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> 2.7 CIS to Carbs - how much HP loss?
Scott S
post Jul 2 2009, 03:15 PM
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Hi All -
Got a line on a rebuilt 2.7 out of a 1977 911S. It is 100% complete including the full CIS system. What kind of power loss would I experience if I stripped off the CIS and went with carbs? The motor is only 165hp to begin with...

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post Jul 4 2009, 04:14 PM
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This is a good discussion....

I have carbs. I like them, but have thought about something different for Huey and relatively daily street use.
I'd like to stay away from CIS - heard too many horror stories
Not big on MFI just because again, it seems a bit more tempermental
So what's the deal with EFI? what are the choices, costs, peoples experiences, etc?

Not something that's happening anytime soon, but just for info...
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QUOTE(naro914 @ Jul 4 2009, 03:14 PM) *

This is a good discussion....

I have carbs. I like them, but have thought about something different for Huey and relatively daily street use.
I'd like to stay away from CIS - heard too many horror stories
Not big on MFI just because again, it seems a bit more tempermental
So what's the deal with EFI? what are the choices, costs, peoples experiences, etc?

Not something that's happening anytime soon, but just for info...


If I hit the lotto......

Jeff Gamroth has an EFI set-up that produces an astounding amount of HP & torque.

http://rothsport-racing.com/

Our latest Parade AX winner has this set up on his car, a 2.8L, and makes 285 HP and is tuned for autocross. G Fordahl told me that they gained 30ft/lbs of torque across the range but only 10 HP....they bumped it back for more torque.
How about an all stock internal 3.0L @ 250 hp.....the EFI & exhaust are the only changes...the motors are blueprinted, of course.

Around 8k installed & dynoed, I understand.
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Scott Schroeder   2.7 CIS to Carbs - how much HP loss?   Jul 2 2009, 03:15 PM
brant   Scott, I heard about that motor seemed like a re...   Jul 2 2009, 03:20 PM
Cupomeat   I cannot support the following with empirical evid...   Jul 2 2009, 03:21 PM
turboman808   From what I have seen on graphs you get peaks and ...   Jul 2 2009, 03:46 PM
carr914   I would think that you would H.P. & Torque wit...   Jul 2 2009, 04:43 PM
9146986   Why not just keep the CIS?   Jul 2 2009, 10:11 PM
pcar916   When I bought my car it had a 2.7L motor built up ...   Jul 2 2009, 11:13 PM
GeorgeRud   If you don't have it, I would get Bruce Anders...   Jul 2 2009, 11:29 PM
ahdoman   If the CIS is intact and working stick with it. Yo...   Jul 3 2009, 12:10 AM
carr914   When I bought my car it had a 2.7L motor built up...   Jul 3 2009, 06:15 AM
pcar916   [quote name='pcar916' post='1188039' date='Jul 3 ...   Jul 3 2009, 07:45 AM
Project 6   Wayne at Pelican claims to have installed a CIS mo...   Jul 3 2009, 07:50 AM
J P Stein   I know a few folks that run Webers on an otherwise...   Jul 3 2009, 08:51 AM
Gint   I'd probably just use the CIS. But if you buy...   Jul 3 2009, 08:53 AM
scotty   I know a few folks that run Webers on an otherwis...   Jul 3 2009, 10:28 AM
naro914   I have a 2.7 in Huey at the moment, with Webers. I...   Jul 4 2009, 10:56 AM
Mountain914   Just want to throw this out there - since the titl...   Jul 4 2009, 11:44 AM
J P Stein   Just want to throw this out there - since the tit...   Jul 4 2009, 01:38 PM
ArtechnikA   A good illustration of the possibilities of the 2...   Jul 4 2009, 02:02 PM
J P Stein   A good illustration of the possibilities of the ...   Jul 4 2009, 04:02 PM
ArtechnikA   Yeah,yeah, some folks go all gaga over the MFI se...   Jul 4 2009, 05:31 PM
naro914   This is a good discussion.... I have carbs. I lik...   Jul 4 2009, 04:14 PM
J P Stein   This is a good discussion.... I have carbs. I li...   Jul 4 2009, 07:12 PM
9146986   As long as the carbs are optimized for the engine,...   Jul 5 2009, 11:18 AM


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