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J P Stein
post Mar 30 2003, 08:22 AM
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Clear skies, a running car and AUTOCROSS !!

I'm going to go play, now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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post Mar 31 2003, 07:08 AM
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Hey JP,

The end that you tighten (either by swaybar or springrate) is the end that's gonna loose grip.
The end that you soften is the end that gets more grip...
(so if you want more grip in the rear, either tighten the front, or loosen the rear. And vice versa)

Since you got the rear tire temps way hotter on the inside, I'd suggest you lower the rear pressure first

One of the pics shows you lifting the inner front wheel, but that you're still having quite a bit of bodyroll at the same time.
That would make me think you have too much swaybar for the t-bars you're running (= get bigger t-bars in front)

I'll post some pics on of the orange car we took out last weekend when I get back home tonight.
It had nearly no body roll (22mm front t's and 250 rear springs and a big 31mm front swaybar set to full soft)

I was pretty amazed how "comfy" the orange car still was. It was definatly not oversprung or bouncing all over the place.

Where did you suffer from oversteer? On corner entry or corner exit?

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J P Stein   Finally   Mar 30 2003, 08:22 AM
Jeroen   cool!!! let us know how things went c...   Mar 30 2003, 08:51 AM
Sammy   Where the hell is JP with the details? They only ...   Mar 30 2003, 04:21 PM
ChrisReale   Im a little bummed I bitched out and didnt make th...   Mar 30 2003, 04:38 PM
J P Stein   Well, the car is faster. My co driver was a tenth...   Mar 30 2003, 05:29 PM
Bruce Allert   I'm downloading them thar pics now :D I rode ...   Mar 30 2003, 08:16 PM
Porsche Rescue   I was there too but don't tell anybody. I...   Mar 30 2003, 10:14 PM
Bruce Allert   Jim, send me your email address and I'll send ...   Mar 30 2003, 10:26 PM
J P Stein   Bruce took some great shots....after retrieving hi...   Mar 30 2003, 11:09 PM
Brad Roberts   GREAT shot. I love when people enjoy there 914 on...   Mar 30 2003, 11:21 PM
rick 918-S   :headbanger: OMG! That's coool. I love whe...   Mar 30 2003, 11:23 PM
Rob Ways   Nice pict. Looks like a good time! :shoot2ki...   Mar 30 2003, 11:28 PM
J P Stein   Bruce was nice enuff not to get any of my more lur...   Mar 30 2003, 11:34 PM
Brad Roberts   Way too much body roll. Give the suspension low d...   Mar 30 2003, 11:53 PM
Bruce Allert   Geeze man! any stiffer springs & JP will need ...   Mar 31 2003, 12:00 AM
Brad Roberts   Bruce, I'm actually semi pissed at JP for al...   Mar 31 2003, 12:05 AM
J P Stein   21 mm front t bars, 180 lb rear springs, 2lb digit...   Mar 31 2003, 12:29 AM
Brad Roberts   Where did you have the bar set ?? Your forgiven (...   Mar 31 2003, 12:34 AM
J P Stein   ERRR....I was running the grid. :wacko: he,he I ...   Mar 31 2003, 12:39 AM
Brad Roberts   You have to tighten the front to make the rear sti...   Mar 31 2003, 12:48 AM
Dave Cawdrey   DANG !! My new desktop pic B) Guess I ...   Mar 31 2003, 12:49 AM
J P Stein   Korijo it was sunny :shades: & 71 deg....you screw...   Mar 31 2003, 01:25 AM
Brad Roberts   Tighten the front: Stiffen the bar or: install la...   Mar 31 2003, 01:31 AM
Brad Roberts   Oh.. conventional wisdom is: Tighten the opposit...   Mar 31 2003, 01:33 AM
J P Stein   Just the Bilstein "clips". The car is dead nuts e...   Mar 31 2003, 01:46 AM
Brad Roberts   Are you on the lowest clip setting for the rear Bi...   Mar 31 2003, 02:06 AM
J P Stein   Various things I have read over the years (includi...   Mar 31 2003, 03:13 AM
Brad Roberts   Your contradicting yourself: "soften the front sw...   Mar 31 2003, 03:30 AM
J P Stein   That's you're not "your", damnit. To keep...   Mar 31 2003, 03:49 AM
Brad Roberts   Sounds like a great day. You have nothing to lose ...   Mar 31 2003, 03:52 AM
Racer Chris   :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :shoot2kill: ...   Mar 31 2003, 06:09 AM
Jeroen   Hey JP, The end that you tighten (either by swayb...   Mar 31 2003, 07:08 AM
Bruce Allert  
  Mar 31 2003, 12:47 PM
J P Stein   <...   Mar 31 2003, 06:23 PM
Brad Roberts   Jim, Don is correct. You can dial in some underst...   Mar 31 2003, 06:25 PM
Brad Roberts   Jim, I need to go over what Don said: "When car i...   Mar 31 2003, 06:36 PM
Dave_Darling   <...   Mar 31 2003, 06:38 PM
r_towle   I would vote to lower the rear suspension a little...   Mar 31 2003, 06:41 PM
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Bleyseng   I want it just to not f-ing rain at the autox so I...   Apr 1 2003, 09:27 AM
Jeroen   For rain settings, you could try to thighten the f...   Apr 1 2003, 09:44 AM
Dave_Darling   Shocks will only help in the very-very short term....   Apr 1 2003, 03:34 PM
Porsche Rescue   I'm bettin' JP will too, it'll just ta...   Apr 1 2003, 05:10 PM


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