Factory Radios - Fact or Fiction?, Was a topic about radio face plates, buuut.... Options

[Lavanaut]

Edit: This thread started out with my question below but quickly changed to a debate about whether or not any 914s ever came from the factory with radios. Lots of cool pics at least! But since I have a vested interest in my original question I'm going to take it elsewhere and let this thread continue down the path of the "radios debate". Even gave it a new title to draw more members with interest in that topic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Ok so this post probably belongs in the originality forum but I need to figure this out asap and answers come slooooooow over there...so, sorry Pat.

My /6 came from the factory with a Frankfurt. The radio that's in there now (Sapphire, see below), while period correct, doesn't match the COA so I'm going to replace it while I tackle the dash replacement. The plate around the Sapphire is a plastic, attached piece and after doing some searching here and elsewhere I'm pretty sure it's actually part of the stereo and not part of the car.

So my question is ~ what's gonna be correct? Judging from pics I've dug up and and based on my '74, I'm guessing it's just that little metal plate/surround piece covered in basketweave material. Can anyone here speak to this?

thanks!

Reid

(sorry for blurry pic)

[Lavanaut]

every option, that had a "M-Oprion Code" was installed by the factory

other additional equipment (like ski racks, snow chains, suit case set, ...) that had order codes like 914.801.901.00 (that's the ski rack) was not factory installed
when you picked up your 914 at the factory then they gave it to you,
when you picked up your 914 at the dealer then it was "dealer installed" (if possible)

of course there was the possibility, that a dealer beefed up a new 914 with a dealer installed radio (for example when the customer wanted another radio than possible from the factory), but there was also the possibility that the car came with a factory installed radio, which is shown on the COA

a dealer installed radio is NEVER on a COA

Thanks for that Wolfgang. I feel there is sufficient evidence to support the notion that some cars did in fact come from the factory with a stereo. And actually, I have yet to see any evidence that this isn't true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

For what it's worth, both the original window sticker and 15 year old COA for my 1970 914-6 show the Frankfurt radio.

Let's bring this back around to the original topic ~ what surrounds the Frankfurt in your six? Is it a plastic plate, or is it basketweave vinyl over (presumably) steel?

Thanks!

[SirAndy]

And actually, I have yet to see any evidence that this isn't true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Show me one car with a nice, clean antenna hole and not one that looks like it was hacked into the fender by a 3 year old.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy

[Lavanaut]

Show me one car with a nice, clean antenna hole and not one that looks like it was hacked into the fender by a 3 year old.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy

That's the "evidence" that has you convinced that these other documents/resources are incorrect? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[SirAndy]

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Just show me one ...

[Lavanaut]

Just show me one ...

If that's enough for you to draw your conclusions from Andy, right on. Me, I'm inclined to believe the other empirical evidence to the contrary that we've seen here. Let's agree to let the other rational folks out there do the same. Thanks for your input though, I'll definitely pay closer attention to the antennae hole in the future!

Back to this radio plate question. Hopefully there will be some examples posted for reference.

Plastic? Vinyl on steel? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[SirAndy]

I'll definitely pay closer attention to the antennae hole in the future!

What antenna hole????

Oh, look at all those factory 914s leaving the Karmann lot. Without an antenna. Or a hole to mount one.


Yes, i can see you did a lot of "research" on the subject ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy

PS: I have a whole stash of images from the factory assembly line as well as factory showcars. Not one car has an antenna or a hole to mount one.