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| kenshapiro2002 |
 Aug 20 2009, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,444 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region  |
So, in my continuing fuel starvation saga (another thread), I'm almost ready to rebuild the webers. Rode her hard again yesterday, and she ran pretty nicely for awhile and eventually started to starve very hard at really hard throttle. Took a very good look in the tank, and the walls look pristine, but in the circular baffle area where the sock is, there were many very tiny pieces of black crud, and the sock, though very hard to see well, looked pretty dark too.
Opinions? Also, I'm thinking that since my fuel filter was pretty clean, that the sock might be my real problem...should take care of that before making the carbs clean and possibly getting more crap in them. If I do pull the tank and replace the sock, shouldn't I replace the fuel line back to the engine? Any threads on that? Can I just hook a new line up to the old and pull it through? Thanks in advance, Ken |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Aug 25 2009, 01:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,444 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have 12 volts at the ignition side of the (brand new blue Bosch) coil. The points are opening on the cams. Although I'm still a rookie it looks like it has to be either the points or condensor at this point. What else could it be at this point? If it won't even shudder with starting fluid, and has new plugs, wires, & coil...is getting 12 v at the coil and the accelerator pumps are pumping...
What else could have deteriorated and gone away as I was driving her yesterday? |
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| neil30076 |
Aug 25 2009, 02:35 PM
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Recovering dismantler! Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: 12-September 06 From: San Diego ( RB) CA Member No.: 6,826 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Aug 25 2009, 12:35 PM)  I have 12 volts at the ignition side of the (brand new blue Bosch) coil. The points are opening on the cams. Although I'm still a rookie it looks like it has to be either the points or condensor at this point. What else could it be at this point? If it won't even shudder with starting fluid, and has new plugs, wires, & coil...is getting 12 v at the coil and the accelerator pumps are pumping... What else could have deteriorated and gone away as I was driving her yesterday? Take a spare plug, remove one of the plug wires from the engine and hook up the spare plug. Make sure the body of the plug is well grounded to the engine, use copper wire to tie it down to something if needed. crank the car and watch the plug for a spark - let us know what you see, or don't! OR if you have a timing light hook it and and crank the engine, does it flash? |
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kenshapiro2002 Fuel Tank Crud? Redoing Fuel Lines, Etc. Aug 20 2009, 08:55 AM
jmill
Explain this "starvation" you have. Do... Aug 20 2009, 12:45 PM
kenshapiro2002 Sorry...didn't see the other post you made on ... Aug 20 2009, 02:44 PM
kenshapiro2002 Main= 115
AC Jet = 200
ET = F11
Looked at all pie... Aug 20 2009, 03:09 PM Cevan Don't bother cleaning the sock. If you go thr... Aug 20 2009, 12:48 PM 9146986 Find a radiator shop that will clean and seal your... Aug 20 2009, 12:49 PM jmill Sounds like your on the right track. If the tank ... Aug 20 2009, 03:08 PM kenshapiro2002 I have to believe the carbs are set up correctly a... Aug 20 2009, 03:14 PM jmill Main jet seems small to me. I'd run a 1.25. Aug 20 2009, 03:19 PM kenshapiro2002 Educate me on that. It's a 1.7 with a 1911 big... Aug 20 2009, 03:25 PM silverteener I had a fuel starvation problem. Finally looked i... Aug 20 2009, 04:08 PM kenshapiro2002 What did your tank look like? Like I said...mine l... Aug 20 2009, 04:20 PM jmill
Educate me on that. It's a 1.7 with a 1911 bi... Aug 20 2009, 05:21 PM kenshapiro2002 Here's a shot I just took of my sock and surro... Aug 20 2009, 05:27 PM kenshapiro2002 I'll do the test later, but since she's fi... Aug 20 2009, 05:30 PM Racer Chris
I personally think you have a combination of fuel... Aug 21 2009, 08:53 AM kenshapiro2002 Just ordered the 125 mains. I'm going to do on... Aug 21 2009, 10:11 AM kenshapiro2002 Alright...went out to do the "test". I i... Aug 20 2009, 06:16 PM jmill Transition issues. What size idle jet? Check you... Aug 20 2009, 06:49 PM kenshapiro2002 I'll check the idle jets in awhile and post i... Aug 20 2009, 07:15 PM kenshapiro2002 Idle jet is a 50.
I'll check the idle jets ... Aug 20 2009, 08:38 PM cwpeden I also had stavation and stalling, mind you it was... Aug 20 2009, 07:31 PM jmill Changing the sock and fuel line is a good idea. I... Aug 20 2009, 07:33 PM kenshapiro2002 I accept that the larger jet would be a good move,... Aug 20 2009, 08:46 PM kenshapiro2002 Is it sufficient information to order "125 ma... Aug 20 2009, 08:48 PM silverteener my tank was way worse than that. You never know t... Aug 20 2009, 07:36 PM jmill
I accept that the larger jet would be a good move... Aug 20 2009, 09:41 PM kenshapiro2002 I'll have to listen to those pops and crackles... Aug 20 2009, 09:50 PM kenshapiro2002 OK...checked the accelerator pumps and they are al... Aug 21 2009, 04:35 PM jmill Pull off the air cleaners, look down the carb and ... Aug 20 2009, 09:55 PM kenshapiro2002 Tomorrow...thanks.
Pull off the air cleaners, loo... Aug 20 2009, 10:14 PM jmill I'm glad you got it figured out. With the add... Aug 21 2009, 05:23 PM kenshapiro2002 I REALLY appreciate everybody's help, but espe... Aug 21 2009, 05:25 PM kenshapiro2002 UPDATE...I just drove her for the first time since... Aug 23 2009, 11:45 AM jmill Your on target. I would opt for inadequate fuel s... Aug 23 2009, 10:25 PM kenshapiro2002 Thanks...got my list of work.
Your on target. I... Aug 23 2009, 10:26 PM kenshapiro2002 So...the accelerator pump test went well. I change... Aug 24 2009, 06:44 PM jmill The clicky pumps slow down and get quiet when they... Aug 24 2009, 10:02 PM kenshapiro2002 No idea how to assess whether there's 12v to t... Aug 24 2009, 10:10 PM jmill Take a multimeter and check for 12V on the hot wir... Aug 24 2009, 10:15 PM kenshapiro2002 Heading out to the garage.
Take a multimeter and... Aug 24 2009, 10:23 PM kenshapiro2002 Well...either I'm getting nothing or don't... Aug 24 2009, 10:40 PM jmill On the older meters you only need the batteries fo... Aug 24 2009, 11:09 PM kenshapiro2002 Thanks again.
On the older meters you only need... Aug 24 2009, 11:13 PM silverteener Change the sock :D you never know! It looks ... Aug 24 2009, 11:27 PM kenshapiro2002 With my limited knowledge I still believe it's... Aug 25 2009, 08:42 AM jmill Your car should at least turn over and try to star... Aug 25 2009, 10:10 AM kenshapiro2002 It does not even try to start...no sputter, cough,... Aug 25 2009, 10:30 AM neil30076
It does not even try to start...no sputter, cough... Aug 25 2009, 10:33 AM kenshapiro2002 Lemme go get some and try. It revs higher when I a... Aug 25 2009, 10:43 AM kenshapiro2002 Starter fluid did bupkiss, so it must be electrica... Aug 25 2009, 11:05 AM jmill You need to check for voltage at the coil. Use a ... Aug 25 2009, 11:49 AM kenshapiro2002 Going out to do that now...got the meter working n... Aug 25 2009, 12:55 PM kenshapiro2002 Used a timing light...nothing.
I have 12 volts ... Aug 25 2009, 02:58 PM neil30076
Used a timing light...nothing.
Take a spare pl... Aug 25 2009, 03:11 PM kenshapiro2002 On test #3...is the "center spark plug wire... Aug 25 2009, 06:57 PM jmill With 12V to the coil and not even a stumble on one... Aug 25 2009, 03:01 PM neil30076
With 12V to the coil and not even a stumble on on... Aug 25 2009, 03:14 PM kenshapiro2002 Yes...I have a rotorin there. Is it touching the c... Aug 25 2009, 05:49 PM neil30076
Yes...I have a rotorin there. Is it touching the ... Aug 25 2009, 05:51 PM jmill Right now I'd just look at the simple stuff. ... Aug 25 2009, 06:25 PM neil30076
Right now I'd just look at the simple stuff. ... Aug 25 2009, 06:39 PM kenshapiro2002 In helping me to uderstand you totally caused my h... Aug 25 2009, 06:51 PM neil30076 [quote name='kenshapiro2002' date='Aug... Aug 25 2009, 06:59 PM kenshapiro2002 Now I understanf what the "1" and ... Aug 25 2009, 07:10 PM neil30076
Now I understanf what the "1" and ... Aug 25 2009, 07:23 PM rjames This might be lame suggestion, but make sure that ... Aug 25 2009, 07:01 PM kenshapiro2002 Thought you might be right for a minute there, but... Aug 25 2009, 07:13 PM jmill I didn't want to confuse the guy with ohms law... Aug 25 2009, 07:09 PM kenshapiro2002 As a recently retired teacher, I must commend you ... Aug 25 2009, 07:21 PM jmill One good thing is your problem is limited to a sma... Aug 25 2009, 07:25 PM neil30076
One good thing is your problem is limited to a sm... Aug 25 2009, 07:30 PM jmill I hear you Neil. On the West coast thats true. I... Aug 25 2009, 07:40 PM kenshapiro2002 I live right outside of Baltimore, major US city, ... Aug 25 2009, 07:58 PM neil30076
I live right outside of Baltimore, major US city,... Aug 25 2009, 08:11 PM kenshapiro2002 Didn't see the plug fire (didn't even look... Aug 25 2009, 08:21 PM neil30076
Didn't see the plug fire (didn't even loo... Aug 25 2009, 08:26 PM neil30076
I hear you Neil. On the West coast thats true. ... Aug 25 2009, 08:16 PM kenshapiro2002 OK...back from the gay-raj and I'm actually le... Aug 25 2009, 07:55 PM jmill One more shot in the dark. When you had it chokin... Aug 25 2009, 09:18 PM kenshapiro2002 I'll check that out too. I once had both headl... Aug 25 2009, 09:38 PM kenshapiro2002 The plugs look beautiful (at least #2 did...too la... Aug 26 2009, 01:43 PM kenshapiro2002 Well, the rotor is shot, so that would explain it.... Aug 26 2009, 03:23 PM jmill It wouldn't cause popping out of the carbs. B... Aug 26 2009, 05:16 PM kenshapiro2002 And the top plate on the carb not being bolted dow... Aug 26 2009, 05:25 PM neil30076
And the top plate on the carb not being bolted do... Aug 26 2009, 05:48 PM kenshapiro2002 Set the old multi meter for ohms. Touch leads to c... Aug 26 2009, 05:55 PM neil30076 5,000 is good, 0 - as in open circuit, is not :-) Aug 26 2009, 06:08 PM kenshapiro2002 Should fire up next week. Then Ill see how the car... Aug 26 2009, 06:13 PM neil30076
Should fire up next week. Then Ill see how the ca... Aug 26 2009, 06:19 PM kenshapiro2002 Somebody on here said this was a good linkage. It ... Aug 26 2009, 06:29 PM neil30076
Somebody on here said this was a good linkage. It... Aug 26 2009, 06:42 PM kenshapiro2002 Do you know what brand or type it is?
Somebody ... Aug 26 2009, 06:53 PM jmill Talk to me Goose. Is it running? Aug 28 2009, 04:14 PM neil30076
Talk to me Goose. Is it running?
:agree: yes, ... Aug 28 2009, 04:17 PM kenshapiro2002 Had to order the rotor (and condenser, cap and poi... Aug 28 2009, 04:39 PM neil30076
Had to order the rotor (and condenser, cap and po... Aug 28 2009, 04:55 PM kenshapiro2002 The Pelican landed today (8/31). I'll get crac... Aug 31 2009, 06:52 PM |
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