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ME733
post Jul 5 2009, 12:00 PM
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You have asked about the fuchs which came on my 914 S....here goes...the O.E.M. spare rim is dated 8-72...and so are all the others.....and they are part#...914.361.011.00 .They look different in /on the backside than THE PHOTOGRAPH with notes you have shown......as a point of intrest the spare RIM and ALL the four on the ground are identical in every way...EXCEPT the four on the ground have a Painted BACKGROUND.....and after looking closely with a magnifing glass its obvious they are painted...and not quite dead flat black....they are Not anodized....the spare tire is an original tire ..DUNLOP 165 hr 15....looks like it and the rim have NEVER been used...the rim is clean and perfect (both sides and the tire has full tread....and is not dry rotted.(cracks showing in sidewalls)..However,.I would never consider using it obviously. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Oct 3 2009, 08:03 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ...YES TOM this information does help........HOWEVER.......does this mean the "FUCHS" with (mfg.serial # ending in ...00...) are going to have a FITMENT PROBLEM?..on hub centric front hubs?.....I mean is there a clearance problem,(somewhere) as indicated In your information and as per the factory concerns?...I mounted the wheels / tires, but can see nor "feel" any problem?...WHERE or what is the SPECIFIC problem?...thanks ..murray. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Oct 3 2009, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Oct 3 2009, 07:03 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ...YES TOM this information does help........HOWEVER.......does this mean the "FUCHS" with (mfg.serial # ending in ...00...) are going to have a FITMENT PROBLEM?..on hub centric front hubs?.....I mean is there a clearance problem,(somewhere) as indicated In your information and as per the factory concerns?...I mounted the wheels / tires, but can see nor "feel" any problem?...WHERE or what is the SPECIFIC problem?...thanks ..murray. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


Yes Murry, they absolutely will NOT fit properly against the face of the hub/disk-rotor IF your front hubs are hub-centric (also called "self-centering" hubs)! Do NOT run a -00 wheel of any flavor on hub-centric front hubs/disk-rotors.

This is because the small lip of the ring around the center hub/dust-cap which sticks out a few mm's from the hub/disk-rotor's surface will hold the face away from fully seating on the hub/disk-rotor, which can then "wobble" that amount & damage the lug bolts, rotor, etc. - costing a bunch of $'s to fix, even if there is never an accident as a result.

The inset on the back of the wheel shown in this pic below, shos where the lip fits into, in order for the rest of the wheel back-face to seat properly & flat on the hub-centric front hubs/rotors.

So first check to see if you have a hub-centric front rotor, then act accordingly - i.e.: use only the -01 type wheels if hub-centric, or either -00 or -01 if not. If the PO had ever changed the front rotors due to wear - or if you do yourself, chances are that even the non-hub-centric hubs/rotors up front are/will be hub-centric replacements, since that's the proper spec for your 73 2L (914S (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Go to the web link below, then drop down to the BO & BH Recalls below, go to the right columns & print-out the pages of the actual recall letters sent by VoA to the Porsche+Audi Dealers on the 2 wheel fitment recalls. Do the same for the HO Recall on the battery & fuel lines problem too.
http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/Recalls.htm

Then call PCNA - which is based right near you in Atlanta (you lucky devil! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), and go to option #3 & ask them to check your 914's VIN to find out if either the BO &/or HO were ever performed on your car. I have a PCNA Porsche regional service manager coming out to inspect mine later this month.

If not, then Porsche is still obligated to do the work listed on the VoA letters at a local Porsche Dealership AT NO COST, since these were NHSTA required safety recalls. Have them do the HO Recall to replace the rubber fuel lines,battery top, hold downs, add a battery pad, etc. (most/all parts for this one are still available).

Although I don't know what they'll do for the Fuchs 2L wheels, since they're NLA, but maybe they'll work out a swap of your -00 set for a proper used -01 set. BTW - as the recalls say - a full set was 5 - including the spare, NOT 4 as many have, so insist on that & have them take your 4 -00 Fuchs 2Ls + Steelie Spare! I know it may be a disappointment after spending all that time to get your Fuchs 2Ls into top shape, but now you can insist on equal condition replacements.

Your 2 sets of Mahles may have been the PO's attempt to remedy the wheels fitment problem - or the original selling Porsche Dealer's. Perhaps the PO didn't know that he/she could have the recall performed, or that it even existed.

Sorry, but - if the BO Recall was done on your car, then I'd suggest that you only run on the -01 Mahles until you can buy or swap your -00 Fuchs 2L Alloys for a proper used set of the -01 variety. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Proper Part #...-01 Fuchs Wheel at back face:

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Hope this helps!
BTW - I sent you a PM yesterday or Thursday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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ME733   more about Fuchs   Jul 5 2009, 12:00 PM
Tom_T   Thanx - great info ME733, Your info proves that t...   Jul 5 2009, 04:08 PM
ME733   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions intr...   Jul 5 2009, 10:55 PM
ME733   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions int...   Sep 21 2009, 09:29 AM
Tom_T   Tom...this is murray.,,I found your questions in...   Sep 21 2009, 02:13 PM
Pat Garvey   Two things here, and the post will be moved to the...   Jul 6 2009, 08:17 PM
Tom_T   BTW Pat - Because the early hubs were flat ...   Jul 6 2009, 10:34 PM
McMark   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cath...   Jul 7 2009, 07:12 PM
RobW   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 08:50 PM
Pat Garvey   Anodizing in an electrical process involving ca...   Jul 7 2009, 09:11 PM
Tom_T   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 09:49 PM
Tom_T   Anodizing in an electrical process involving cat...   Jul 7 2009, 10:21 PM
orthobiz   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color ...   Jul 11 2009, 10:20 PM
McMark   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color th...   Jul 22 2009, 04:22 PM
Tom_T   So McMark - on those 2L alloys - did they color t...   Jul 22 2009, 04:39 PM
Bleyseng   [quote name='McMark' post='1194209' date='Jul 22 ...   Sep 21 2009, 10:35 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='McMark' post='1194209' date='Jul 22...   Sep 21 2009, 10:52 PM
Tom_T   Listing of several wheel refinishers on both coast...   Jul 7 2009, 10:09 PM
Tom_T   I suppose the background could be more of a raw un...   Jul 11 2009, 11:30 PM
6freak   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ...$1...   Jul 11 2009, 11:37 PM
Tom_T   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 11 2009, 11:46 PM
6freak   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 12 2009, 12:18 AM
Tom_T   new Fuchs now available through Porsche ......   Jul 12 2009, 12:11 PM
6freak   Talk`n bout the 5 lugs.....From Porsche Design...   Jul 13 2009, 09:35 AM
Tom_T   Talk`n bout the 5 lugs.....From Porsche Desig...   Jul 14 2009, 12:55 AM
6freak   If I keep buy`n fancy stuff I`ll never get...   Jul 14 2009, 11:06 AM
ME733   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 21 2009, 09:20 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 21 2009, 10:05 PM
Pat Garvey   :popcorn: Tom...I did ask an expert about the ...   Sep 22 2009, 07:32 PM
Bleyseng   I have used Wurth's silver as its a close matc...   Sep 23 2009, 08:17 AM
ME733   :popcorn: George H at A.A. has the exact wurth col...   Sep 23 2009, 11:50 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: George H at A.A. has the exact wurth co...   Sep 26 2009, 06:30 PM
davep   In my experience there were 3 front brake rotors u...   Sep 25 2009, 09:02 AM
ME733   :popcorn: Hello davep....Intresting obversavions i...   Sep 25 2009, 08:26 PM
Tom_T   Yes Murray, the Fuchs 2L were listed as "Forg...   Sep 26 2009, 01:46 PM
ME733   :popcorn: TOM, ..Is this of any intrest?...my O.E....   Oct 2 2009, 12:13 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: TOM, ..Is this of any intrest?...my O.E...   Oct 2 2009, 03:43 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...YES TOM this information does help......   Oct 3 2009, 08:03 AM
Tom_T   :popcorn: ...YES TOM this information does help.....   Oct 3 2009, 10:56 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   The correct link for the recall info is now: http...   Oct 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Tom_T   The correct link for the recall info is now: htt...   Oct 4 2009, 10:58 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Hi Tom, I did post the website links update a wee...   Oct 5 2009, 02:49 PM
Tom_T   Hi Tom, I did post the website links update a we...   Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...TOM...So in my wonderment ..about WHY...   Oct 4 2009, 11:52 AM
Tom_T   :popcorn: ...TOM...So in my wonderment ..about WH...   Oct 4 2009, 07:55 PM
ME733   :popcorn: TOM...the ...FUCHS forged wheels..(just...   Oct 4 2009, 08:43 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: TOM...the ...FUCHS forged wheels..(jus...   Oct 4 2009, 10:00 PM


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