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stephenaki
post Oct 11 2009, 03:37 AM
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OK, so I have searched and can't find a thread related to my situation, maybe because people are smarter and more experienced than me. The question is pretty much spelled out in the topic description.

The crank, rods, piston and cylinders are 2.0, the heads are machined 1.7, what measurement do I use for the valve adjustment? 1.7 or 2.0? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I am leaning towards 1.7 but would like to get an educated opinion from the group. Help please, I want to re-do the valve adjustment before I mess with anything else.
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post Oct 11 2009, 10:23 AM
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Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled exhaust valves, so the setting is .006" all the way around. You'll need to reset them at 300 miles, then 1500, and every 3000 thereafter. BE SURE you calculate the deck height and combustion chamber volume accurately and adjust the cylinder base shims accordingly or you're gonna have WAAAAAAY too much compression. The Cap'n
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post Oct 11 2009, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 11 2009, 08:23 AM) *

Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled exhaust valves, so the setting is .006" all the way around. You'll need to reset them at 300 miles, then 1500, and every 3000 thereafter. BE SURE you calculate the deck height and combustion chamber volume accurately and adjust the cylinder base shims accordingly or you're gonna have WAAAAAAY too much compression. The Cap'n


Thanks, I'll adjust the valves then check compression and see where it is at.
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QUOTE(stephenaki @ Oct 11 2009, 09:54 AM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 11 2009, 08:23 AM) *

Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled exhaust valves, so the setting is .006" all the way around. You'll need to reset them at 300 miles, then 1500, and every 3000 thereafter. BE SURE you calculate the deck height and combustion chamber volume accurately and adjust the cylinder base shims accordingly or you're gonna have WAAAAAAY too much compression. The Cap'n


Thanks, I'll adjust the valves then check compression and see where it is at.


NOT "the compression", the "compression RATIO". Has to be calculated before the heads go on. If you're using virgin 1.7 heads, it'll be too high. If you're using 1.7 heads that have been flycut, it'll be way too high. If you left out the head gaskets, as some here are inclined to do, it'll be WAAAAAAAAAAAY too high.

As for looking for TDC by using the mark on the distributor, good luck. It's set by the mark on the fan, and if that wasn't done right, nothing will be right. You don't need to do that unless you're using the antiquated, tedious, effort intensive, and downright old fashioned and inaccurate Pelican Parts technique. Using my technique, easily found in the "classic threads" section of this website, I can have a whole valve adjustment job done while you're still looking for your first (of 4) TDC.

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post Oct 12 2009, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 12 2009, 10:06 AM) *

QUOTE(stephenaki @ Oct 11 2009, 09:54 AM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 11 2009, 08:23 AM) *

Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled exhaust valves, so the setting is .006" all the way around. You'll need to reset them at 300 miles, then 1500, and every 3000 thereafter. BE SURE you calculate the deck height and combustion chamber volume accurately and adjust the cylinder base shims accordingly or you're gonna have WAAAAAAY too much compression. The Cap'n


Thanks, I'll adjust the valves then check compression and see where it is at.


NOT "the compression", the "compression RATIO". Has to be calculated before the heads go on. If you're using virgin 1.7 heads, it'll be too high. If you're using 1.7 heads that have been flycut, it'll be way too high. If you left out the head gaskets, as some here are inclined to do, it'll be WAAAAAAAAAAAY too high.

As for looking for TDC by using the mark on the distributor, good luck. It's set by the mark on the fan, and if that wasn't done right, nothing will be right. You don't need to do that unless you're using the antiquated, tedious, effort intensive, and downright old fashioned and inaccurate Pelican Parts technique. Using my technique, easily found in the "classic threads" section of this website, I can have a whole valve adjustment job done while you're still looking for your first (of 4) TDC.

The Cap'n


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Will look into your thread, as far as the heads, no, not virgin 1.7 heads, no I didn't leave out the head gaskets. The pistons are dished, how much of a difference will this make in the ratio? Learning all the time.
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stephenaki   Valve Adjustment help needed - Vielen dank!   Oct 11 2009, 03:37 AM
Bartlett 914   That is a good question. Makes me want to ask why ...   Oct 11 2009, 09:12 AM
kwales   Which is bigger?? The gap is designed to get smal...   Oct 11 2009, 09:23 AM
Gint   While I understand that completely, I've heard...   Oct 11 2009, 09:35 AM
tat2dphreak   :agree: I'd like the cap'n or jake to chi...   Oct 11 2009, 09:46 AM
stephenaki   Well, until I get a good answer I am not proceedin...   Oct 11 2009, 09:53 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled ...   Oct 11 2009, 10:23 AM
stephenaki   Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium filled...   Oct 11 2009, 10:54 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Your 1.7 heads are unlikely to have sodium fille...   Oct 12 2009, 12:06 PM
stephenaki   [quote name='stephenaki' post='1224590' date='Oct...   Oct 12 2009, 12:24 PM
904svo   Its a 2 ltr, then adjust .006 intake and .008 exh...   Oct 11 2009, 02:10 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Its a 2 ltr, then adjust .006 intake and .008 ex...   Oct 12 2009, 11:58 AM
stephenaki   OK, so, after fiddling around with trying to find ...   Oct 12 2009, 11:24 AM
SirAndy   distributor notch not lined up properly Make sure...   Oct 12 2009, 12:15 PM
stephenaki   distributor notch not lined up properly Make sur...   Oct 12 2009, 12:20 PM
tradisrad   It may be a stupid question, but did you put the d...   Oct 12 2009, 11:28 AM
r_towle   First off, think about what the camshaft looks lik...   Oct 12 2009, 11:33 AM
stephenaki   First off, think about what the camshaft looks li...   Oct 12 2009, 12:16 PM
SLITS   Pull number 1 spark plug ... stick your finger in ...   Oct 12 2009, 02:57 PM
Sleepin   Pull number 1 spark plug ... stick your finger in...   Oct 12 2009, 04:31 PM
stephenaki   Pull number 1 spark plug ... stick your finger i...   Oct 13 2009, 01:58 AM
stephenaki   First, my thanks to the Cap'n for setting me o...   Oct 13 2009, 12:42 PM
Cevan   Just another option: What I did when I had the mo...   Oct 13 2009, 03:10 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Just another option: What I did when I had the m...   Oct 13 2009, 03:44 PM
Cevan   Just another option: What I did when I had the ...   Oct 13 2009, 06:51 PM
Cap'n Krusty   [quote name='Cap'n Krusty' post='1225524' dat...   Oct 13 2009, 11:01 PM
Gint   You NEVER have to know what cylinder it's ...   Oct 13 2009, 10:25 PM
stephenaki   Almost wore out the battery but not the starter an...   Oct 14 2009, 12:39 AM
stephenaki   OK, last question just to make sure I don't sc...   Oct 14 2009, 09:40 AM
SirAndy   The fuel pump, two wires, black going to ground b...   Oct 14 2009, 11:25 AM
stephenaki   The fuel pump, two wires, black going to ground ...   Oct 14 2009, 11:49 AM
SLITS   If they connected the pump to the coil terminal .....   Oct 14 2009, 10:54 AM
stephenaki   If they connected the pump to the coil terminal ....   Oct 14 2009, 10:57 AM
stephenaki   Well ladies and gentlemen...it started! :Qarl:...   Oct 14 2009, 11:17 AM
Cevan   Well ladies and gentlemen...it started! :Qarl...   Oct 14 2009, 03:26 PM
Kirmizi   Well done!! :trophy: Mike   Oct 14 2009, 11:19 AM
SLITS   Everybody's a critic ... at least it runs whic...   Oct 14 2009, 01:08 PM


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