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> Any Info on this Ebay Motor builder schantzmd, Good or Bad for the $$$$ Reliability?
Ga Dan
post Jul 21 2009, 02:40 AM
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I am trying to see if anyone may know this engine builder schantzmd. If you know of this builder, how does this engine compare to the Raby 2270 engines? Dont get me wrong, I would love a Raby turnkey 2270 or maybe a kit, but both are out of my reach when all is said and done. With this being a turnkey and everything set up to run would this be a decent engine and reliable? Just not as much power as Jakes Massive type 4s. I could except less power if I could get a turnkey like this if it is reliable and still has more than stock (stated in the ad - built for 150Hp)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=370201454753
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:26 AM
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Jake no one is "against" you and NO ONE has disparaged your ability to build engines. Re-read this entire thread, it NEVER HAPPENED. But not everyone has $12,000 to spend on a turnkey engine to put into his $3000 (or whatever) car, so people NEED to discuss the alternatives. We don't have an option, we HAVE to have these discussions, and it's just not helpful for you to jump in and tell us that if we buy from anyone but you our engines will grenade and everything will be lost.

Look Jake, you may be very very good (no one here has ever said differently) but you aren't the only engine builder out there. There have been a hundred thousand of these cars out on the road over the last forty years, and who knows how many on race tracks. When they were rebuilt almost every one of them was done, for better and for worse, by a builder other than you. We need to be able to say those other builder's names out loud and then talk about them, both good and bad, without being told to STFU. Really. Please.

To preempt the usual "You bully! Don't hurt Jake!" reactions I'd like to point out (once again) that I have never ever said one bad word about Jake's engines.

So can we now get this thread back on track? It's not about Jake, it's about the e-bay engine. The question was does anyone know this guy, have any direct experience with him? If so please speak up. If you don't have any direct experience then there's no need to post, and certainly the best advice given here was from Rich, just give him a call.
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post Jul 23 2009, 11:51 AM
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Look Jake, you may be very very good (no one here has ever said differently) but you aren't the only engine builder out there. There have been a hundred thousand of these cars out on the road over the last forty years, and who knows how many on race tracks. When they were rebuilt almost every one of them was done, for better and for worse, by a builder other than you. We need to be able to say those other builder's names out loud and then talk about them, both good and bad, without being told to STFU. Really. Please.



How dare you talk about other type IV engines. You KNOW they don't work! Time and time again we see people who try to get their engines built elsewhere, and the money ends up getting spent in the end anyways.

Remember if you can't afford one of jakes engines you shouldn't be driving a Porsche. This is the volkswagen mentality I keep seeing everywhere, and I'm sick of it. If you want inexpensive parts you don't deserve a 914!
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Ga Dan   Any Info on this Ebay Motor builder schantzmd   Jul 21 2009, 02:40 AM
johannes   If I had 5000$ to spend on a turnkey engine, ...   Jul 21 2009, 04:43 AM
gopack   :agree: This engine will have well known and docu...   Jul 21 2009, 06:00 AM
Gint   I would probably do the same. And that's al...   Jul 21 2009, 08:49 AM
Jake Raby   The parts to comprise one of my MassIVe engines co...   Jul 21 2009, 09:00 AM
Smitty911   Well at least he gave you an Honorable Mention in ...   Jul 21 2009, 09:59 AM
ConeDodger   +1 for McMark's $5000 2056 builds. Mark i...   Jul 21 2009, 10:35 AM
DBCooper   I don't think this forum should be used by ven...   Jul 21 2009, 10:53 AM
ConeDodger   I don't think this forum should be used by ve...   Jul 21 2009, 11:35 AM
DBCooper   I don't think this forum should be used by v...   Jul 21 2009, 04:35 PM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='1193643' date='Jul...   Jul 21 2009, 05:31 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='1193643' date='Jul...   Jul 21 2009, 05:50 PM
SirAndy   Jake didn't just bash the seller either... He...   Jul 21 2009, 10:08 PM
r_towle   The most obvious problem with his engine program ...   Jul 21 2009, 11:15 PM
ConeDodger   The most obvious problem with his engine program...   Jul 21 2009, 11:57 PM
Jake Raby   It wasn't anything more than stating the obvio...   Jul 21 2009, 11:08 AM
Cupomeat   Well, the way I look at it, I can add one more BS ...   Jul 21 2009, 11:19 AM
Jake Raby   Thanks for that observation Dr. Sime :-)   Jul 21 2009, 11:40 AM
ConeDodger   Thanks for that observation Dr. Sime :-) Scho...   Jul 21 2009, 11:48 AM
914Owner   Jake, do you still sell a (mostly) stock 2.0 with ...   Jul 24 2009, 12:14 AM
ConeDodger   Jake, do you still sell a (mostly) stock 2.0 with...   Jul 24 2009, 01:00 AM
Jake Raby   Jake, do you still sell a (mostly) stock 2.0 with...   Jul 24 2009, 05:53 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Jake, thanks for pointing all that out. Good stuff...   Jul 21 2009, 12:40 PM
ghuff   5000$ random ebay engine bought on internet p...   Jul 21 2009, 01:04 PM
ericread   I am truly disappointed to find that Jake does not...   Jul 21 2009, 01:26 PM
Jake Raby   I am truly disappointed to find that Jake does no...   Jul 21 2009, 01:39 PM
ghuff   I find this criticism of Jake Raby funny..... I ha...   Jul 21 2009, 05:35 PM
rdauenhauer   Heres one that IS turn key and has some pedigree :...   Jul 21 2009, 05:57 PM
ConeDodger   Heres one that IS turn key and has some pedigree ...   Jul 21 2009, 07:28 PM
JOE M   I wish I could buy a new engine!!!...   Jul 21 2009, 06:15 PM
raw1298   Almost everything I have gotten concerning a 914 o...   Jul 21 2009, 06:51 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   Almost everything I have gotten concerning a 914 ...   Jul 21 2009, 07:00 PM
ghuff   Almost everything I have gotten concerning a 914 ...   Jul 21 2009, 07:17 PM
Jake Raby   Yes.. I am cocky, self centered and over bearing.....   Jul 21 2009, 07:55 PM
rtalich   I'll never understand why some people dislike ...   Jul 21 2009, 09:07 PM
type2man   Why would anyone consider buying something from e...   Jul 21 2009, 09:59 PM
type2man   Jake didn't just bash the seller either... ...   Jul 21 2009, 10:19 PM
RJMII   hey Rich; Where did you price the AA 'Hypert...   Jul 22 2009, 12:00 AM
Chris Hamilton   hey Rich; Where did you price the AA 'Hyper...   Jul 22 2009, 01:11 AM
RJMII   That was his reasoning for the second auction b...   Jul 22 2009, 12:04 AM
ConeDodger   That was his reasoning for the second auction ...   Jul 22 2009, 01:02 AM
RJMII   okay, found it. thanks!   Jul 22 2009, 01:09 AM
Ga Dan   Well I didn’t want my post to take this turn, my...   Jul 22 2009, 02:13 AM
Jake Raby   I'll not forget those statements. Its not a...   Jul 22 2009, 11:15 AM
r_towle   I'll not forget those statements. OK, bu...   Jul 22 2009, 09:50 PM
Jake Raby   I'll not forget those statements. OK, b...   Jul 23 2009, 06:36 AM
r_towle   Jake, if you knew me personally, you would not tak...   Jul 23 2009, 08:21 AM
McMark   Only two opinions I'll register: 1. I've ...   Jul 23 2009, 12:00 AM
Chris Hamilton   What filters do you use if you'd never use a F...   Jul 23 2009, 02:04 AM
McMark   What filters do you use if you'd never use a ...   Jul 23 2009, 09:45 AM
tomeric914   [quote name='Chris Hamilton' post='1194387' date=...   Jul 23 2009, 03:31 PM
9146986   I thought the 009 would be a dead giveaway, as it...   Jul 23 2009, 07:34 AM
DBCooper   Jake no one is "against" you and NO ONE ...   Jul 23 2009, 09:26 AM
Chris Hamilton   Look Jake, you may be very very good (no one her...   Jul 23 2009, 11:51 AM
Chris Hamilton   Sarcasm aside, that engine looks like the guy who ...   Jul 23 2009, 12:18 PM
grantsfo   Ask yourself this question are you willing to pay ...   Jul 23 2009, 12:18 PM
Chris Hamilton   Ask yourself this question are you willing to pay...   Jul 23 2009, 02:27 PM
MDG   This very well could be the latter situation, but...   Jul 23 2009, 02:54 PM
Chris Hamilton   What I see in this thread is the common consensus...   Jul 23 2009, 03:41 PM
jmill   I judge a person or company by what it does rather...   Jul 23 2009, 12:56 PM
MDG   An engine builder/supplier that actually steps up...   Jul 23 2009, 02:13 PM
Jake Raby   Rich, I don't have many feelings that can be h...   Jul 23 2009, 03:58 PM
grantsfo   I dont see any vendor slander here just good frank...   Jul 23 2009, 04:14 PM
Chris Hamilton   Jake, that's the kind of reply I respect. Hel...   Jul 23 2009, 04:15 PM
type2man   Page 1 had the member vendor mocking the seller wi...   Jul 23 2009, 08:00 PM
Jake Raby   Actually our sales are right where they were in ...   Jul 23 2009, 08:20 PM
RJMII   I make lots of posts here while I am waiting on ...   Jul 23 2009, 09:37 PM
Jake Raby   Is the glass half full or is it half empty?? Neith...   Jul 23 2009, 09:39 PM
RJMII   Is the glass half full or is it half empty?? Neit...   Jul 23 2009, 09:56 PM
grantsfo   I'm sure that now that Jake is into M96 platfo...   Jul 23 2009, 09:44 PM
RJMII   Come to thnk of it, if I had the amount of the BIN...   Jul 23 2009, 10:14 PM
MDG   I'm partial to the 5 beer glass . . . .   Jul 23 2009, 10:18 PM
SLITS   I have reason to believe I met the person. My sho...   Jul 23 2009, 10:18 PM
DBCooper   I have reason to believe I met the person. My sh...   Jul 23 2009, 10:42 PM
jmill   That reminds me of this analogy of taking a jar,...   Jul 23 2009, 10:21 PM
ws91420   A search of the sellers username shows he posted o...   Jul 23 2009, 10:42 PM
Dr Evil   A search of the sellers username shows he posted ...   Jul 24 2009, 01:15 AM


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