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| UberElectricEagle |
Sep 20 2009, 07:20 PM
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atomic ![]() Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 10-August 09 Member No.: 10,659 Region Association: None |
Greetings. I am new to the Porsche world and I purchased a 1972 914 1.7 about a month ago. It's a pretty nice car over all, but I think the motor, or part of the motor, might be toast.
When I purchased it, it badly needed a muffler. The knocking noise was harder to notice and sounded more like an exhaust leak over the horrible sound of the lack of a working muffler. The car seemed to run decent even with the poor exhaust and the price was good so I bought it. I just wanted a decent car over all that I could drive around for fun on sunny days before the winter gets here. It came with stainless heat exchangers I installed and I installed a really nice dual muffler from Dave at Triad. When I fired it up with the new muffler, I really noticed the knocking when I drove it since the all the exhaust leaks were now sealed up and I wasn't wearing ear plugs. At idle it's not too bad, but once I get going, the knocking is very noticeable. It's odd too, because it's not real consistent under power in motion. To me it sounds like the noise is coming from the #1 cylinder. I think the cylinder is providing no power, because when I take the wire off the cap, there is really no change in performance. (I put a video link of the horrible sound below.) Any advice on where to go from here would be great. My gut feeling is telling me the motor is going to have to come out. If I'm going to do all that, I might as well put a 2.0 liter in or ????? I'd even settle for just a solid running motor with some minor upgrades to make it a little quicker. Any advice on what route to take on a good used motor would be great. I guess A motor that runs on 4 cylinders would be an upgrade. Thanks for your help, a mildly depressed Sam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JhEd7SUH4...re=channel_page ![]() |
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Sep 24 2009, 03:51 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Houston Texas Member No.: 9,350 Region Association: None |
no spark on # 1 or no open of exhaust valve, bad, lifter, cam, rocker, or push rod. if you have 140# psi on #1 i suspect no spark, you said you fixed the wire, what how? you did not say you confirmed spark, pull the spark plug insall it back on the wire and crank the motor while watching the plug varify spark..... also just for grins varify you have the wires correct looks like 1-2 could be backwards in the photo but cant tell for sure...
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| UberElectricEagle |
Sep 24 2009, 04:05 PM
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atomic ![]() Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 10-August 09 Member No.: 10,659 Region Association: None |
no spark on # 1 or no open of exhaust valve, bad, lifter, cam, rocker, or push rod. if you have 140# psi on #1 i suspect no spark, you said you fixed the wire, what how? you did not say you confirmed spark, pull the spark plug insall it back on the wire and crank the motor while watching the plug varify spark..... also just for grins varify you have the wires correct looks like 1-2 could be backwards in the photo but cant tell for sure... I confirmed spark a few posts up somewhere in this maze. I pulled the plug out and watched it spark away. I was hoping it wouldn't, but it did. The wire just separated from the connector and I screwed it back on. It's starting and idling way to well for the wires to be backwards I would think. I wish cars could talk. This must be what veterinarians feel like. |
UberElectricEagle 914 1.7 Knocking Sound -- New Here, First Post Sep 20 2009, 07:20 PM
Vacca Rabite Hey Sam,
:wttc: !!
Before you pull the mo... Sep 20 2009, 07:35 PM
Pat Garvey
Hey Sam,
:wttc: !!
Before you pull the m... Sep 20 2009, 07:44 PM

type47
BYW - to the owner - welcome to the mayhem! ... Sep 21 2009, 11:57 AM

Rand
[quote name='Vacca Rabite' post='1216532' date='S... Sep 21 2009, 12:53 PM


UberElectricEagle
Thanks for the encouragement. I don't know ... Sep 21 2009, 02:16 PM

UberElectricEagle
Thanks for the welcome. I'd be happy with th... Sep 21 2009, 02:04 PM
UberElectricEagle
Hey Sam,
:wttc: !!
Before you pull the mo... Sep 21 2009, 01:58 PM
x6in6flames6x :wttc: nice to see another PNW teener. and zach p... Sep 20 2009, 07:42 PM
Rod welcome. Do a valve train check first. Shame the... Sep 21 2009, 03:43 AM
UberElectricEagle
welcome. Do a valve train check first. Shame th... Sep 21 2009, 02:11 PM
underthetire I agree with Zach. Maybe roll the pushrods to che... Sep 21 2009, 12:48 PM
Cupomeat If you like the wheels, keep them as they are the ... Sep 21 2009, 02:16 PM
Cupomeat Just one more thing of encouragement, that doesn... Sep 21 2009, 03:10 PM
Vacca Rabite Hah! I did not even see the youtube clip.
An... Sep 21 2009, 04:34 PM
JazonJJordan :lol4: Haha! Zach's brother drives a tank... Sep 22 2009, 11:25 PM
ME733 :popcorn: First things FIRST....BASIC THINGS FIRST... Sep 22 2009, 09:07 AM
ME733 :popcorn: One ADDITIONAL THOUGHT...whenever you pu... Sep 22 2009, 09:32 AM
r_towle valve train
tune up
carbs adjusted Sep 22 2009, 12:37 PM
Cupomeat Any update?, Inquiring minds WANT to know! Sep 22 2009, 02:49 PM
UberElectricEagle
Any update?, Inquiring minds WANT to know!
I... Sep 22 2009, 03:11 PM
UberElectricEagle Any update?, Inquiring minds WANT to know!
Che... Sep 22 2009, 08:03 PM
Rand Here's hoping for something as simple as a bad... Sep 22 2009, 10:27 PM
Cupomeat Wow, I have never seen such a fouled plug.
Looks ... Sep 23 2009, 12:09 PM
UberElectricEagle
Wow, I have never seen such a fouled plug.
Looks... Sep 23 2009, 06:55 PM
Cupomeat
Wow, I have never seen such a fouled plug.
Look... Sep 23 2009, 09:39 PM
UberElectricEagle
[quote name='UberElectricEagle' post='1217925' da... Sep 23 2009, 11:32 PM
ME733 Well...140 psi does not indicate a blown piston, o... Sep 24 2009, 12:46 AM
Rod Interesting. 140 is fine ;)
Take the carb off ... Sep 24 2009, 02:31 AM
Vacca Rabite Your idle jets are clogged for #1. I'd put mo... Sep 24 2009, 06:44 AM
UberElectricEagle Your idle jets are clogged for #1. I'd put mo... Sep 24 2009, 02:47 PM
UberElectricEagle
Your idle jets are clogged for #1. I'd put m... Sep 24 2009, 04:35 PM
UberElectricEagle
Your idle jets are clogged for #1. I'd put m... Sep 30 2009, 02:23 AM
r_towle If you are getting fuel to number 2, you will get ... Sep 24 2009, 03:25 PM
Vacca Rabite D'oh. You have exceeded my knowledge area. I... Sep 24 2009, 07:29 PM
UberElectricEagle
D'oh. You have exceeded my knowledge area. ... Sep 24 2009, 09:09 PM
Gint Can anyone explain why the idle on the driver... Sep 25 2009, 08:20 AM
Spoke
More likely that the driver's side carb or ca... Sep 25 2009, 11:17 AM
type2man You might have a dropped valve seat. That would ex... Sep 24 2009, 08:39 PM
Rod So you have spark, fuel and compression?
Pleas... Sep 25 2009, 07:42 AM
Vacca Rabite If you are going lean on #2...
Okay, lean is bad.... Sep 25 2009, 07:58 AM
Vacca Rabite One more thing. the really black spots could be ca... Sep 25 2009, 08:34 AM
UberElectricEagle
One more thing. the really black spots could be c... Sep 25 2009, 10:46 AM
Geezer914 If one carb is feeding 2 cylinders, how can one cy... Sep 25 2009, 11:58 AM
Vacca Rabite
If one carb is feeding 2 cylinders, how can one c... Sep 25 2009, 01:22 PM
UberElectricEagle
If one carb is feeding 2 cylinders, how can one ... Sep 25 2009, 02:51 PM
Rod Or as two posts above it's a manifold or gaske... Sep 25 2009, 02:31 PM
UberElectricEagle
Or as two posts above it's a manifold or gask... Sep 25 2009, 02:43 PM
Rod Yes but it would be making a very different noise.... Sep 25 2009, 02:50 PM
UberElectricEagle
Yes but it would be making a very different noise... Sep 25 2009, 02:58 PM
Rod
[quote name='Rod' post='1218572' date='Sep 25 200... Sep 25 2009, 03:05 PM
Rod If the side with the problem is running lean, the... Sep 25 2009, 02:54 PM
UberElectricEagle
If the side with the problem is running lean, th... Sep 25 2009, 03:01 PM
Spoke Try the carb cleaner spray on the outside of all t... Sep 25 2009, 03:05 PM
UberElectricEagle
Try the carb cleaner spray on the outside of all ... Sep 25 2009, 03:09 PM
stugray Just a WAY shot in the dark..... have you checked ... Sep 25 2009, 04:03 PM
UberElectricEagle
Just a WAY shot in the dark..... have you checked... Sep 25 2009, 07:23 PM
Jax914 You pulled the rocker covers, but did you check th... Sep 25 2009, 05:41 PM
UberElectricEagle
You pulled the rocker covers, but did you check t... Sep 25 2009, 07:21 PM
UberElectricEagle Probably will be the last progress report because ... Sep 26 2009, 03:35 PM
Rod Agreed, those compressions aren't great. tak... Sep 30 2009, 05:54 AM
tat2dphreak did you see this over at the pelican site?
http:/... Sep 30 2009, 10:35 AM
UberElectricEagle
did you see this over at the pelican site?
http:... Sep 30 2009, 06:00 PM
Vacca Rabite Wow, what a difference in compression. NOW things... Sep 30 2009, 09:41 PM
UberElectricEagle
Wow, what a difference in compression. NOW thing... Sep 30 2009, 09:57 PM
Vacca Rabite
Wow, what a difference in compression. NOW thin... Sep 30 2009, 10:20 PM![]() ![]() |
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