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Randal
post Mar 20 2009, 12:19 PM
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Ok seriously, you could build a 914 to compete at the nationals, but only if one would be willing to spend some serious cash, just like the competition.

To be competitive you'd need a big 6 (375-400 hp) coupled with the right transmission/gearing and tire combination. JP's two speed approach would work great.

Actually the Beast would be a good starting point, although maybe a bit heavy, but the big motor/transmission combinations are right now sitting up in Reno.

Like a 400HP-normally aspirated 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)







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Joe Ricard
post Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM
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Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules.

2056cc ????? really you have no clue.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 26 2009, 01:41 PM) *

Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules.

2056cc ????? really you have no clue.

Yeah????? Never said anything about 2056cc or a 2.5 boxster being in E mod? I just was comparing platforms with similar power to weight as a comment?

E-mod rules allow up to 3200cc's. Perfect for a Boxster S motor powered car - Which rumor has as the E-mod car in question - Have Jake do his magic on the 3.2 and I bet it would put out over 300 HP - then strip that sucker down to under 2000 lbs (which would be quite easy). I suspect you could get a boxster down to 1800 lbs if you worked hard at it.

We are likely to see a Boxster E mod at Nationals before a 914. But its nice to know we have a few "rules experts" like you here. LOL!

For me I'm satisfied with going to local SCCA, UFO, PCA events in my little underpowered OSP Boxster and occasionally beating big bad Cobras and being beaten by very well driven Miatas. No delusions about podium placing at nationals for me. I'll leave that to you and JP.

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post Mar 30 2009, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Mar 26 2009, 01:21 PM) *

QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 26 2009, 01:41 PM) *

Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules.

2056cc ????? really you have no clue.

I suspect you could get a boxster down to 1800 lbs if you worked hard at it.





So how do you think a boxster could be lightened to 1800lbs? Please be specific.

Thks.
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So how do you think a boxster could be lightened to 1800lbs? Please be specific.

Thks.


Glad you asked because I have been thinking about this! Strip car down to chassis - remove undercoating, pull all that uneccesary and heavy skirting from underneath the car, pull fender liners and structures that hold rear bumper on. Remove rear bumper and all structures that hold it to the car. Replace fenders, doors, front bumper, hood and trunk with CF. Gut entire interior and put lightweight aluminum dash in the car. Lop off the front windshield, remove the rear convertible top cover (damn that thing is heavy!). Remove all heat shielding, sound insulation, useless electric blower motors and crap from engine comparment. Replace the stock fuel tank with a small fuel cell. Remove all radiator ducting, motors and fans. Pull windshield wipers, motors etc, pull heater core ducting etc.

Use 16 inch Jongblode wheels with Hoosier race slicks (Thats easily a 50 to 60 lb weight savings over what specs use). Lightweight headers straight to lightweight mufflers. Pull headlights out. Build a lightweight AX cage - Boxster chassis doesnt need nearly the reinforcing the 914 does. Put either aluminum body PSS10's, Motons, ect on the car. Cut out front and rear crash structures - they dont serve any function on an AX car. Install lightweight flywheel and clutch assembly ( thats a huge savings too) Use aluminum brake hats, use a single CF race seat.

Spec cars dont even come close to getting all weight out and some are below 2400 lbs!

It would look something like this but with all CF panels doors, no windsheild and a much less beefy cage.

(IMG:http://www.boxsterspec.com/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-133-1233641444_thumb.jpg)

Honestly I dont think you would have to swiss cheese the car to get there. You would just have to be motivated to have a AX only car.

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Randal   SCCA   Mar 20 2009, 12:19 PM
J P Stein   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less impor...   Mar 20 2009, 12:38 PM
Randal   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less impo...   Mar 20 2009, 04:15 PM
Randal   IMO, you reach a point where HP becomes less imp...   Mar 20 2009, 04:16 PM
J P Stein   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fig...   Mar 20 2009, 06:12 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 20 2009, 08:03 PM
J P Stein   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 20 2009, 08:30 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   [quote name='Phoenix 914-6GT' post='1147849'...   Mar 21 2009, 10:40 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 21 2009, 09:32 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could fi...   Mar 27 2009, 09:20 AM
grantsfo   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 27 2009, 09:35 AM
Randal   R25s in Hoosier. Believe me, Iff'n I could f...   Mar 27 2009, 10:21 AM
SirAndy   What was that really great compound that Goodyear...   Mar 30 2009, 03:21 PM
URY914   I think them Lotus's have got it covered prett...   Mar 20 2009, 07:10 PM
J P Stein   I think them Lotus's have got it covered pret...   Mar 20 2009, 08:11 PM
Randal   I think them Lotus's have got it covered pret...   Mar 21 2009, 10:14 AM
Joe Ricard   SO why not run upper and lower control arms up fro...   Mar 21 2009, 06:43 AM
J P Stein   SO why not run upper and lower control arms up fr...   Mar 21 2009, 08:29 AM
J P Stein   The R25 compounds are not widely available ....mor...   Mar 21 2009, 10:23 AM
J P Stein   Ran ab SCCA practice day today. It was sunny ...   Mar 21 2009, 07:23 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Ran ab SCCA practice day today. It was sunny ...   Mar 22 2009, 07:51 PM
Joe Ricard   JP that is some funny shit about "paper racin...   Mar 22 2009, 06:33 PM
Randal   JP that is some funny shit about "paper raci...   Mar 22 2009, 07:41 PM
J P Stein   OH, you want results? From 2007 ....the last time ...   Mar 22 2009, 09:06 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   JP, again, I am not saying your car is not impress...   Mar 22 2009, 10:23 PM
J P Stein   JP, again, I am not saying your car is not impres...   Mar 23 2009, 05:50 AM
Joe Ricard   Yea I almost made a kid puke once. Hell i almost...   Mar 23 2009, 03:20 PM
SirAndy   Yea I almost made a kid puke once. Hell i almos...   Mar 23 2009, 03:46 PM
J P Stein   Some years back I gave a ride to a good lookin...   Mar 23 2009, 05:18 PM
Joe Ricard   Yup that's as close as I have gotten with the...   Mar 23 2009, 05:46 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   :rotfl: I love it when that happens. Sad when the ...   Mar 23 2009, 06:38 PM
Joe Ricard   Mine drives   Mar 23 2009, 07:28 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I hope to say that someday.   Mar 23 2009, 11:05 PM
grantsfo   I think best route to SCCA Nationals Podium would ...   Mar 24 2009, 12:42 AM
grantsfo   I actually think D Prepared is probably the clas...   Mar 24 2009, 06:59 AM
Joe Ricard   You're such an idiot. 914-6 goes in FP. Th...   Mar 24 2009, 05:14 AM
grantsfo   SSM would be the place to build a monster motor ...   Mar 24 2009, 07:23 AM
J P Stein   Feeding the troll Joe?   Mar 24 2009, 06:07 AM
URY914   Feel the love...   Mar 24 2009, 06:47 AM
Joe Ricard   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Nat...   Mar 25 2009, 04:56 AM
J P Stein   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Na...   Mar 25 2009, 09:01 AM
grantsfo   Well as a matter of fact I am going to Houston Na...   Mar 25 2009, 10:27 AM
URY914   "...Kool-aid" :DRUNK: :woohoo:   Mar 25 2009, 11:44 AM
Joe Ricard   And how it your autocrossing been going oh yee of ...   Mar 25 2009, 04:29 PM
grantsfo   I hear rumors that an E Mod Boxster is being devel...   Mar 26 2009, 01:42 PM
Joe Ricard   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056cc ...   Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM
grantsfo   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056cc...   Mar 26 2009, 03:21 PM
Randal   Have you looked at E-Modified SCCA rules. 2056c...   Mar 30 2009, 03:04 PM
grantsfo   So how do you think a boxster could be lightene...   Mar 30 2009, 07:57 PM
Randal   So how do you think a boxster could be lighten...   Mar 30 2009, 08:56 PM
grantsfo   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at b...   Mar 31 2009, 09:13 AM
Randal   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at be...   Mar 31 2009, 09:41 AM
grantsfo   Nothing new here Grant, sorry. Maybe 2100 at b...   Jul 8 2010, 03:59 PM
J P Stein   [quote name='Randal' post='1152109' date='Mar 31 ...   Jul 8 2010, 05:31 PM
J P Stein   Trollin', trollin', trollin', keep tha...   Mar 26 2009, 05:24 PM
Joe Ricard   To be a rule stretcher...... you gotta be a rule ...   Mar 26 2009, 07:27 PM
grantsfo   To be a rule stretcher...... you gotta be a rule...   Mar 27 2009, 08:59 AM
grantsfo   Yeah do it! 3.8 is what belongs in the Beast....   Mar 27 2009, 12:14 PM
Randal   JP is right about what needs to be done to be comp...   Mar 28 2009, 09:36 AM
Randal   JP is right about what needs to be done to be com...   Mar 28 2009, 09:38 AM
J P Stein   I wonder if Paul's car fits the E Mod rule...   Mar 28 2009, 09:51 AM
Joe Ricard   I stll say SSM is the best place for a 914. I gu...   Mar 29 2009, 05:34 AM
grantsfo   I stll say SSM is the best place for a 914. I g...   Mar 29 2009, 11:04 AM
J P Stein   Honestly I think FP is a viable class for a 914...   Mar 29 2009, 03:53 PM
grantsfo   You really don't get it , do you.......no n...   Mar 30 2009, 02:33 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Honestly I think FP is a viable class for a 914...   Mar 29 2009, 09:33 PM
Joe Ricard   Yep, had I known what I know now I would have join...   Mar 29 2009, 03:56 PM
J P Stein   Yep, had I known what I know now I would have joi...   Mar 29 2009, 06:58 PM
J P Stein   Well I gotta admit that winning the Nats in a Prep...   Mar 30 2009, 06:05 AM
J P Stein   At 1800 lbs, the boxster would be a couple hundred...   Mar 30 2009, 05:36 PM
drew365   At 1800 #'s the Boxster would be swiss cheese ...   Mar 30 2009, 05:55 PM
grantsfo   Here is a heavy version of what I'm thinking. ...   Mar 31 2009, 11:09 AM
Joe Ricard   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th ...   Apr 5 2009, 08:27 PM
Randal   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 5 2009, 08:58 PM
grantsfo   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 5 2009, 10:38 PM
drew365   Well that was fun. As you can see I managed a 5th...   Apr 6 2009, 05:02 PM
Joe Ricard   No idea why you are so in love with E-mod. A-mo...   Apr 6 2009, 09:44 AM
grantsfo   No idea why you are so in love with E-mod. A-m...   Apr 6 2009, 04:01 PM
J P Stein   WHo said I was in love with E mod? Never ran th...   Apr 6 2009, 05:59 PM
grantsfo   You're too full of yourself.....and some oth...   Apr 6 2009, 08:43 PM
Joe Ricard   My car owner and I were talking on the way home. ...   Apr 6 2009, 07:24 PM
Randal   My car owner and I were talking on the way home. ...   Apr 6 2009, 07:37 PM
Joe Ricard   60 MPH through a slalom is pretty freaking fast. ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:01 AM
Randal   60 MPH through a slalom is pretty freaking fast. ...   Apr 7 2009, 10:45 AM
grantsfo   Here you go this car is probably the closest thing...   Apr 7 2009, 01:09 PM
Joe Ricard   Grant was that your old car? it says E-Mod Ladie...   Apr 7 2009, 02:51 PM
grantsfo   Grant was that your old car? it says E-Mod Ladi...   Apr 7 2009, 03:36 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   This explains a lot :huh: :lol4:   Apr 7 2009, 11:58 PM
Randal   Ok seriously, you could build a 914 to compete at...   May 4 2009, 06:10 PM
J P Stein   The way I see it , Randal, you have good start on...   May 5 2009, 10:05 AM
Randal   The way I see it , Randal, you have good start o...   May 6 2009, 12:34 PM
grantsfo   I think the more salient point is why does it matt...   May 5 2009, 11:40 AM
jhadler   ....Yes chopped up 914's actually qualify for...   May 5 2009, 04:51 PM
grantsfo   ....Yes chopped up 914's actually qualify fo...   May 5 2009, 11:15 PM
URY914   Simple really. If it doesn't make it go, stop...   May 6 2009, 01:41 PM
J P Stein   Simple really. If it doesn't make it go, sto...   May 6 2009, 07:59 PM
grantsfo   I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say cer...   Jul 9 2010, 07:06 AM
Randal   I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say ce...   Jul 9 2010, 09:27 AM
grantsfo   By spending money, time and effort you can subst...   Jul 9 2010, 06:02 PM
Joe Ricard   I guess we will pass each other on September 8th. ...   Jul 9 2010, 07:26 AM
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