post Mar 24 2009, 12:42 AM
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I think best route to SCCA Nationals Podium would be to find a national class car buy it or buy a ride. Drive every event you can.

I havent seen 914 guys including JP (The "Master" of all things AX ) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) even come close to a National Class E-mod car. It would take at least 300 HP and extensive suspension sork to make a national class e-mod 914 in my opinion. You would have to rework The Beast to be competitive in Emod. ....Great chassis and suspension just a tad heavy. Perhaps it would do well with huge HP and tons of tire. You would need setup that would allow for R25 compound Hoosier slicks. Or possibly expereiment with 13 or 14 inch setups that would allow softer Good Years.

I actually think D Prepared is probably the class where a 914-6 might just be competitive at a national level. I was thinking this would be a good class for 2.5 Boxster too.

Again AAS is the place to benchmark since national Podium placing emods show up to those events, Take a whirl in The Beast and see if youre close. I have run against the fast E mod guys and they put 3 seconds on my 914 when it had a good LSD. Just check shootout results to see how far JP's Emod was in front of my stockish suspended under 200 WHP car with a broken LSD. Either I'm a miracle driver (doubtful) or JP's car just isnt close to what a competitve Emod could do. JP tends to get puffed up when his Emod sets TTOD in a field of street cars. Unfortunately thats not real world expereince with the fast Emod cars.

It might just be me but if you are going to Nationals go to win, not for 4th place. Getting 4th in a field of 10 to 13 Emods seems lame to me. You know at least 50% field will be hacks.
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Randal   SCCA   Mar 20 2009, 12:19 PM
J P Stein   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less impor...   Mar 20 2009, 12:38 PM
Randal   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less impo...   Mar 20 2009, 04:15 PM
Randal   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less imp...   Mar 20 2009, 04:16 PM
J P Stein   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fig...   Mar 20 2009, 06:12 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 20 2009, 08:03 PM
J P Stein   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 20 2009, 08:30 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   [quote name='Phoenix 914-6GT' post='1147849'...   Mar 21 2009, 10:40 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 21 2009, 09:32 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 27 2009, 09:20 AM
grantsfo   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 27 2009, 09:35 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 27 2009, 10:21 AM
SirAndy   What was that really great compound that Goodyear...   Mar 30 2009, 03:21 PM
URY914   I think them Lotus's have got it covered prett...   Mar 20 2009, 07:10 PM
J P Stein   I think them Lotus's have got it covered pret...   Mar 20 2009, 08:11 PM
Randal   I think them Lotus's have got it covered pret...   Mar 21 2009, 10:14 AM
Joe Ricard   SO why not run upper and lower control arms up fro...   Mar 21 2009, 06:43 AM
J P Stein   SO why not run upper and lower control arms up fr...   Mar 21 2009, 08:29 AM
J P Stein   The R25 compounds are not widely available ....mor...   Mar 21 2009, 10:23 AM
J P Stein   Ran ab SCCA practice day today. It was sunny ...   Mar 21 2009, 07:23 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Ran ab SCCA practice day today. It was sunny ...   Mar 22 2009, 07:51 PM
Joe Ricard   JP that is some funny shit about "paper racin...   Mar 22 2009, 06:33 PM
Randal   JP that is some funny shit about "paper raci...   Mar 22 2009, 07:41 PM
J P Stein   OH, you want results? From 2007 ....the last time ...   Mar 22 2009, 09:06 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   JP, again, I am not saying your car is not impress...   Mar 22 2009, 10:23 PM
J P Stein   JP, again, I am not saying your car is not impres...   Mar 23 2009, 05:50 AM
Joe Ricard   Yea I almost made a kid puke once. Hell i almost...   Mar 23 2009, 03:20 PM
SirAndy   Yea I almost made a kid puke once. Hell i almos...   Mar 23 2009, 03:46 PM
J P Stein   Some years back I gave a ride to a good lookin...   Mar 23 2009, 05:18 PM
Joe Ricard   Yup that's as close as I have gotten with the...   Mar 23 2009, 05:46 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   :rotfl: I love it when that happens. Sad when the ...   Mar 23 2009, 06:38 PM
Joe Ricard   Mine drives   Mar 23 2009, 07:28 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I hope to say that someday.   Mar 23 2009, 11:05 PM
grantsfo   I think best route to SCCA Nationals Podium would ...   Mar 24 2009, 12:42 AM
grantsfo   I actually think D Prepared is probably the clas...   Mar 24 2009, 06:59 AM
Joe Ricard   You're such an idiot. 914-6 goes in FP. Th...   Mar 24 2009, 05:14 AM
grantsfo   SSM would be the place to build a monster motor ...   Mar 24 2009, 07:23 AM
J P Stein   Feeding the troll Joe?   Mar 24 2009, 06:07 AM
URY914   Feel the love...   Mar 24 2009, 06:47 AM
Joe Ricard   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Nat...   Mar 25 2009, 04:56 AM
J P Stein   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Na...   Mar 25 2009, 09:01 AM
grantsfo   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Na...   Mar 25 2009, 10:27 AM
URY914   "...Kool-aid" :DRUNK: :woohoo:   Mar 25 2009, 11:44 AM
Joe Ricard   And how it your autocrossing been going oh yee of ...   Mar 25 2009, 04:29 PM
grantsfo   I hear rumors that an E Mod Boxster is being devel...   Mar 26 2009, 01:42 PM
Joe Ricard   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056cc ...   Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM
grantsfo   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056cc...   Mar 26 2009, 03:21 PM
Randal   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056c...   Mar 30 2009, 03:04 PM
grantsfo   So how do you think a boxster could be lightene...   Mar 30 2009, 07:57 PM
Randal   So how do you think a boxster could be lighten...   Mar 30 2009, 08:56 PM
grantsfo   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at b...   Mar 31 2009, 09:13 AM
Randal   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at be...   Mar 31 2009, 09:41 AM
grantsfo   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at b...   Jul 8 2010, 03:59 PM
J P Stein   [quote name='Randal' post='1152109' date='Mar 31 ...   Jul 8 2010, 05:31 PM
J P Stein   Trollin', trollin', trollin', keep tha...   Mar 26 2009, 05:24 PM
Joe Ricard   To be a rule stretcher...... you gotta be a rule ...   Mar 26 2009, 07:27 PM
grantsfo   To be a rule stretcher...... you gotta be a rule...   Mar 27 2009, 08:59 AM
grantsfo   Yeah do it! 3.8 is what belongs in the Beast....   Mar 27 2009, 12:14 PM
Randal   JP is right about what needs to be done to be comp...   Mar 28 2009, 09:36 AM
Randal   JP is right about what needs to be done to be com...   Mar 28 2009, 09:38 AM
J P Stein   I wonder if Paul's car fits the E Mod rule...   Mar 28 2009, 09:51 AM
Joe Ricard   I stll say SSM is the best place for a 914. I gu...   Mar 29 2009, 05:34 AM
grantsfo   I stll say SSM is the best place for a 914. I g...   Mar 29 2009, 11:04 AM
J P Stein   Honestly I think FP is a viable class for a 914...   Mar 29 2009, 03:53 PM
grantsfo   You really don't get it , do you.......no n...   Mar 30 2009, 02:33 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Honestly I think FP is a viable class for a 914...   Mar 29 2009, 09:33 PM
Joe Ricard   Yep, had I known what I know now I would have join...   Mar 29 2009, 03:56 PM
J P Stein   Yep, had I known what I know now I would have joi...   Mar 29 2009, 06:58 PM
J P Stein   Well I gotta admit that winning the Nats in a Prep...   Mar 30 2009, 06:05 AM
J P Stein   At 1800 lbs, the boxster would be a couple hundred...   Mar 30 2009, 05:36 PM
drew365   At 1800 #'s the Boxster would be swiss cheese ...   Mar 30 2009, 05:55 PM
grantsfo   Here is a heavy version of what I'm thinking. ...   Mar 31 2009, 11:09 AM
Joe Ricard   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th ...   Apr 5 2009, 08:27 PM
Randal   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 5 2009, 08:58 PM
grantsfo   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 5 2009, 10:38 PM
drew365   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 6 2009, 05:02 PM
Joe Ricard   No idea why you are so in love with E-mod. A-mo...   Apr 6 2009, 09:44 AM
grantsfo   No idea why you are so in love with E-mod. A-m...   Apr 6 2009, 04:01 PM
J P Stein   WHo said I was in love with E mod? Never ran th...   Apr 6 2009, 05:59 PM
grantsfo   You're too full of yourself.....and some oth...   Apr 6 2009, 08:43 PM
Joe Ricard   My car owner and I were talking on the way home. ...   Apr 6 2009, 07:24 PM
Randal   My car owner and I were talking on the way home. ...   Apr 6 2009, 07:37 PM
Joe Ricard   60 MPH through a slalom is pretty freaking fast. ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:01 AM
Randal   60 MPH through a slalom is pretty freaking fast. ...   Apr 7 2009, 10:45 AM
grantsfo   Here you go this car is probably the closest thing...   Apr 7 2009, 01:09 PM
Joe Ricard   Grant was that your old car? it says E-Mod Ladie...   Apr 7 2009, 02:51 PM
grantsfo   Grant was that your old car? it says E-Mod Ladi...   Apr 7 2009, 03:36 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   This explains a lot :huh: :lol4:   Apr 7 2009, 11:58 PM
Randal   Ok seriously, you could build a 914 to compete at...   May 4 2009, 06:10 PM
J P Stein   The way I see it , Randal, you have good start on...   May 5 2009, 10:05 AM
Randal   The way I see it , Randal, you have good start o...   May 6 2009, 12:34 PM
grantsfo   I think the more salient point is why does it matt...   May 5 2009, 11:40 AM
jhadler   ....Yes chopped up 914's actually qualify for...   May 5 2009, 04:51 PM
grantsfo   ....Yes chopped up 914's actually qualify fo...   May 5 2009, 11:15 PM
URY914   Simple really. If it doesn't make it go, stop...   May 6 2009, 01:41 PM
J P Stein   Simple really. If it doesn't make it go, sto...   May 6 2009, 07:59 PM
grantsfo   I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say cer...   Jul 9 2010, 07:06 AM
Randal   I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say ce...   Jul 9 2010, 09:27 AM
grantsfo   By spending money, time and effort you can subst...   Jul 9 2010, 06:02 PM
Joe Ricard   I guess we will pass each other on September 8th. ...   Jul 9 2010, 07:26 AM
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