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| ghuff |
Dec 19 2009, 12:29 AM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well I have been staring at my 914 for a while, and contemplating options........
The reality has sunk in that I dont want another turbocharged car on standalone fuel injection. I saw the 2600$ price tag for the renegade hybrids LS1 kit. I am pretty much dead set on dumping a bone stock LS1 longblock into the car with an edelbrock carb manifold and a holley double pumper of some sort and the edelbrock/msd retro kit. I will convert to a high flow low pressure carb friendly pump and bam, I will never need more power. If I do, heads and cam will make an easy 450whp. Are there other options than the renegade hybrids kit? Who out there is using one? These questions are just a start, I am still wondering about chassis bracing and so forth as I don't feel like tearing my 914 apart after a few hundred miles of fun driving and autocross. |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Dec 19 2009, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,800 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States
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Pretty easy to do the 914 LSX conversion, Meziere now makes all of the componets for a remote electric water pump. They have the plates for the front water inlets and outlets and have a very nice remote inline thermostat housing.
These take most of the work out of doing the conversion. You can get machined plates to move the motor mounts on the LSX block to the same place as a SBC and then use the older type motor mounts.The cost on these is less than $40. These then line the block up with the stock 914 mount location. I would use a all aluminum L33 5.3 liter truck engine and add a LS1 intake and go with the fuel injection, Put a GM hot cam in it and a set of springs and your good for a 7000 rpm engine. By the way you can change the cam with the intake on the engine. You can find these in my area for $600 to $700 complete and under 50k miles. Cost would also be cheaper doing the fuel injection. If you use a carb and intake you would need a MSD igintion control. If you get all of this new it will be over $1000. Bob |
| ghuff |
Dec 20 2009, 10:30 AM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Pretty easy to do the 914 LSX conversion, Meziere now makes all of the componets for a remote electric water pump. They have the plates for the front water inlets and outlets and have a very nice remote inline thermostat housing. These take most of the work out of doing the conversion. Nice. What about the coolant hoses, and radiator shrouding? I suppose I could fab the shrouding myself and of course get two flexlite fans........ QUOTE You can get machined plates to move the motor mounts on the LSX block to the same place as a SBC and then use the older type motor mounts.The cost on these is less than $40. These then line the block up with the stock 914 mount location. I guess this allows the use of cheaper/earlier v8 conversion parts? Does anyone else make these besides renegade hybrids? Or these plates just let me bolt the motor to stock 914 mounts? If using the stock mounts, have you had any trouble murdering them with the torque and power of an LS1? QUOTE I would use a all aluminum L33 5.3 liter truck engine and add a LS1 intake and go with the fuel injection, Put a GM hot cam in it and a set of springs and your good for a 7000 rpm engine. By the way you can change the cam with the intake on the engine. You can find these in my area for $600 to $700 complete and under 50k miles. I have a buddy with an 1100hp drag camaro who went iron block and I can most likely get his stock block, heads, cam and everything super cheap. Like what you posted above! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE Cost would also be cheaper doing the fuel injection. If you use a carb and intake you would need a MSD igintion control. If you get all of this new it will be over $1000. If that is the case, then you are right. I will get his stock injectors and rails, then maybe grab a used ECU and harness to wire in. Wiring is no issue for me. QUOTE Bob So basically this can be done without the 2600$ renegade hybrids kit? I'm still questioning the ls1 to 901 bellhousing adapter, clutch stuff, and throttle linkage.......... Are there other companies that make these parts? What did you do for those? I appreciate any guidance, as single income with 2 kids and wife the less I spend the better, without cutting corners. If there is a good way without the renegade hybrids kit, then I will be all for it even if it requires a little more work. Could you post some pics of your LS1 monster? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
ghuff I am going LS1. 8 guys, please stop in.... Dec 19 2009, 12:29 AM
messix :Qarl: just throw the cam in it any way, your gon... Dec 19 2009, 12:41 AM
ghuff
:Qarl: just throw the cam in it any way, your go... Dec 19 2009, 12:49 AM
messix
:Qarl: just throw the cam in it any way, your g... Dec 19 2009, 12:52 AM
computers4kids
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But I want to keep the motor install minimal... Dec 19 2009, 08:14 AM
ghuff
[quote name='ghuff' post='1252648' date='Dec 18 2... Dec 19 2009, 08:32 AM
computers4kids
Sorry, but I have to disagree some. 300hp is more... Dec 20 2009, 10:18 AM
Vacca Rabite Why would you put in an LS1, but then carb it? Th... Dec 19 2009, 11:15 AM
ghuff
Why would you put in an LS1, but then carb it? T... Dec 19 2009, 11:44 AM
kg6dxn
Why would you put in an LS1, but then carb it? T... Dec 19 2009, 01:34 PM
zymurgist NASCAR fan? Dec 19 2009, 11:27 AM
shoguneagle Did this, done that, completed same!!... Dec 19 2009, 11:27 AM
byndbad914 consider going the 5.3 route as well for real budg... Dec 19 2009, 02:26 PM
ghuff
consider going the 5.3 route as well for real bud... Dec 19 2009, 06:15 PM
zymurgist Honestly... I'd buy a C5 Corvette and be drivi... Dec 19 2009, 06:21 PM
Rand
Honestly... I'd buy a C5 Corvette and be driv... Dec 21 2009, 08:40 PM
ghuff
Honestly... I'd buy a C5 Corvette and be dri... Dec 27 2009, 09:38 PM
jimkelly 914 + big power = street fun
fat tires and flairs... Dec 20 2009, 07:00 AM
ghuff
914 + big power = street fun
fat tires and flair... Dec 20 2009, 09:16 AM
charliew The adapter clutch and flywheel come from Kennedy ... Dec 20 2009, 11:03 AM
jimkelly a 5.3 thread
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh... Dec 21 2009, 03:25 PM
RJMII isn't the 996 Transaxle the same bolt pattern/... Dec 21 2009, 07:52 PM
RJMII Boxster S 6 speed:
996 transmission:
The... Dec 21 2009, 07:56 PM
andys It would be good to know if the bolt patterns are ... Dec 27 2009, 11:21 PM
RJMII I confirmed it with Brad and Jake. =o) the Boxster... Dec 28 2009, 12:45 PM
ghuff
I confirmed it with Brad and Jake. =o) the Boxste... Dec 28 2009, 01:20 PM
RJMII From what I've read (mostly in some of Jake... Dec 28 2009, 04:51 PM
pjhaun front. Jan 13 2010, 08:08 PM
Andyrew If you want a carbed SBC buy a carbed SBC, not an ... Jan 13 2010, 11:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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