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lmcchesney
post Feb 9 2004, 09:31 AM
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I have reviewed all the messages from the foum regarding cryogenic processing of engine parts. However, it lacks good/significant documentation regarding the different processes done.
Does anyone know the source of technical articles regarding this process.
There must be some University site with this information.
Yes, I have searched the MIT site without success.
Anyone have the information?
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L. McChesney
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Jake Raby
post Feb 10 2004, 01:55 PM
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I am INDEPENDANT!

Want to see how??
When my parts are cryoed it means that they need the parts for atleast 1.5 weeks to do their processes..

That affects turnaround time on the entire engine. It als means that I have to do all the work, and mock up/balance the assembly before they pick up the parts for the service. It also means that I have to inventory all the stuff and box it all up for transport.

The standard cryo process for an entire engine cost me 475.00 it cost my customer 500.00 as an inclusion in the process of the build. So for 25.00 I spend all the time to have the parts processed, pack them up and go through those hassles.

I have to for instance buy valve seats, send them out for the process and then have the seats sent back to the head shop for installation since the entire head should not be treated when it is assembled (expansion issues between aluminum and seat material)

I easily LOSE money on the process, and maybe break even. What it does do is give my engines another edge over the rest and keeps my reputation wher its at and has been. Thats more important than a 10 million dollar check!

I have NEVER seen a failure using cryoed parts with the guys that do my work.... I can say that I have seen a broken (cracked 3/4 way through the center main)crankshaft purposely installed into bus engine and driven 10K and it never broke... (don't ask why)

Please don't imply that something does not work until you experience it yourself. It takes risks to find out what works and what don't I take those risks with my test engines and have yet to see a problem with any cryo process. I doubted the cryo process just as much as many of you do here, BUT I can say it has proven its self to me and many others that have been able to directly compare the results we have seen with it against parts that were not treated.

My lab is called a dyno cell.... I'm not a metallurgist and don't care how/why it works.. I just know that I like the results and use the process.
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lmcchesney   Cryogenic Technical Articles   Feb 9 2004, 09:31 AM
kdfoust   It wouldn't surprise me if the legitimately de...   Feb 9 2004, 10:22 AM
kdfoust   Wear "Chilled Out" of Stamping Dies & Punches Cr...   Feb 9 2004, 11:08 AM
Mark Henry   My first reaction to cryo was "snake oil". But hea...   Feb 9 2004, 12:17 PM
Jake Raby   One day I was in my ocal Barber shop... My regular...   Feb 9 2004, 01:10 PM
ArtechnikA   it's pretty well thought of in the rifle barre...   Feb 9 2004, 01:17 PM
airsix   Cryo treatment is common as part of the heat-treat...   Feb 9 2004, 01:27 PM
airsix   Rich, Your comments about gun barrel stress are in...   Feb 9 2004, 01:38 PM
kdfoust   To me the discussion is not around "the whether" o...   Feb 9 2004, 01:41 PM
lmcchesney   The concept is intriging but the lack of data is w...   Feb 9 2004, 01:51 PM
Jake Raby   I talked to my cryo guy- he'll be here later..   Feb 9 2004, 06:32 PM
Targa   I plan on incorperating this process into my engin...   Feb 9 2004, 07:06 PM
Dave_Darling   So far, the evidence that I have seen is all anecd...   Feb 9 2004, 07:24 PM
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airsix   Dave, You might like reading some of the info Cruc...   Feb 10 2004, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby   I am INDEPENDANT! Want to see how?? When my p...   Feb 10 2004, 01:55 PM
ArtechnikA     Feb 10 2004, 03:33 PM
Jake Raby   FYI, Right now I'm making a special fixture th...   Feb 10 2004, 04:12 PM
tat2dphreak     Feb 10 2004, 04:17 PM
Targa   Try the Excelsior nano-web coated strings. they ar...   Feb 10 2004, 04:54 PM
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Jake Raby   TI valves won't last 2000 miles in a street ap...   Feb 11 2004, 09:50 PM
Brett W   The 2004 GSXR 600 from Suzuki comes with titanium ...   Feb 12 2004, 04:31 PM


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