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ME733
post Jul 5 2009, 12:00 PM
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You have asked about the fuchs which came on my 914 S....here goes...the O.E.M. spare rim is dated 8-72...and so are all the others.....and they are part#...914.361.011.00 .They look different in /on the backside than THE PHOTOGRAPH with notes you have shown......as a point of intrest the spare RIM and ALL the four on the ground are identical in every way...EXCEPT the four on the ground have a Painted BACKGROUND.....and after looking closely with a magnifing glass its obvious they are painted...and not quite dead flat black....they are Not anodized....the spare tire is an original tire ..DUNLOP 165 hr 15....looks like it and the rim have NEVER been used...the rim is clean and perfect (both sides and the tire has full tread....and is not dry rotted.(cracks showing in sidewalls)..However,.I would never consider using it obviously. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Jul 7 2009, 07:12 PM
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the anodizing is a heat tempering process

Anodizing in an electrical process involving cathode/anode interactions in a chemical bath. Heat isn't a significant part of the process. Anodizing makes the surface harder and impervious to oxidation. After anodizing, but before sealing, a dye can be sprayed, dipped, or brushed onto the part to color it.
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post Jul 7 2009, 10:21 PM
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the anodizing is a heat tempering process

Anodizing in an electrical process involving cathode/anode interactions in a chemical bath. Heat isn't a significant part of the process. Anodizing makes the surface harder and impervious to oxidation. After anodizing, but before sealing, a dye can be sprayed, dipped, or brushed onto the part to color it.


So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color the background to that matte or satin silver finish, then seal them???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If so, what is the correct dye & finish on that background area??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

...as opposed to the semi-polished "petals" or "windmill blades" & rims or lips below:

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So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color the background to that matte or satin silver finish, then seal them????

...as opposed to the semi-polished "petals" or "windmill blades" & rims or lips below:

The 'color' difference in this case is a factor of pre-anodizing surface finish. Anodizing is not thick and so will 'show through' any finish on the base metal. Anodizing does reduce any polish slightly, and that's why aluminum trim will never be as reflective as chrome trim. The difficulty in refinishing wheels like this is how to reproduce a non-directional satin finish. Bead blasting is too coarse, sanding leave directional scratches, but perhaps something like soda blasting would work (or some other media, maybe plastic?). Al Reed certainly has this down. He did a set of RS-look five lugs for me that were perfect (RS-look is just like ours, satin background with polished spokes/paddles).
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 22 2009, 03:22 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jul 7 2009, 08:21 PM) *
So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color the background to that matte or satin silver finish, then seal them????

...as opposed to the semi-polished "petals" or "windmill blades" & rims or lips below:

The 'color' difference in this case is a factor of pre-anodizing surface finish. Anodizing is not thick and so will 'show through' any finish on the base metal. Anodizing does reduce any polish slightly, and that's why aluminum trim will never be as reflective as chrome trim. The difficulty in refinishing wheels like this is how to reproduce a non-directional satin finish. Bead blasting is too coarse, sanding leave directional scratches, but perhaps something like soda blasting would work (or some other media, maybe plastic?). Al Reed certainly has this down. He did a set of RS-look five lugs for me that were perfect (RS-look is just like ours, satin background with polished spokes/paddles).


Yeah - Al has it down, he had loads of finished 5-spoke/lug Fuchs with various finishes & was explaining to me that he has some sort of a fine bead blast or something to get the 2L 4-lug background finish - but anodizes first, because he found if done after it turns dark.

btw - side question - when you do those 2056 Raby kits on the 2L, does that retain the D-jet & at what HP & Torque??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jul 22 2009, 03:39 PM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 22 2009, 03:22 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jul 7 2009, 08:21 PM) *
So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color the background to that matte or satin silver finish, then seal them????

...as opposed to the semi-polished "petals" or "windmill blades" & rims or lips below:

The 'color' difference in this case is a factor of pre-anodizing surface finish. Anodizing is not thick and so will 'show through' any finish on the base metal. Anodizing does reduce any polish slightly, and that's why aluminum trim will never be as reflective as chrome trim. The difficulty in refinishing wheels like this is how to reproduce a non-directional satin finish. Bead blasting is too coarse, sanding leave directional scratches, but perhaps something like soda blasting would work (or some other media, maybe plastic?). Al Reed certainly has this down. He did a set of RS-look five lugs for me that were perfect (RS-look is just like ours, satin background with polished spokes/paddles).


Yeah - Al has it down, he had loads of finished 5-spoke/lug Fuchs with various finishes & was explaining to me that he has some sort of a fine bead blast or something to get the 2L 4-lug background finish - but anodizes first, because he found if done after it turns dark.

btw - side question - when you do those 2056 Raby kits on the 2L, does that retain the D-jet & at what HP & Torque??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

A 2056 Raby kit is about 115hp with the Djet...makes the 914 a different car.
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ME733   more about Fuchs   Jul 5 2009, 12:00 PM
Tom_T   Thanx - great info ME733, Your info proves that t...   Jul 5 2009, 04:08 PM
ME733   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions intr...   Jul 5 2009, 10:55 PM
ME733   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions int...   Sep 21 2009, 09:29 AM
Tom_T   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions in...   Sep 21 2009, 02:13 PM
Pat Garvey   Two things here, and the post will be moved to the...   Jul 6 2009, 08:17 PM
Tom_T   BTW Pat - Because the early hubs were flat ...   Jul 6 2009, 10:34 PM
McMark   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cath...   Jul 7 2009, 07:12 PM
RobW   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 08:50 PM
Pat Garvey   Anodizing in an electrical process involving ca...   Jul 7 2009, 09:11 PM
Tom_T   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 09:49 PM
Tom_T   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 10:21 PM
orthobiz   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color ...   Jul 11 2009, 10:20 PM
McMark   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color th...   Jul 22 2009, 04:22 PM
Tom_T   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color t...   Jul 22 2009, 04:39 PM
Bleyseng   [quote name='McMark' post='1194209' date='Jul 22 ...   Sep 21 2009, 10:35 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='McMark' post='1194209' date='Jul 22...   Sep 21 2009, 10:52 PM
Tom_T   Listing of several wheel refinishers on both coast...   Jul 7 2009, 10:09 PM
Tom_T   I suppose the background could be more of a raw un...   Jul 11 2009, 11:30 PM
6freak   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ...$1...   Jul 11 2009, 11:37 PM
Tom_T   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 11 2009, 11:46 PM
6freak   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 12 2009, 12:18 AM
Tom_T   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 12 2009, 12:11 PM
6freak   Talk`n bout the 5 lugs.....From Porsche Design...   Jul 13 2009, 09:35 AM
Tom_T   Talk`n bout the 5 lugs.....From Porsche Desig...   Jul 14 2009, 12:55 AM
6freak   If I keep buy`n fancy stuff I`ll never get...   Jul 14 2009, 11:06 AM
ME733   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 21 2009, 09:20 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 21 2009, 10:05 PM
Pat Garvey   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 22 2009, 07:32 PM
Bleyseng   I have used Wurth's silver as its a close matc...   Sep 23 2009, 08:17 AM
ME733   :popcorn: George H at A.A. has the exact wurth col...   Sep 23 2009, 11:50 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: George H at A.A. has the exact wurth co...   Sep 26 2009, 06:30 PM
davep   In my experience there were 3 front brake rotors u...   Sep 25 2009, 09:02 AM
ME733   :popcorn: Hello davep....Intresting obversavions i...   Sep 25 2009, 08:26 PM
Tom_T   Yes Murray, the Fuchs 2L were listed as "Forg...   Sep 26 2009, 01:46 PM
ME733   :popcorn: TOM, ..Is this of any intrest?...my O.E....   Oct 2 2009, 12:13 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: TOM, ..Is this of any intrest?...my O.E...   Oct 2 2009, 03:43 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...YES TOM this information does help......   Oct 3 2009, 08:03 AM
Tom_T   :popcorn: ...YES TOM this information does help.....   Oct 3 2009, 10:56 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   The correct link for the recall info is now: http...   Oct 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Tom_T   The correct link for the recall info is now: htt...   Oct 4 2009, 10:58 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Hi Tom, I did post the website links update a wee...   Oct 5 2009, 02:49 PM
Tom_T   Hi Tom, I did post the website links update a we...   Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...TOM...So in my wonderment ..about WHY...   Oct 4 2009, 11:52 AM
Tom_T   :popcorn: ...TOM...So in my wonderment ..about WH...   Oct 4 2009, 07:55 PM
ME733   :popcorn: TOM...the ...FUCHS forged wheels..(just...   Oct 4 2009, 08:43 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: TOM...the ...FUCHS forged wheels..(jus...   Oct 4 2009, 10:00 PM


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