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> Subie swap thought?, cooling options
evangojason
post Apr 7 2009, 12:37 AM
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been looking on the site and cleaning up the floor in my 75 914 that will some day
be water cooled and a question poped into my head. why run the water lines in the center tunnel? Couldnt I use the space currently occupied by the air tubes? Has this been done? I searched and everyone with a radiator up front runs them down the center. There would be no use for the air tubes. Just a thought.
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post Apr 7 2009, 10:22 AM
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Aluminum will cool faster than iron but horsepower is what makes the heat. Also the turbo motor only makes the big hp numbers while it's on boost which is not even 30% on the street. On the track it's different. Also the torque applied to the chassis is less because the suby doesn't make v8 torque down low when you are taking off so the stress is way different. A electric motor with it's immediate torque is the most destructive power to a driveline in normal use.
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QUOTE(charliew @ Apr 7 2009, 12:22 PM) *

Aluminum will cool faster than iron but horsepower is what makes the heat. Also the turbo motor only makes the big hp numbers while it's on boost which is not even 30% on the street. On the track it's different. Also the torque applied to the chassis is less because the suby doesn't make v8 torque down low when you are taking off so the stress is way different. A electric motor with it's immediate torque is the most destructive power to a driveline in normal use.


Well put! What I was trying to say is that some of the V8 stuff could be overkill, but like you said, horsepower makes heat and the suby definately has potential to make horsepower. The suby may not break trannys like the V8 does, but building a tranny the same way you would for a V8 could be done. The gear ratios that might be used for a V8 make sense for a suby too. Running 1800RPM on the highway sounds nice for any motor.

I like the idea of running the cooling lines through the longs sounds like the way to go. But initially, under the car might make more sense. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the type to take shortcuts. But, in my mind there is a line between doing it right with the lines in the tunnels and the car on jack stands for an extra 6 months or longer. Versus running the lines under the car until you get around to doing a restore or installing an Engman kit.
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evangojason   Subie swap thought?   Apr 7 2009, 12:37 AM
dlo914   We don't suggest running the water lines in th...   Apr 7 2009, 01:40 AM
evangojason   We don't suggest running the water lines in t...   Apr 7 2009, 01:49 AM
evangojason   well did the search for his name and nothing but t...   Apr 7 2009, 02:35 AM
pktzygt   well did the search for his name and nothing but ...   Apr 7 2009, 10:02 AM
DBCooper   Rod Simpson popularized the V8 swap what, twenty-f...   Apr 7 2009, 04:33 AM
Zaney   Here is Scott's (Amenson) PorSti Thread PorSt...   Apr 7 2009, 08:55 AM
charliew   If you are going to use the suby tranny you will p...   Apr 7 2009, 09:30 AM
charliew   Aluminum will cool faster than iron but horsepower...   Apr 7 2009, 10:22 AM
pktzygt   Aluminum will cool faster than iron but horsepowe...   Apr 7 2009, 10:54 AM
charliew   The only thing I don't particularly like about...   Apr 7 2009, 11:06 AM
cobra94563   1 inch lines - same as if rubber hose was used. ...   Apr 8 2009, 01:59 PM
cobra94563   Hi, I have a V8 conversion and ran the lines thru ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:46 PM
charliew   Hi, I have a V8 conversion and ran the lines thru...   Apr 8 2009, 12:49 AM
evangojason   Once again alot of good ideas and thoughts to cons...   Apr 7 2009, 09:19 PM
pktzygt   I see alot of guys running a piece of wood between...   Apr 8 2009, 02:47 PM
evangojason   yeah, ive seen that but most of it was when on a r...   Apr 8 2009, 03:12 PM
d914   no flames please , but I still keep looking at the...   Apr 8 2009, 03:35 PM
plymouth37   I wouldn't recommend running the hoses through...   Apr 8 2009, 03:45 PM
pktzygt   I thought the PorSTi thread was on to something, b...   Apr 8 2009, 06:15 PM
charliew   He is also using 1.750 and 1.50 id lines I think. ...   Apr 8 2009, 08:26 PM
PanelBilly   If your going to change the car that much, why not...   Apr 8 2009, 09:08 PM
charliew   The most pressure on the car is in the front. It w...   Apr 8 2009, 09:19 PM


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