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VaccaRabite
post Dec 9 2009, 01:28 PM
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How do you folks figure out what your cars can do in a safe surrounding?

Now that my car is driving, I'd like to find out how it corners, where it can be pushed, and where it can not. I guess a big parking lot would work, I know I don't want to do this on the open street. And I'd prefer not to learn my car on an auto-X course.

I'm interested in doing things like Drivers Ed and Auto-X, but I want to get an idea of my limits w/o trees, poles, other cars or babies in prams getting in my way - and preferably in an environment where Johnny Law won't ticket me for it either.

in a factory built and balanced car, I figure they have done the basic handling testing. In my car, none of that has been done yet, and I am driving it like a pussy cause I don't know when the back end will come loose or the front end is going to push, or what will happen when the wheels lock under emergency stop conditions, etc.

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r_towle
post Dec 9 2009, 02:03 PM
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I will jump up on my soap box.

........blah blah blha

Go to the Autox.

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post Dec 9 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Dec 9 2009, 12:03 PM) *

Go to the Autox.

I dis-agree ...

I don't think a competitive event is a good place to do the initial car setup.
It's a event. It's fast paced. It's hectic. You'll have your hands full just to keep up with the event.


On the race car, we go to open track days for the final dial in of the car. But even then, we've already done the initial setup before we get there.


A open space where you can set your own pace is the way to go.
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post Dec 9 2009, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 9 2009, 03:18 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Dec 9 2009, 12:03 PM) *

Go to the Autox.

I dis-agree ...

I don't think a competitive event is a good place to do the initial car setup.
It's a event. It's fast paced. It's hectic. You'll have your hands full just to keep up with the event.


On the race car, we go to open track days for the final dial in of the car. But even then, we've already done the initial setup before we get there.


A open space where you can set your own pace is the way to go.
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Maybe I am confused.
I thought he wanted to test the limits of his car in a safe place....no trees, no kids.
If its for initial suspension tuning and setup...certainly an autox is not a great venue for that.

If its for testing the limits of the car...autox is perfect.
I got a call when I was posting....so I made it short.

I have brought all my kids to the autox. Its a great place to learn.
Its a venue (if you forget about the competition) to find out where the line is.
The line that when you cross it...you loose control.

That line is both car and driver dependant.
If you spin at an autox all you hurt is your ego.
Its a fantastic place to learn.

The key Zach.....spin the car.
Spin it two ways.

Head into a sharp corner while braking and feel how the weight shifts forward and your ass end gets super light...then you spin.

Spin it a second way...same corner.
DO NOT BRAKE.
keep pushing that corner with no brakes till the car spins.

Thos two tests will teach you what it feel like right BEFORE it spins.

The fix for both is different, but can be learned.

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Vacca Rabite   Safe road testing   Dec 9 2009, 01:28 PM
SirAndy   A large parking lot works just fine. You can even ...   Dec 9 2009, 02:01 PM
rmital   A large parking lot works just fine. Big Corpora...   Dec 9 2009, 02:26 PM
r_towle   I will jump up on my soap box. ........blah blah ...   Dec 9 2009, 02:03 PM
SirAndy   Go to the Autox. I dis-agree ... I don't thi...   Dec 9 2009, 02:18 PM
r_towle   Go to the Autox. I dis-agree ... I don't th...   Dec 9 2009, 04:22 PM
blitZ   I agree an AX is a great and safe place to learn y...   Dec 9 2009, 02:09 PM
tat2dphreak   I dive mine down country roads a lot... I just tes...   Dec 9 2009, 02:10 PM
type11969   They held one of these out on Long Island a year o...   Dec 9 2009, 02:30 PM
flipb   One one of my first drives in my 914 (I'd prob...   Dec 9 2009, 02:31 PM
Dr Evil   Driving in the parking lots can land you with a tr...   Dec 9 2009, 02:34 PM
type11969   Follow in a support vehicle at a safe distance . ....   Dec 9 2009, 02:37 PM
Dr Evil   Ya, I thought about that, but it is his car ;) :to...   Dec 9 2009, 02:38 PM
McMark   While an AX is a bit hectic, driving fast or at th...   Dec 9 2009, 02:40 PM
ConeDodger   While an AX is a bit hectic, driving fast or at t...   Dec 9 2009, 02:51 PM
SirAndy   ... AX ...it's the only place I'd try to ...   Dec 9 2009, 02:53 PM
Dr Evil   Chris, riding with me is like riding a motorcycle,...   Dec 9 2009, 02:41 PM
type47   Potomac Region of PCA offers a High Performance Dr...   Dec 9 2009, 02:47 PM
type11969   Remember those bruises across your chest/shoulder?...   Dec 9 2009, 02:47 PM
Dr Evil   Remember those bruises across your chest/shoulder...   Dec 9 2009, 03:12 PM
6freak   local PCA skills day,,,, even better then AX see ...   Dec 9 2009, 03:01 PM
Dr Evil   local PCA skills day,,,, even better then AX see...   Dec 9 2009, 03:11 PM
6freak   local PCA skills day,,,, even better then AX se...   Dec 9 2009, 04:03 PM
Bruce Hinds   I like the large corporate parking areas. You don...   Dec 9 2009, 03:07 PM
flipb   All you PA guys... does Hersheypark chain up their...   Dec 9 2009, 03:12 PM
Dr Evil   I dont know, but it is right across from the polic...   Dec 9 2009, 03:15 PM
Vacca Rabite   Just thinking out loud... Has anyone ever called l...   Dec 9 2009, 03:39 PM
SirAndy   Has anyone ever called local law enforcement, exp...   Dec 9 2009, 03:46 PM
zymurgist   Or, find a rich friend with a round driveway in f...   Dec 9 2009, 05:52 PM
SirAndy   Or, find a rich friend with a round driveway in ...   Dec 9 2009, 05:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'll also look into the HPDC in the spring. T...   Dec 9 2009, 03:41 PM
Spoke   It would seem that a large parking lot is the tick...   Dec 9 2009, 04:18 PM
jsayre914   Hey Zach, we could be the parking lot bandits. Ne...   Dec 9 2009, 05:45 PM
Vacca Rabite   I called the local PD. The receptionist was very ...   Dec 9 2009, 10:28 PM
6freak   I'd be nervous as hell having never even done ...   Dec 10 2009, 09:09 AM
tat2dphreak   the local PCA might have an Auto-X class, too... t...   Dec 10 2009, 09:00 AM
6freak   SO DID YOU FIND A PLACE ????   Dec 14 2009, 09:20 PM
Vacca Rabite   SO DID YOU FIND A PLACE ???? Not as such. Poli...   Dec 15 2009, 08:07 AM
6freak   SO DID YOU FIND A PLACE ???? Not as such. Pol...   Dec 15 2009, 08:29 AM
ClayPerrine   The local PCA AX here in DFW has a driving school ...   Dec 15 2009, 07:47 AM
r_towle   Not sure the best advice. Our state troopers pract...   Dec 15 2009, 06:32 PM


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