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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ....Well I was fortunate some few years ago to luck up on a no-brand silicone liquid that was like molassis...used it for every rubber part on my cars until it was gone......AND I HAVE FOUND....a product you need to be aware of a product I just discovered. I think It,s new on the market....here goes ...BLACK MAGIC -Titanium....it,s a tire shine product...Its a THICK silicone,almost a gel, and comes with a scrub brush applicator. This stuff is INCREDABLE. I scrubbed down my tires (washed them) several times,allowed them to dry, and in the warm sun applied this stuff to both sides of the tires. They look better than new....Then I started on the rubber bumper tops, and every other rubber part on the car.(914)...it,s been about 3 weeks since I treated the whole car, and the rubber everywhere looks just great!!!...I got clean rags, wiped down most of the rubber parts, which released the imbeded dirt and crud from the rubber. then reapplied it everywhere again. ALL this took about 1/4 of the bottle, which is 16 oz,s. This stuff really works, It soaks into the rubber making it softer, looks great and will last longer than anything I have ever used... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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For the 1975 and '76 owners with the impact bumpers, I use a product called Turtlewax Blacktop. Looks like show polish, and is no longer made. This is the only product that I've found to work on those type bumpers. I recall someone in the past trying real black shoe polish with poor results. If anyone has a product currently available, I would appreciate a heads up, as my supply of Blacktop is almost gone.
As far a rubber treatment, I remove all the dirt and oxidation with a printing supply product called "Rubber Rejuvenator" from Prisco. We use it to clean and treat rubber printing press rollers. This is not available in any store- only from a printing supplier. I can provide the information for those that are interested. It's not cheap, and you have to buy a gallon but, I've used it on 50 year old rubber, and when you're done, it looks brand new. Then I treat with Griot's Garage Vinyl and Rubber treatment. While it's better than Armorall I'm still looking for the perfect dressing. Dave |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
For the 1975 and '76 owners with the impact bumpers, I use a product called Turtlewax Blacktop. Looks like show polish, and is no longer made. This is the only product that I've found to work on those type bumpers. I recall someone in the past trying real black shoe polish with poor results. If anyone has a product currently available, I would appreciate a heads up, as my supply of Blacktop is almost gone. As far a rubber treatment, I remove all the dirt and oxidation with a printing supply product called "Rubber Rejuvenator" from Prisco. We use it to clean and treat rubber printing press rollers. This is not available in any store- only from a printing supplier. I can provide the information for those that are interested. It's not cheap, and you have to buy a gallon but, I've used it on 50 year old rubber, and when you're done, it looks brand new. Then I treat with Griot's Garage Vinyl and Rubber treatment. While it's better than Armorall I'm still looking for the perfect dressing. Dave Dave, what are the details on that Prisco rubber rejuvenator & a source in SoCal if you know?? I can use it on the rollers on my 1990 Minolta 4300 copier, as well as on my 914 & other cars - all of which are 20+ now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Geesh, looking at your 914 & 911 mileage, do you ever drive those poor neglected machines! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My 73 914-2.0 has 174k after sitting in my garages the last 24 years on blocks, the 88 Westy just rolled 200k over TG weekend, the BMer is 170+ & kids Honda is over 130k! unfortunately/fortunatly, we all have to drive our cars & I'm looking forward to having the 914 restored & driving again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanx! Tom |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 ![]() |
Tom,
Like Pat Garvey I'm a stickler for originality, which has prevented me from driving the pants off my cars. Part of my enjoyment is preserving what I have. You can't believe the positive reinforcement I get when I bring out the 914 and people ask me how long have I've owned the car, or who painted it. When I answer I'm the original owner and took delivery in December of 1975 and "Porsche" painted the car, they simply can't believe it! Nevertheless, most people, either in or out of the car hobby have a hard time grasping the limited driving thing. I try to draw an analogy to owning a boat; you only use it in the summer and on a nice day. I think you will have a hard time buying this product on your own from CA. You would have to set up an account etc. etc. I can send you a small container from my stash. If you like it I can order a gallon through my company. Just IM me with your shipping address (street address only- no P.O. Boxes). It's about $21.00 a gallon plus shipping to me, plus shipping to you. Dave |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Tom, Like Pat Garvey I'm a stickler for originality, which has prevented me from driving the pants off my cars. Part of my enjoyment is preserving what I have. You can't believe the positive reinforcement I get when I bring out the 914 and people ask me how long have I've owned the car, or who painted it. When I answer I'm the original owner and took delivery in December of 1975 and "Porsche" painted the car, they simply can't believe it! Nevertheless, most people, either in or out of the car hobby have a hard time grasping the limited driving thing. I try to draw an analogy to owning a boat; you only use it in the summer and on a nice day. I think you will have a hard time buying this product on your own from CA. You would have to set up an account etc. etc. I can send you a small container from my stash. If you like it I can order a gallon through my company. Just IM me with your shipping address (street address only- no P.O. Boxes). It's about $21.00 a gallon plus shipping to me, plus shipping to you. Dave Thanx for the offer Dave, let me check those MSDS later & ask my local printer if they can get it locally, or if it's banned by "The People's Republic of Kaulifornia". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) As to cars, mileage, use & disuse - no negatives intended, just 2 different philosophies, neither being mutually exclusive - not do either have more or less commitment to originality. Not being a CW/show person in the past, I think what you're talking about is PCA's "Preservation Class" of C'd'E, vs. those of us who weren't a fortunate to get a 914 new, & had to drive our cars as a DD for some time - so we have to "Restore" - both account for a commitment to Originality. I recall a 914 which George Hussey had to cut out of a basement where it had sat for 20 or more years, which had something like 20k mi on it as "time capsule", & others which are purchased but never driven or very little. IMHO - that's an interesting item for a museum or time capsule, but a waste of a true engineering marvelwhich was made to be driven - at least some. IIRC - Pat used his 72 914 for many years as his DD, & has had it repainted at least once after she was relegated to "garage queen". Yours with 24k in 35 years is only an average of less than 700 mi per year - which is extraordinarily low unless she was stored for a number of years without any driving. I had a buddy with a new 1970 914-4 with similar rare use & low milage whose RED paint was still showroom fresh, as were the inside of the trunks & fuel tank area which you could eat off of!!!! ....different strokes for different folks. When my 73 2L is repaired, restored & running again - with a commitment to originality with a few deviations for durability or where NLA (eg: SS HEs, repro bumper top pad, NLA seals, etc.), I intend to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) it some few 1000 miles per year, but probably well under 5k/yr. For me - looking & polishing & showing my 914 baby is just not enough, without the joy of driving it a bit too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Plus I'm an odd one out in that I've only owned 6 cars in my 57 years life - driving since 15-1/2 in the mid-60's (not counting my parents' cars on which I learned)! If you compare the mileages & years of those cars listed below, you'll see that they too are still considered very low mileage cars, because we keep commuting to an almost non-existent minimum now & were always lower than avereage, even with annual 2-6k XC trips in all of them. IMHO - that does NOT make myself &/or others whose choose to drive their 914s, 911s & other classic cars as less committed to originality! So keep an open mind to those of us "low life" who choose to driver our "fun-teens"!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 ![]() |
Tom, Like Pat Garvey I'm a stickler for originality, which has prevented me from driving the pants off my cars. Part of my enjoyment is preserving what I have. You can't believe the positive reinforcement I get when I bring out the 914 and people ask me how long have I've owned the car, or who painted it. When I answer I'm the original owner and took delivery in December of 1975 and "Porsche" painted the car, they simply can't believe it! Nevertheless, most people, either in or out of the car hobby have a hard time grasping the limited driving thing. I try to draw an analogy to owning a boat; you only use it in the summer and on a nice day. I think you will have a hard time buying this product on your own from CA. You would have to set up an account etc. etc. I can send you a small container from my stash. If you like it I can order a gallon through my company. Just IM me with your shipping address (street address only- no P.O. Boxes). It's about $21.00 a gallon plus shipping to me, plus shipping to you. Dave Thanx for the offer Dave, let me check those MSDS later & ask my local printer if they can get it locally, or if it's banned by "The People's Republic of Kaulifornia". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) As to cars, mileage, use & disuse - no negatives intended, just 2 different philosophies, neither being mutually exclusive - not do either have more or less commitment to originality. Not being a CW/show person in the past, I think what you're talking about is PCA's "Preservation Class" of C'd'E, vs. those of us who weren't a fortunate to get a 914 new, & had to drive our cars as a DD for some time - so we have to "Restore" - both account for a commitment to Originality. I recall a 914 which George Hussey had to cut out of a basement where it had sat for 20 or more years, which had something like 20k mi on it as "time capsule", & others which are purchased but never driven or very little. IMHO - that's an interesting item for a museum or time capsule, but a waste of a true engineering marvelwhich was made to be driven - at least some. IIRC - Pat used his 72 914 for many years as his DD, & has had it repainted at least once after she was relegated to "garage queen". Yours with 24k in 35 years is only an average of less than 700 mi per year - which is extraordinarily low unless she was stored for a number of years without any driving. I had a buddy with a new 1970 914-4 with similar rare use & low milage whose RED paint was still showroom fresh, as were the inside of the trunks & fuel tank area which you could eat off of!!!! ....different strokes for different folks. When my 73 2L is repaired, restored & running again - with a commitment to originality with a few deviations for durability or where NLA (eg: SS HEs, repro bumper top pad, NLA seals, etc.), I intend to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) it some few 1000 miles per year, but probably well under 5k/yr. For me - looking & polishing & showing my 914 baby is just not enough, without the joy of driving it a bit too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Plus I'm an odd one out in that I've only owned 6 cars in my 57 years life - driving since 15-1/2 in the mid-60's (not counting my parents' cars on which I learned)! If you compare the mileages & years of those cars listed below, you'll see that they too are still considered very low mileage cars, because we keep commuting to an almost non-existent minimum now & were always lower than avereage, even with annual 2-6k XC trips in all of them. IMHO - that does NOT make myself &/or others whose choose to drive their 914s, 911s & other classic cars as less committed to originality! So keep an open mind to those of us "low life" who choose to driver our "fun-teens"!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Tom While I subscribe to the minimal driving/preservation group I am envious of those that have the compassion, fortitude and time to do a complete restoration. And if some custom parts or procedures get added in the process, hey you're the owner, so go for it. I never ever pass judgement on someone's car or how they present it. It's a free country. That being said I am more interested in the originality and history thread- that's why I post on it. Not a knock on the customizers- just not my cup of tea. Getting back to the Rubber Rejuvenator- If you have any trouble obtaining some, just let me know. I would be happy to help. It really makes the rubber look "original", and you know how expensive NOS or repop pieces go for! Let me know how you make out. By the way, I put 10,000 miles on my car the first year I owned it and 14,000 miles since then. That's the result of joining PCA and getting the concours "bug." When you spend 3 months detailing a car, you tend to hesitate to rack up the miles or you will be spending another three months. I know, it's nuts, but it's fun to me. Dave |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Tom While I subscribe to the minimal driving/preservation group I am envious of those that have the compassion, fortitude and time to do a complete restoration. And if some custom parts or procedures get added in the process, hey you're the owner, so go for it. I never ever pass judgement on someone's car or how they present it. It's a free country. That being said I am more interested in the originality and history thread- that's why I post on it. Not a knock on the customizers- just not my cup of tea. Getting back to the Rubber Rejuvenator- If you have any trouble obtaining some, just let me know. I would be happy to help. It really makes the rubber look "original", and you know how expensive NOS or repop pieces go for! Let me know how you make out. By the way, I put 10,000 miles on my car the first year I owned it and 14,000 miles since then. That's the result of joining PCA and getting the concours "bug." When you spend 3 months detailing a car, you tend to hesitate to rack up the miles or you will be spending another three months. I know, it's nuts, but it's fun to me. Dave Thanx Dave, I'll let you know on the rubber rejuvenator stuff if I dead-end out here. BTW - I'm not a "customizer" & am putting my 73 2L back to the was it was when it left the factory, including "recreating" the set of Fuchs alloys, fog lights & center console/gauges which had been removed by the dealer &/or OO/PO before I got it in 12/75. However, once I fix it up - I do plan to drive it more than a couple of hundred miles a year to CW shows, & may even show it a few times myself "before it gets too dirty", as I'm not one to spend 3 months a year detailing a car never to use it. I've always liked the 914 because it gets more "smiles per mile" than most cars, esp. in sunny SoCal!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That's all I was saying, that those who drive their 914s a bit more than you can also be equally committed to originality - they're not mutually exclusive. I also agree with the posting here in O&H, and do so mostly here myself. |
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