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> Engine bay fuel line clamps, what type
1970 Neun vierzehn
post Feb 6 2007, 12:13 PM
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In the refurbishing of the engine bay, I began wondering about the clamps on the fuel lines. The originals, as I recall, were what I call "tension" clamps, sort of "spring loaded" by virue of their shape. I have something similar on my old motorcycle fuel petcock. What they have been replaced with over the years are the typical screwdriver-tightened "hose clamp". The P+A dealer sez the hose clamp is definitely better as they can be "tightened" and don't loose "tension" like the OEM do/did. I don't ever remember the originals getting "weak", as I remember it, they were a nuisance to get off in the first place because they were both so tight, and awkward to access to release the tension they held on the hose.

I'm assuming that the old syle clamps can still be gotten somewhere.

I know what's original here, I'm wondering what's better.
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post Apr 7 2009, 09:57 PM
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Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recommendations for repair facilities.

I typically do my own work, mainly because I don't trust any VW dealership's mechanics any further than I can throw them ... they destroyed my wife's 1999 Beetle before it hit 34k miles.


Except for the injector elbows, all the engine bay's top-side hoses on my wife's 71 appear to have been replaced with 'ribbed' rubber hoses. I'm currently replacing what appear to be the original cloth-covered fuel tank and pump hoses, and installing a new tank screen.


As for a VW dealership providing service for a recall that long ago ... all I can say is good luck. They could probably do it, but I'll bet they'll charge you up the arse.

I'm sure someone from the OC area will pop in and recommend some independent repair shops that can do the job for a reasonable price if you don't plan to do it yourself.

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QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 7 2009, 08:57 PM) *

Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recommendations for repair facilities.

I typically do my own work, mainly because I don't trust any VW dealership's mechanics any further than I can throw them ... they destroyed my wife's 1999 Beetle before it hit 34k miles.


Except for the injector elbows, all the engine bay's top-side hoses on my wife's 71 appear to have been replaced with 'ribbed' rubber hoses. I'm currently replacing what appear to be the original cloth-covered fuel tank and pump hoses, and installing a new tank screen.


As for a VW dealership providing service for a recall that long ago ... all I can say is good luck. They could probably do it, but I'll bet they'll charge you up the arse.

I'm sure someone from the OC area will pop in and recommend some independent repair shops that can do the job for a reasonable price if you don't plan to do it yourself.


Thanx anyway Ron.

FYI - earlier in this thread someone else had tried to get the Porsche dealership (not VW) in their area to this 914 fuel lines/battery recall for FREE as an ongoing Federal/DOT requirement for any 914 never done.

I was hoping to save some coin by having the dealer do that portion of mine, then I'll have my "regular" mechanic Hans at Hans Imports - who was P-Factory trained on 914s back in the `70s (as well as VW's) - check the dealers work when they change out the other fuel lines not covered.

I could probably do it myself, but am not sure how much I want to tackle on my own with everything else to get this long term storage recovery & body work, & if I did - then I'd have them check my work too.

They've worked on my 914 since I got it in 12/75, & he checked it out & several others before I bought this one. They also have done my 88 Westfalia since new too & all my other cars, and they are a VERY well reputed independent. They do what needs to be done right & stand behind their work, & don't do add-ons to pump up the invoice!

I can highly recommend them if you're ever in need & are anywhere close to Huntington Beach: Hans Imports - 714/960-9000 & 714/536-4000 - ask for Carl or Hans & tell them Tom T. referred you.

Anyway, I'll need to check further on that freebie campaign idea, in order to hopefully offset or reduce some of the significant total costs of getting my `73 2L running again after 24 years stored in my garage!

Best!
Tom
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Apr 7 2009, 09:32 PM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 7 2009, 08:57 PM) *

Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recommendations for repair facilities.

I typically do my own work, mainly because I don't trust any VW dealership's mechanics any further than I can throw them ... they destroyed my wife's 1999 Beetle before it hit 34k miles.


Except for the injector elbows, all the engine bay's top-side hoses on my wife's 71 appear to have been replaced with 'ribbed' rubber hoses. I'm currently replacing what appear to be the original cloth-covered fuel tank and pump hoses, and installing a new tank screen.


As for a VW dealership providing service for a recall that long ago ... all I can say is good luck. They could probably do it, but I'll bet they'll charge you up the arse.

I'm sure someone from the OC area will pop in and recommend some independent repair shops that can do the job for a reasonable price if you don't plan to do it yourself.


Thanx anyway Ron.

FYI - earlier in this thread someone else had tried to get the Porsche dealership (not VW) in their area to this 914 fuel lines/battery recall for FREE as an ongoing Federal/DOT requirement for any 914 never done.

I was hoping to save some coin by having the dealer do that portion of mine, then I'll have my "regular" mechanic Hans at Hans Imports - who was P-Factory trained on 914s back in the `70s (as well as VW's) - check the dealers work when they change out the other fuel lines not covered.

I could probably do it myself, but am not sure how much I want to tackle on my own with everything else to get this long term storage recovery & body work, & if I did - then I'd have them check my work too.

They've worked on my 914 since I got it in 12/75, & he checked it out & several others before I bought this one. They also have done my 88 Westfalia since new too & all my other cars, and they are a VERY well reputed independent. They do what needs to be done right & stand behind their work, & don't do add-ons to pump up the invoice!

I can highly recommend them if you're ever in need & are anywhere close to Huntington Beach: Hans Imports - 714/960-9000 & 714/536-4000 - ask for Carl or Hans & tell them Tom T. referred you.

Anyway, I'll need to check further on that freebie campaign idea, in order to hopefully offset or reduce some of the significant total costs of getting my `73 2L running again after 24 years stored in my garage!

Best!
Tom


OK - I've partially answered my own question on this recall campaign, by asking at Porsche Cars of North America (1-800-PORSCHE & Option #3), after I was referred there by the gal doing my COA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

As I suspected - they're obligated under Federal Law & DOT Regs. to do it - no matter at what point (talk about open-ended liability!?).

They will still do the Fuel Lines & Battery Cover/Pad Recall Campaign at your local Dealership, & the dealer can contact them &/or the Porsche Warranty Dept. there for the parts, which are supposedly still available.

If you call the number above & provide your VIN, they'll check their records, and if it's never been done on your 914 - then you're IN! They'll assign a case number for your car, and assist with getting it done, if you meet resistance at the dealer.

I cannot yet say whether it will get done, nor if it will be good workmanship. Most of the mechanics at dealers weren't even born (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) when the 914s were built - let alone work much on them!

So - I'll wait & see..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Let me know if anyone else has had any success? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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1970 Neun vierzehn   Engine bay fuel line clamps   Feb 6 2007, 12:13 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   In the refurbishing of the engine bay, I began wo...   Feb 6 2007, 01:16 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='1970 Neun vierzehn' post='859579' da...   Feb 6 2007, 08:54 PM
Bleyseng   You can get the proper FI fuel line clamps anywher...   Feb 7 2007, 11:38 AM
Pat Garvey   You can get the proper FI fuel line clamps anywhe...   Feb 11 2007, 08:27 PM
Porsche Rescue   Geoff, my 80K mile '76 still has the original ...   Feb 7 2007, 01:37 PM
Bleyseng   If its still original seals and the nonrecall fi h...   Feb 7 2007, 02:25 PM
Porsche Rescue   Thanks. The other lines in the engine compartment ...   Feb 7 2007, 03:08 PM
Bleyseng   use these http://www.gates.com/europe/brochure.cfm...   Feb 11 2007, 09:55 PM
Pat Garvey   use these http://www.gates.com/europe/brochure.cf...   Feb 12 2007, 07:06 PM
9146986   AFAIK the recall is still active, and if the car h...   Feb 13 2007, 10:59 AM
Bleyseng   Yes, those clamps style fuel line clamps can be so...   Feb 13 2007, 11:36 AM
Pat Garvey   Yes, those clamps style fuel line clamps can be s...   Feb 13 2007, 07:27 PM
914Rookie   This may be wishful thinking... but how long is a ...   Feb 14 2007, 10:50 AM
Pat Garvey   This may be wishful thinking... but how long is a...   Feb 14 2007, 08:42 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   The recall is still active for all 914's that...   Feb 15 2007, 11:29 AM
Bleyseng   OEM style for $.69 each http://www.busdepot.c...   Feb 14 2007, 10:57 AM
MrKona   OEM style for $.69 each [url=http://www.busd...   Feb 14 2007, 07:31 PM
jk76.914   OEM style for $.69 each [url=http://www.bus...   Feb 22 2007, 08:41 PM
MrKona   OEM style for $.69 each [url=http://www.bus...   Mar 2 2007, 10:47 PM
Porsche Rescue   Here you go Pat   Mar 10 2007, 08:14 PM
Bleyseng   mine didn't have the HO sticker nor did it hav...   Feb 15 2007, 11:37 AM
914Rookie   Jeff, not Geoff, (but thank Geoff also !) Tha...   Feb 15 2007, 05:16 PM
914Rookie   UP-DATE... Just got off the phone with the local ...   Feb 22 2007, 01:15 PM
Bleyseng   UP-DATE... Just got off the phone with the local...   Feb 22 2007, 10:03 PM
Bleyseng   I ordered a set too and I am still waiting for em.   Mar 3 2007, 09:15 AM
Pat Garvey   I ordered a set too and I am still waiting for em...   Mar 3 2007, 07:12 PM
Bleyseng   You can use short pieces of rubber fuel line but i...   Mar 4 2007, 10:36 AM
Pat Garvey   You can use short pieces of rubber fuel line but ...   Mar 5 2007, 08:52 PM
Bleyseng   I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em. You w...   Mar 5 2007, 09:25 PM
Pat Garvey   I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em. You ...   Mar 6 2007, 08:20 PM
MrKona   I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em. You...   Mar 6 2007, 10:16 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Pat Garvey' post='871667' date='Mar ...   Mar 7 2007, 08:13 PM
Bleyseng   :angry: mine haven't shown up yet.   Mar 6 2007, 11:28 PM
Bleyseng   So again Pat, why do they have tobe fabric covered...   Mar 7 2007, 09:17 PM
Pat Garvey   So again Pat, why do they have tobe fabric covere...   Mar 8 2007, 06:34 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   I think Pat is trying to make a 1972 914 "tim...   Mar 8 2007, 10:07 AM
Pat Garvey   I think Pat is trying to make a 1972 914 "ti...   Mar 8 2007, 06:44 PM
jk76.914   Pat, how are you reproducing that crimp-on clamp t...   Mar 8 2007, 11:37 AM
Bleyseng   you can get those crimp clamps if you want to be ...   Mar 8 2007, 01:06 PM
jk76.914   you can get those crimp clamps if you want to be ...   Mar 8 2007, 02:34 PM
Bleyseng   Thats only at the injector supplied by Bosch. The ...   Mar 8 2007, 05:23 PM
jk76.914   Oh. I get it. I'm still wondering how Pat is...   Mar 8 2007, 05:44 PM
Bleyseng   I knock off a few points "if" I were jud...   Mar 8 2007, 10:04 PM
Pat Garvey   I knock off a few points "if" I were ju...   Mar 9 2007, 09:24 PM
Bleyseng   Here are the OEM fabric injectors for a 2.0L and a...   Mar 9 2007, 09:29 PM
Pat Garvey   Here are the OEM fabric injectors for a 2.0L and ...   Mar 10 2007, 08:07 PM
jk76.914   Here are the OEM fabric injectors for a 2.0L and...   Mar 10 2007, 09:47 PM
Porsche Rescue   Back to an earlier unanswered question: How do you...   Mar 9 2007, 10:29 PM
davesprinkle   Back to an earlier unanswered question: How do yo...   Apr 6 2009, 05:20 PM
Bleyseng   you can't that I know of. There is a way to d...   Mar 10 2007, 02:29 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Just to throw a philosophical wrench into the work...   Nov 3 2007, 01:49 PM
Pat Garvey   Just to throw a philosophical wrench into the wor...   Nov 3 2007, 08:49 PM
Pat Garvey   Just to throw a philosophical wrench into the wo...   Apr 7 2009, 06:53 PM
AvalonFal   Anybody else use these BMW hoses on a 914 FI? Do t...   Dec 7 2007, 11:12 AM
slackin' at work   Anybody else use these BMW hoses on a 914 FI? Do ...   Dec 8 2007, 07:40 AM
John Jentz   Another wrench, if originality is of importance, h...   Dec 8 2007, 10:55 AM
euro911   The economic pinch has set in ... the BMW elbows h...   May 23 2008, 11:11 PM
Tom_T   The economic pinch has set in ... the BMW elbows ...   Apr 6 2009, 02:36 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='euro911' post='1036130' date='May 23...   Apr 7 2009, 08:37 PM
euro911   The clamps on the injectors in our '71 looked ...   Apr 6 2009, 09:24 PM
euro911   Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recomm...   Apr 7 2009, 09:57 PM
Tom_T   Sorry Tom, I can't provide you with any recom...   Apr 7 2009, 10:32 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='euro911' post='1155406' date='Apr 7 ...   Apr 16 2009, 03:37 AM


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