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> SOT: Considering a MK2, 3 or 4 VW GTI for my new DD, Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly...
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post Dec 15 2009, 04:57 PM
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I don't want to spend a fortune and I don't buy new cars anymore anyway. I like the fact that I can get into cars I've always liked without losing my shorts or spending a a ton of cash. I have a 914, a 4WD truck and a DD (the DD will be replaced with this car) so absolute dependability isn't the most important factor as I can deal with one car having a little down time.

I've been wanting to get an old water cooled VW again for quite awhile. While I'd prefer a MK1 Scirocco or GTI, they aren't exactly plentiful anymore. So I'm looking at the later GTIs. Of course a Scirocco wouldn't be out of the question either. But I can go as late as the early MK4's GTIs. I've heard different things about the reliability of these cars, but I respect most everyone's opinion here and know a lot of you guys have probably owned a few of these. So give me the run down on the different years and their strengths/weaknesses?
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post Dec 16 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(wayne1234 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:12 AM) *
What are you guys doing to your cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) just kidding.. I have a 2000 Audi TT that I have done a quite a few mods on. There are certain things you can almost count on as you get more miles on these cars , the problems are all documented and if you get on the VWvortex forums you will see how to diagnose and repair and mod almost everything.. I consider most of them to be regular maintance for these cars.. but some thinks electronics should last forever.. as mentioned coil packs cause many people hardaches, but if you replace all 4 somewhere around 70-80k you wont have any problems. This is a known wear item, if you dont replace them all at the same time you may have problems again.. cost on all 4 last time I checked was a little over $100. and of course replace the plugs at the same time... if you wait till one goes out the car will run like crap erratic idle spit and sputter and throw all kinds of codes... also when you change the coil packs check the aluminum mating surface(valve cover) for corrosion , this is how the coil is grounded... many people chase this simple problem... No one has mentioned the Timing belt... it is a must to change on the 1.8 turbo cars... Actually you change the timing belt, the water pump (with metal impeller) tensioner, and idler, all at the same time again 70k is when you want to start thinking about this, there is a really nice write up on the vortex... and the parts arent all that expensive ... most shops charge about 900 parts and labor to do this. I think parts are about $250-300... you must check injector seals also again a common leak area... very cheap and easy to repair the injector seals. I have over 100K on my TT and wouldnt hesitate to drive it across country tonight... the windows as mentioned earlier can be a problem if it is below freezing and you use the windows the ice can stick the window and snap plastic pieces in the door. I have head of them falling off track, but usually they act funny before this happens so you may have some warning that the parts are wearing and you should look into it before it falls out... I havent had any window problems in my TT.. I have a boost controller and water meth injection forge blow off valve,MAp bypass,it has the sport springs. you cant beat the sound of that turbo. oh and the power is nice too and All wheel drive.. Even thogh it shares the same platform as the golf and drive train as many other dubs you might check out a TT they usually arent much more than a VW, and thy arent as common, but I am biased ... I dont regret mine one bit....The TT has been my baby for the last 4-5 years, of course my new obsession is the 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) so it hasent had its usual mods or upgrades lately

Thanks Wayne. Good info and practical advice. I might be getting too old and fat to get in and out of a TT every day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Gint   SOT: Considering a MK2, 3 or 4 VW GTI for my new DD   Dec 15 2009, 04:57 PM
brant   Mike, which years are a mk4? We've had 2 go...   Dec 15 2009, 05:44 PM
Gint   Mike, which years are a mk4? We've had 2 go...   Dec 15 2009, 05:49 PM
Downunderman   I can thoroughly recommend a Mk 5 GTI if your budg...   Dec 15 2009, 05:49 PM
Gint   I can thoroughly recommend a Mk 5 GTI if your budg...   Dec 15 2009, 05:51 PM
sixnotfour   Then convert it to mid engine configuration; chec...   Dec 15 2009, 06:06 PM
Gint   Then convert it to mid engine configuration; chec...   Dec 15 2009, 06:23 PM
Scott Schroeder   Hi Mr Gint - I had a MKI and a MkII Gti. I beat th...   Dec 15 2009, 06:10 PM
Gint   Thanks Scotty! I had two MK2 Sciroccos and Co...   Dec 15 2009, 06:21 PM
Vacca Rabite   There were SERIOUS quality control issues on the M...   Dec 15 2009, 06:27 PM
Gint   There were SERIOUS quality control issues on the M...   Dec 15 2009, 06:35 PM
sendjonathanmail   I had a '99 Jetta (MK3), great car. It was a 2...   Dec 15 2009, 06:29 PM
rhcb914   I owned a 97 GTI VR6 Jazz Blue Drivers Edition tha...   Dec 15 2009, 08:20 PM
Gary   Had an '86 Jetta - $6k out the door new. ...   Dec 15 2009, 08:34 PM
dlo914   Ever thought about a VW Corrado VR6? Love how they...   Dec 15 2009, 08:52 PM
Gint   Ever thought about a VW Corrado VR6? Love how they...   Dec 15 2009, 09:41 PM
Gearhead1432   I've had MK IV VWs for a few years now. I put ...   Dec 15 2009, 09:19 PM
arvcube   Mk1s,2s, and 3s are easy to work on. good cars if ...   Dec 15 2009, 11:42 PM
wayne1234   What are you guys doing to your cars :woohoo: just...   Dec 16 2009, 01:12 AM
dlo914   Oh okay. In that case, i'd settle for a nice M...   Dec 16 2009, 01:15 AM
Gint   What are you guys doing to your cars :woohoo: just...   Dec 16 2009, 07:19 AM
Gint   Dlo, Appreciate it, but you don't have to sho...   Dec 16 2009, 07:41 AM
NS914   I don't want to spend a fortune and I don...   Dec 16 2009, 09:54 AM
jmill   I would look for a 1992 2.0 16v GTI :agree: ...   Dec 16 2009, 10:17 AM
Justin Fischer   I would look for a 1992 2.0 16v GTI Same here ...   Dec 16 2009, 11:54 AM
Gint   I thought for sure Cap'n Krusty would weigh in...   Dec 16 2009, 03:24 PM
tod914   Hey Gint, I had a 77 Scirocco and 1990 Corrado. T...   Dec 16 2009, 04:04 PM
Ferg   You know where I stand :D LOVED mine :headbange...   Dec 16 2009, 04:31 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Here I am, late to the party. NOTHING like the Mk...   Dec 16 2009, 05:59 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   A 2003 that has been problem-free since new, but t...   Dec 16 2009, 06:28 PM
r_towle   Not sure of your budget but a mid 90's bmw 5 s...   Dec 16 2009, 06:44 PM
Maltese Falcon   A couple bucks more and get into a used low mile...   Dec 16 2009, 08:15 PM
tod914   Here's an old shot I dug up from the 1977? Ne...   Dec 16 2009, 08:27 PM
Cap'n Krusty   2.0 FSI motors are explosions just waiting to happ...   Dec 16 2009, 08:47 PM
Gint   Mk1s vs MK2s being heavier cars are a fact of life...   Dec 16 2009, 09:51 PM
pete-stevers   Mike here are a few of my thoughts Steer clear of ...   Dec 16 2009, 11:29 PM
mbrown3039   I can't speak to the GTI, but I've had a ...   Dec 17 2009, 12:00 AM
al weidman   Gint, I inheireted a 2001 Jetta from my father in ...   Dec 17 2009, 12:48 AM
dlo914   E30 325is' are pretty fun straight out of the ...   Dec 17 2009, 03:54 AM
Mark Henry   Man, I better sell my '99 Passat fast...it has...   Dec 17 2009, 06:15 AM
johnnie5   Mike - I had an '86 Golf GL 4 door I bought in...   Dec 17 2009, 01:10 PM
Gint   I bought this and drove it home from Salt Lake. S...   Dec 19 2009, 01:37 AM
P.Rocket   Good choice! Mine works perfect for a daily co...   Dec 19 2009, 03:00 AM
P.Rocket   [quote name='P.Rocket' post='1252684' date='Dec 19...   Dec 19 2009, 02:02 PM
ghuff   You want a mk3 2.0 GTi and here is why: 1. A mk2 ...   Dec 19 2009, 07:12 AM


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