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> 73 MY 914S Build Date Question, ...is it August or Sept 1972??
Tom_T
post Jan 19 2010, 10:23 PM
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Okay folks,

I've owned my early-73 MY 914-2.0 (914S for Pat G. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), and I looked at the VIN label on the driver's door jamb, but the build date could either be an "8" but missing one of the "punch-dots" in the left side of the lower loop, or a "9" with an "extra dot" (& don't ask about the COA - no help there).

... so which is it ???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I'm also aware of another 73 MY VIN 01102 built 9/72, & another on here VIN 01654 built 8/72 IIRC - & both are earlier VINs than mine - so did they build VINs out of date order?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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... and here's my project to restore - finally outside last Sunday before the "monsoon" hit!
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post Jan 23 2010, 06:56 PM
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The HC recall campaign to replace incorrect label dated 9/75 with labels dated 9/74 suggests that errors in the compliance decals did happen. It could be that the 08/72 beyond 1400 should have been 09/72. The month transition in 1971 & 1972 was about 0300 and in 1974 about 1600. The reality of the chassis numbers says that 08/72 is highly suspect on these cars.
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post Jan 23 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ Jan 23 2010, 04:56 PM) *

The HC recall campaign to replace incorrect label dated 9/75 with labels dated 9/74 suggests that errors in the compliance decals did happen. It could be that the 08/72 beyond 1400 should have been 09/72. The month transition in 1971 & 1972 was about 0300 and in 1974 about 1600. The reality of the chassis numbers says that 08/72 is highly suspect on these cars.


Dave, I don't know the chassis no. on 4732901650 also built in 8/72, but maybe Murray?ME733 can weigh in on that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

It might also help to have you post a pic of your list here, on the ones to which you're referring, to see if there is any enlightenment there.

Also remember that the 1973 MY was the largest production & sales numbers year for the 914 - as well as Porsche+Audi USA having a huge pent=up demand such that they diverted 2.0Ls on the final assembly line to US specs & delayed the 2.0's availabilityin Euro-land - so it would be expected that there could be more produced in the first production month of Aug. 72 for the 73 MY.

We now know from your lists & Jeff Bowlsby's LE Registry list & Sir Andy's explanations above, that the VIN's were NOT produced in order, nor apparently were chassis nos., due to varying demand for certain colors.

You'll note on the VIN sticker on mine, that it was over-painted with the bronze/Gold color which it was when I purchased it in Dec 1975 (& as advertised during the Fall of 75), which was a repaint/color change either by the PO/originalowner or dealer or latter at former's request. I'm the 2nd owner with continuous title since Dec. 1975, so I know that the sticker wasn't changed during my tenure (although painted over with both of my 8/76 & 5/80 color changes). Moreover, there is only the L80E Light Ivory under the one corner of it which I'd peeled back to check.

More likely & more logical than being an erroneous VIN sticker build date per se, is that they used the date when the shell was built by Karmann & stamped on 8/31/72 - then paint, shipping & final assembly probably actually took place during early Sept. 72 - but they ignored that & used 8/72 from the Chassis No. for the Build Date on the VIN sticker (or did so by policy??), with it thereafter shipped to the USA/California (IIRC it was about 30-60 days from the factory to the West Coast POE), & then first sold here in CA on 11/9/72 (according to my 1st & all subsequent CA registration cards) to the folks from whom I purchased it about 3 years later.

Murray's & Sir Andy's & your comments here & elsewhere about completed & painted shells being built out of numerical order based on customer/distributor demand probably explains why the Signal Orange 4732901102 & your examples above were built.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Maybe mine having been date stamped by Karmann on the last day of the month & the VIN/Build Date door sticker, perhaps sheds light that VW's final assembly plant actually based the latter sticker's build date on the chassis # rather than the final assembly completion & test drive date - or at least that they occasionally used the chassis date for the VIN sticker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Tom_T   73 MY 914S Build Date Question   Jan 19 2010, 10:23 PM
Tom_T   Here's the Karmann Plate with L80E & the C...   Jan 19 2010, 10:48 PM
sendjonathanmail   Hey Tom, that is definetly an 8/72 build date. Loo...   Jan 20 2010, 06:54 AM
Tom_T   Hey Tom, that is definetly an [b]8/72 build date....   Jan 20 2010, 06:37 PM
oldschool   [quote name='sendjonathanmail' post='1263683' dat...   Jan 21 2010, 02:08 AM
Tom_T   [quote name='sendjonathanmail' post='1263683' da...   Jan 21 2010, 04:58 AM
ME733   :popcorn: .....well TOM, I think it,s a ..8-1972 b...   Jan 20 2010, 06:36 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: .....well TOM, I think it,s a ..8-1972 ...   Jan 20 2010, 06:54 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: .....well TOM, I think it,s a ..8-1972 ...   Jan 20 2010, 07:27 PM
Tom_T   ...continued from last post .... [i]... cont. fr...   Jan 20 2010, 07:51 PM
smg914   I believe the color carpet in the Sahara Beige car...   Jan 20 2010, 11:30 PM
Tom_T   I believe the color carpet in the Sahara Beige ca...   Jan 20 2010, 11:48 PM
Tom_T   Soooo......what about the build dates vs. VIN orde...   Jan 20 2010, 11:59 PM
SirAndy   Soooo......what about the build dates vs. VIN ord...   Jan 21 2010, 07:17 PM
Tom_T   Soooo......what about the build dates vs. VIN or...   Jan 21 2010, 07:49 PM
ME733   :popcorn: TOM requarding out of sequence chassis n...   Jan 21 2010, 03:43 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: TOM requarding out of sequence chassis ...   Jan 21 2010, 04:28 PM
Tom_T   :WTF: . Since there's no build dates with the...   Jan 21 2010, 05:00 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   vin numbers were never assigned in order so the la...   Jan 21 2010, 05:07 PM
Tom_T   Interesting! :idea: ... was that only for c...   Jan 21 2010, 05:12 PM
SirAndy   Since there's no build dates with the Members...   Jan 21 2010, 07:12 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='Tom_T' post='1264367' date='Jan 21 2...   Jan 21 2010, 07:23 PM
Tom_T   Since there's no build dates with the Member...   Jan 21 2010, 07:33 PM
Tom_T   George - is mine an 8/72 or 9/72 on the door label...   Jan 21 2010, 05:16 PM
SirAndy   George - is mine an 8/72 or 9/72 on the door labe...   Jan 21 2010, 07:19 PM
Tom_T   George - is mine an 8/72 or 9/72 on the door lab...   Jan 21 2010, 07:55 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...TOM, my fog light switch (knob), (bez...   Jan 22 2010, 01:22 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: ...TOM, my fog light switch (knob), (be...   Jan 22 2010, 01:37 PM
Tom_T   A BIG THANX to you ALL ... for clarifying the bui...   Jan 22 2010, 01:48 PM
davep   Tom, sorry I'm late to the party, and thanks f...   Jan 23 2010, 02:34 PM
Tom_T   Tom, sorry I'm late to the party, and thanks ...   Jan 23 2010, 06:31 PM
SirAndy   Geez Louise!!! - either those Germans...   Jan 25 2010, 12:14 AM
Tom_T   Geez Louise!!! - either those German...   Jan 25 2010, 03:37 AM
SirAndy   I thought that VW Werk was in someplace like Osna...   Jan 25 2010, 10:19 PM
Tom_T   I thought that VW Werk was in someplace like Osn...   Jan 25 2010, 10:46 PM
davep   The HC recall campaign to replace incorrect label ...   Jan 23 2010, 06:56 PM
Tom_T   The HC recall campaign to replace incorrect label...   Jan 23 2010, 07:31 PM
Tom_T   :type: Okay, I finally found the old Samba FS lis...   Jan 23 2010, 09:00 PM
Tom_T   This is NOT a completely unmolested 914, as evid...   Jan 25 2010, 04:11 AM
Tom_T   ... other cleaned up labels, plates & stamping...   Jan 25 2010, 03:43 AM
Tom_T   ... other cleaned up labels, plates & stamping...   Jan 25 2010, 03:49 AM
ME733   TOM,.....I have the BLUE PLATE california tag, (w...   Jan 25 2010, 04:51 PM
Tom_T   TOM,.....I have the BLUE PLATE california tag, (...   Jan 25 2010, 05:07 PM
davep   The original chassis numbers, from start to mid-19...   Jan 25 2010, 08:35 PM
Tom_T   The original chassis numbers, from start to mid-1...   Jan 25 2010, 10:53 PM
Tom_T   <_< Another rust preventative measure that I...   Jan 26 2010, 05:21 AM


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