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> Thoughts on ageing, When is it time ti call it quits?
Pat Garvey
post Mar 23 2009, 07:25 PM
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I bring this thread up on this forum because it's the forum I came to originally.

We, who have owned these beasts for many years (37 in my case) must reach a point where we have to consider moving on. Not all, but I personally am having questions about this.

I bring this up here because I am a CW & will always be.

But, I have been thinking lately (six months or so) - is it time to put 2 nice cars into someone else's responsibility?

I keep buying new parts, but never get around to installing them. Hell, I don't even need them!

But, in the last year my interest is wanning. I don't have the physical capabilities to do what I used to, and I won't pay someone else to do what I KNOW how to do. I also have other interests, namely model railroading, which I've been involved in since before Porsches (do I sound like Jon Lowe?).

I also don't have the urgency to do anything on the Porsches. I just don't think I care anymore, at least not enough. Used to be, when the garage temp rose above 50, I was there. Not any more.

So, I'm asking for some opinions here. I will take all of them seriously.

Should I get out? I'm inclined to do so. Can something re-awake the fire? I wonder.

Your opinions are appreciated & welcomed. I'm on the brink.
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1970 Neun vierzehn
post Mar 27 2009, 10:38 PM
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OK, here it is, the TOUGH LOVE response.

Pat: "I want the truth!"

1970 Neun vierzehn: "You can't handle the truth". (Or can you?)

Pat, your problem is precipitated by several factors, which individually have not caused your malaise with regards to your 914 and 911, but collectively have undermined your automotive (Porsche) enthusiasm.

Let me ask, for the sake of our fellow Forum friends, some questions that even though I know full well the answers, your candid responses to will reveal reasons for your manifest disinterest and lethargic attitude toward your enthusiast cars.

1. Once upon a time, you and I would have lengthy discussions about the latest issues of R&T, Automobile, C&D, Autoweek, and PCA Panorama. What do you subscibe to now? Do you even read "Pano" anymore?

2. Since you moved to Philadelphia, what 12-13 years ago, how many miles have you put on your 914? Ten, twenty?

3. Since you moved to Philadelphia, how many PCA events, 914 World get-togethers, or special interest/collector/sports car events (Hershey, Carlisle, etc.) have you attended?

4.What (this is one of my favorite questions) are your daily drivers? Once upon a time your D/Ds were a Rabbit, a GTi, various Audis, a Scirocco, Passats. And now you drive what?

5. You claim that your body is getting too old for repair and maintenance on your Porsches. That "you need to do it yourself". Pat, think Tom Oerther, Bud West, Jerry Wolf, Howard Rapp, Dick Weiss, John Meyer, Tom Stegman. All these guys (and myself) are (or were) at least as old as you and their enthusiasm for their respective Porsches did not wane as they either got older or no longer "wrenched" on their own cars. I might also add that all the above mentioned Porsche enthusiasts drove their cars AND did not have BORING cars as daily drivers.

6.We all know (or at least a lot of us do) that you harbor a disregard for the real or imagined arrogance that PORSCHE AG has displayed in going so far upmarket with their cars. It also annoys me somewhat to see the marque that was once the provenance of hard core driving enthusiasts, road racing adherents, discreet professionals, and connoisseurs of excellent craftsmanship and (though sometimes quirky and offbeat) engineering, be hijacked by so many elite, crass and unappreciative individuals whose only interest in their PORSCHE is as a
bauble with which to flaunt their wealth and material success. You've said that you have no interest in new, and late model PORSCHES. Does it follow then that you must not, therefore, admire the marque (Cayman aside), squelch your enthusiasm, and by association, diminish your own regard for your own PORSCHES?

If you take yourself out of the loop of reinforcement with regards to a hobby, be it a car, a motorcycle, a model railroad, a bicycling passion, a guitar pursuit, a record collection, etc. and don't immerse yourself with passion and seek affirmation and support from those with whom you share your enthusiasm, your affinity and affection for that endeavor will no doubt wither. (I can't avoid the cliche here...............) Use it, or lose it!

Your dear and sincere friend,
Paul
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Pat Garvey   Thoughts on ageing   Mar 23 2009, 07:25 PM
tod914   Pat come up to the Zone 1 this year in May. Maybe...   Mar 23 2009, 08:04 PM
Pat Garvey   Pat come up to the Zone 1 this year in May. Mayb...   Mar 24 2009, 08:25 PM
dlestep   ...I believe that you are near my age...I was born...   Mar 23 2009, 08:38 PM
Pat Garvey   ...I believe that you are near my age...I was bor...   Mar 24 2009, 08:29 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   I bring this thread up on this forum because it...   Mar 23 2009, 08:40 PM
Pat Garvey   I bring this thread up on this forum because it...   Mar 24 2009, 08:34 PM
MDG   Pat, I certainly don't know you at all and yet...   Mar 23 2009, 08:57 PM
6freak   Do what makes you happy and your family happy and ...   Mar 23 2009, 09:20 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I too of course have made a lifetime commitment to...   Mar 24 2009, 09:53 AM
SirAndy   When is it time to call it quits? I'd say a w...   Mar 24 2009, 11:47 AM
Pat Garvey   When is it time to call it quits? I'd say a ...   Mar 24 2009, 08:44 PM
SirAndy   You know Andy, I don't know how to say ...   Mar 24 2009, 09:30 PM
Sarastro   Interesting. You have owned a car for 37 years an...   Mar 24 2009, 12:08 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I made a bad mistake like this when in 1987 I sold...   Mar 24 2009, 03:32 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   I made a bad mistake like this when in 1987 I sol...   Mar 24 2009, 04:34 PM
dlestep   ...I have a picture of my daughter standing in the...   Mar 24 2009, 05:17 PM
Racer   My dad has owned his "6" since 1970. He...   Mar 24 2009, 06:41 PM
Pat Garvey   I appreciate all the comments thus far - I REALLY ...   Mar 24 2009, 08:18 PM
tod914   Pat ever thought of putting the car on loan in an ...   Mar 24 2009, 09:50 PM
rjames   Ah hell. Sounds like it owns you, which I totall...   Mar 25 2009, 01:05 AM
Porsche Rescue   I too am of the age.....born 1941. I too have rece...   Mar 25 2009, 09:29 AM
carr914   Hi Pat, I've owned a lot of cars and have neve...   Mar 25 2009, 10:16 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   I have always thought it was a best to have severa...   Mar 25 2009, 02:21 PM
MrKona   Pat, It sounds like your limiting yourself to opt...   Mar 25 2009, 02:53 PM
gms   Pat, I am sorry to hear that you are feeling this ...   Mar 26 2009, 08:41 PM
PanelBilly   I think you should find someone who impresses you ...   Mar 26 2009, 10:29 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   OK, here it is, the TOUGH LOVE response. Pat: ...   Mar 27 2009, 10:38 PM
Pat Garvey   OK, here it is, the TOUGH LOVE response. Pat: ...   Mar 28 2009, 06:59 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   [quote name='1970 Neun vierzehn' post='1150952' d...   Mar 29 2009, 08:29 AM
Thomas J Bliznik   Sorry, Pat. I just screwed you out of 10 inches...   Mar 29 2009, 08:35 AM
scotty b   Lost the passion? Maybe it's time for a change...   Mar 29 2009, 09:42 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ M...   Mar 29 2009, 12:58 PM
Pat Garvey   B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOT...   Mar 29 2009, 06:53 PM
Pat Garvey   You'd lose your enthusiasm too, Scotty, if ...   Mar 31 2009, 07:13 PM
tod914   If this don't restore you passion, nothing wil...   Mar 29 2009, 11:29 AM
914runnow   I keep buying new parts, but never get around to i...   Mar 29 2009, 12:36 PM
Pat Garvey   I keep buying new parts, but never get around to ...   Mar 29 2009, 07:09 PM
scotty b   I can't imagine what it must be like to drive ...   Mar 29 2009, 01:45 PM
Pat Garvey   B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE...   Mar 29 2009, 06:53 PM
auerbach   Pat, change your focus and take a break. I'm...   Mar 29 2009, 10:16 PM
Pat Garvey   Ok, I've taken in all the pros & cons of e...   Mar 30 2009, 06:57 PM
PH1   Your opinions are appreciated & welcomed. I...   Mar 31 2009, 09:28 PM
Pat Garvey   Your opinions are appreciated & welcomed. ...   Apr 1 2009, 06:33 PM
PH1   Kelvin, First, thank you for joining us! Se...   Apr 10 2009, 11:12 PM
Pat Garvey   Kelvin, First, thank you for joining us! S...   Apr 11 2009, 06:47 PM
jd74914   Maybe your outlook will change when the you drive ...   Apr 1 2009, 07:37 PM
Pat Garvey   Maybe your outlook will change when the you drive...   Jul 14 2009, 07:42 PM
tod914   Sounds like it's time to let it go then Pa...   Apr 1 2009, 09:04 PM
914   Pat, Can we see a shot of the 914,911 ? Ive ...   Apr 2 2009, 08:40 AM
Pat Garvey   Pat, Can we see a shot of the 914,911 ? Ive...   Apr 3 2009, 06:02 PM
dcheek   Pat, This thread has kept me up way past my bedt...   Apr 7 2009, 09:32 PM
Pat Garvey   Pat, This thread has kept me up way past my bed...   Apr 8 2009, 07:06 PM
PanelBilly   "I need at least 2 months to get it right. ...   Jul 12 2009, 04:48 PM
tod914   Nudge nudge Pat, now you have two people bugging y...   Apr 7 2009, 09:50 PM
tod914   Pat here you go. http://zone1.pca.org/Zone%201%20...   Apr 8 2009, 07:27 PM
dcheek   Hey Pat, Hopefully the temps will get in the 90...   Apr 9 2009, 03:47 PM
Pat Garvey   Hey Pat, Hopefully the temps will get in the 90...   Apr 9 2009, 08:54 PM
dcheek   Pat, PM me the particulars on your 911. I might ha...   Apr 10 2009, 05:45 AM
Pat Garvey   Pat, PM me the particulars on your 911. I might h...   Apr 10 2009, 04:49 PM
dcheek   Thanks Pat. I look forward to getting the informa...   Apr 10 2009, 05:57 PM
dcheek   Pat, Of course I would much rather have you keep t...   Apr 10 2009, 06:00 PM
ConeDodger   If you struggle with apathy, you should know - reg...   Jul 11 2009, 10:58 AM
ghuff   My advice, being a young old 27 is to look at your...   Jul 14 2009, 04:42 PM
Pat Garvey   My advice, being a young old 27 is to look at you...   Jul 14 2009, 08:09 PM
ghuff   My advice, being a young old 27 is to look at yo...   Jul 14 2009, 08:24 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Pat Garvey' post='1191664' date='Jul...   Jul 14 2009, 08:37 PM
JazonJJordan   :popcorn: Question: It has sat too long and too...   Jul 19 2009, 09:19 PM
PH1   :popcorn: Soution: Personal work ethic aside~ P...   Jul 20 2009, 02:23 PM
Mark Henry   Found this thread and I hear ya. Ageing? it su...   Jul 20 2009, 04:54 PM
Pat Garvey   To all of you. Not giving up just yet, or at all....   Aug 11 2009, 08:16 PM
ghuff   To all of you. Not giving up just yet, or at all...   Aug 11 2009, 08:23 PM
J P Stein   I awoke this morning and can't walk in a strai...   Aug 12 2009, 08:11 AM
Pat Garvey   I awoke this morning and can't walk in a stra...   Aug 12 2009, 07:33 PM
ghuff   I awoke this morning and can't walk in a stra...   Aug 12 2009, 11:30 PM
Pat Garvey   I awoke this morning and can't walk in a str...   Aug 15 2009, 08:56 PM
dlestep   ...I'm in my garage, an arm length away from m...   Aug 12 2009, 09:55 PM
ghuff   ...I'm in my garage, an arm length away from ...   Aug 12 2009, 11:07 PM
J P Stein   OK, so it wasn't an inner ear problem, a strok...   Aug 13 2009, 01:11 PM
ghuff   OK, so it wasn't an inner ear problem, a stro...   Aug 13 2009, 05:49 PM
messix   as we get older that song "strokin" gets...   Aug 13 2009, 03:24 PM
dcheek   Pat, I think you're beginning to come around; ...   Aug 20 2009, 07:59 PM
Pat Garvey   Pat, I think you're beginning to come around;...   Aug 21 2009, 07:59 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   Pat, I think you're beginning to come around...   Aug 21 2009, 08:52 PM
Geezer914   I am 61, and just finished building a Cobra replic...   Aug 22 2009, 12:49 PM
SGB   Yeah. Like he said. Gotta keep ahead of the bogg...   Sep 7 2009, 10:28 PM
396   Ageing sucks big time.. I 'used too' lift ...   Sep 7 2009, 11:36 PM


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