On Topic: it's illegal to wash my 914, you guys will get a kick out of this... Options

[nebreitling]

i just recieved a "warning" from the university (i live in uni-owned grad housing) because i was caught... get this.... WASHING MY CAR. well, SHIT....

Apparently, it is now ILLEGAL to wash your own car in Palo Alto, under the assumption that trace amounts of oil and heavy metals will be carried into drains and gutters, and on into the bay. Palo Alto Sewer Ordinance 16.09.106

i bet i'm the only stanford phd who came in a liberal, and will come out a conservative.

[ArtechnikA]

Allright - I have one for you gun-advocates - I want your opinions on this - it's just something I have been thinking about recently.

I believe a lot of the same rationales for gun ownership also holds true for illegal drugs.

If people can own drugs freely then usage goes down (as experienced in Holland) and when there is legal usage, it is safer since it can be regulated - and taxed.

You also completely abolish the drug trade - which means no dealers, no pot users sitting jails, no drug mules dieing because the condom full of dope ruptured, etc etc.

yes - and this goes for most victimless 'crimes'.

it is the extreme of the Libertarian philosophy. there will be people who will abuse decriminalised drugs - just as there are people who abuse the drugs that are currently legal, taxed, and just as dangerous.

the stigma and fear of prosecution of 'illegal' or unlawful use keeps many people from seeking treatment.

the thing about liberty is: you've either got it, or you don't. but i don't confuse liberty with anarchy, for one of the reasons you brought up - there is a role for government in providing infrastructure, such as a transportation systems, and a food & drug administration...