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| davesprinkle |
Dec 3 2009, 10:14 AM
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Here's why most modern cars have the ebrake handle in the middle of the car -- it's so the cables running to the wheels have identical length and path. How do I know? Here's the anecdote:
For the last year, I've been struggling with my ebrake system. The right caliper just wouldn't clamp as tightly as the left. I've got rebuilt calipers, new pads, new cables, proper clearance, but no worky. Finally found out why. It's the internal drag of the actuation cables. The passenger-side cable is substantially longer than the driver side. Also, the right-side cable has 3 right-angle bends vs the left-side cable with none. This results in so much internal friction that the cable just binds solid when it's pulled. I was able to improve the situation somewhat by lubricating the cable. Still not perfect, but much better. |
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| PRS914-6 |
Dec 4 2009, 10:17 AM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
It cracks me up when people get on a forum and ask for help and then get pissy with those that are trying to help them.
I'm not saying that there is not more friction in a longer cable because of course there is. I'm saying that if you have two quality new cables in this application not working there is something wrong. Just because YOUR cables are high in friction does not mean that ALL cables are that way and it's a defective design. Car manufacturers have been using cable systems since Barny Rubble was driving. Not the best system but they were required to have a mechanical backup. I don't want this thread to give out the idea that there is something wrong with the 914 cable setup since it works fine for most people. As for my cable system on my car, just ask others who have seen it.....It works great. If you are satisfied that Porsche and other manufacturers are using a bad design you should build a better system.... |
| davesprinkle |
Dec 4 2009, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 2,943 Region Association: None
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It cracks me up when people get on a forum and ask for help and then get pissy with those that are trying to help them. I'm not saying that there is not more friction in a longer cable because of course there is. I'm saying that if you have two quality new cables in this application not working there is something wrong. Just because YOUR cables are high in friction does not mean that ALL cables are that way and it's a defective design. Car manufacturers have been using cable systems since Barny Rubble was driving. Not the best system but they were required to have a mechanical backup. I don't want this thread to give out the idea that there is something wrong with the 914 cable setup since it works fine for most people. As for my cable system on my car, just ask others who have seen it.....It works great. If you are satisfied that Porsche and other manufacturers are using a bad design you should build a better system.... Paul, you need to read my original post. My post didn't request help; it offered guidance to others who might have the same problem. And if you'll read the responses, you'll see that at least three other 914 drivers have EXACTLY the same issue. I'm glad you're not one of them, but when you blindly extrapolate your success to every 914 on the road, then you do the community and others who might have this problem a disservice. I don't need to build a better system. I've already solved the problem with the OE system. I lubricated the cable. Others should consider doing the same. |
davesprinkle Why doesn't my right ebrake work? Dec 3 2009, 10:14 AM
jim_hoyland I have the same issue.....where did you lube the c... Dec 3 2009, 10:34 AM
davesprinkle
I have the same issue.....where did you lube the ... Dec 3 2009, 10:46 AM
tat2dphreak dunno about OR, or CA, but a hydraulic Parking bra... Dec 3 2009, 12:02 PM
davesprinkle
dunno about OR, or CA, but a hydraulic Parking br... Dec 3 2009, 12:56 PM
tat2dphreak new cables should not bind, perhaps it was bent be... Dec 3 2009, 01:06 PM
davesprinkle
new cables should not bind, perhaps it was bent b... Dec 3 2009, 01:27 PM
tat2dphreak
new cables should not bind, perhaps it was bent ... Dec 3 2009, 01:59 PM
Shade Tree I've been considering just putting a line lock... Dec 3 2009, 01:18 PM
JJ914GT That's exactly why my car has the handbrake in... Dec 3 2009, 01:45 PM
JJ914GT The PO installed it before I got the car, so didn... Dec 3 2009, 04:13 PM
McMark Dave, did you try adjusting the ebrake cables? An... Dec 3 2009, 10:37 PM
davesprinkle
Dave, did you try adjusting the ebrake cables? A... Dec 3 2009, 11:37 PM
PRS914-6 The length of the cable should not effect it. The... Dec 3 2009, 10:47 PM
davesprinkle
The length of the cable should not effect it.
... Dec 3 2009, 11:35 PM
PRS914-6
[quote name='PRS914-6' post='1246177' date='... Dec 3 2009, 11:51 PM
Mike914 My cars both grab the driver's side rotor firs... Dec 4 2009, 12:11 AM

davesprinkle
My cars both grab the driver's side rotor fir... Dec 4 2009, 09:07 AM
davesprinkle
Sorry, the friction difference between two new ca... Dec 4 2009, 09:40 AM
Solo914 Dave,
First off, Thanks, I know if you were able ... Dec 4 2009, 11:01 AM
davesprinkle
Dave,
First off, Thanks, I know if you were able... Dec 4 2009, 11:22 AM
Chicken This is not a design flaw/issue it is an expectat... Dec 4 2009, 11:16 AM
davesprinkle
This is not a design flaw/issue it is an expecta... Dec 4 2009, 11:40 AM
Cevan
The "E-brake" as you call it is not an ... Dec 4 2009, 01:00 PM
SirAndy
The "E-brake" as you call it is not an... Dec 4 2009, 01:11 PM
messix Dear Dave,
I really don't think that you are... Dec 4 2009, 11:45 AM
davesprinkle
Dear Dave,
I really don't think that you ar... Dec 4 2009, 12:37 PM
messix
Dear Dave,
I really don't think that you a... Dec 4 2009, 02:58 PM
Chicken quite simply adjust the cables so the RR makes co... Dec 4 2009, 11:51 AM
davesprinkle
quite simply adjust the cables so the RR makes c... Dec 4 2009, 12:26 PM
SirAndy
I call the system an "emergency brake... Dec 4 2009, 12:45 PM
davesprinkle
I call the system an "emergency brake... Dec 4 2009, 12:56 PM
SirAndy
Its other function is as an EMERGENCY brake.
Firs... Dec 4 2009, 01:18 PM
davesprinkle
I stomp on the brakes, *POP* it said and the peda... Dec 4 2009, 01:33 PM
SirAndy [quote name='SirAndy' post='1246418' date='Dec 4 2... Dec 4 2009, 01:37 PM
davesprinkle
Did you also read my question? I'll ask again... Dec 4 2009, 03:09 PM
Solo914
[quote name='SirAndy' post='1246428' date='Dec 4 ... Dec 4 2009, 03:18 PM
SirAndy From the owners manual: Dec 4 2009, 12:53 PM
tat2dphreak that happened to me on an old hunting truck we had... Dec 4 2009, 01:56 PM
Chicken guys i am glad we can all give each other a hard t... Dec 4 2009, 02:50 PM
SirAndy A+ for your lubrication skills :thumbsup:
D- for ... Dec 4 2009, 03:13 PM
Shade Tree Don't the brake lines travel through the tunne... Dec 4 2009, 03:17 PM
messix
Don't the brake lines travel through the tunn... Dec 4 2009, 03:22 PM
SirAndy :lol4:
http://wtanaka.com/node/7745 Dec 4 2009, 03:38 PM
MDG
:lol4:
http://wtanaka.com/node/7745
:rotfl: ... Dec 4 2009, 08:14 PM![]() ![]() |
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