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| wayne1234 |
Jan 22 2010, 11:23 PM
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Ok dual webber carbed 2.0, I think the PO had the head vents running to a T then to the oil breather near the oil cap... Is this right?? I did a search and now I'm really confused,,,,
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| r_towle |
Jan 24 2010, 10:00 AM
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Cevan,
If you run the oil vapors into the carbs, its much cleaner in the engine bay, period. I will say the net result for me and my personal issue is that I have less oil in the engine bay now...but I found a leaking head vent tube while installing the system... With the exit gases routed to the carbs, I have this opinion. The drawback that IC is that now you are once again introducing oil into the A/F mixture which makes the burn less efficient. Spark plugs dont like oil, and IMHO you loose HP. If you use the original setup Foley makes yet run a hose from the top vent and relocate the exit of that vent somewhere outside of the engine bay, you will get the best of both worlds... Do not vent it in front of a wheel...oil vapor on one wheel would be bad. Older american cars just ran a hose with no filter down underneath the car and used the venturi affect to suck the vapors out of the hose. From personal experience, I just installed the EMPI/CB performance unit and I mounted it right in front of the motor, centered like Foley shows his. Well, guess what is right next to it. The electrical intake heater fan... This setup now sucks crankcase vapors (which are not just oil but blowby gases) into the passenger compartment... I was good for one trip to work and back...now I need to change the output. Headache, CO levels to high and I drove to work and back with the windows open in the winter...not a good setup. The EMPI/CB performance unit has a raised lid that allows the gases to escape all around the lid. I plan to mill off the raised standoffs and close the lid tight, then add a NPT pipe fitting to the top and remote locate a filter outside the engine bay....somewhere...dunno where. I wont shoot the vapors into the carbs, I need every spec of HP the little powerplant can produce and IC no logic in adding oil to the mix. My car will never be a green planet saver, nor will it single handedly deplete the ozone layer. I have all my DD cars running modern FI with all the restrictions. the 914 is a toy and is driven as a hobby car. Rich |
wayne1234 case and head vents Jan 22 2010, 11:23 PM
Cap'n Krusty Dumb. No, make that stupid. What ever possessed ... Jan 22 2010, 11:47 PM
wayne1234 This is a completly rebuilt engine I am just putti... Jan 23 2010, 12:05 AM
rick 918-S Someone will have photos for you. I wish I were as... Jan 23 2010, 12:22 AM
Racer Chris This is an install pic of the Tangerine Racing Bre... Jan 23 2010, 05:30 AM
Cevan I've seen these arrangements setup a couple of... Jan 23 2010, 07:29 AM
Racer Chris
Is it necessary to use the spark arrestor that th... Jan 23 2010, 08:37 AM
Gint Link to a 914world search for +head +vent
A searc... Jan 23 2010, 09:06 AM
pbanders Note that even the Tangerine solution, which is th... Jan 23 2010, 10:20 AM
ME733 [quote name='pbanders' date='Jan 23 20... Jan 23 2010, 01:45 PM
pbanders
THE INTERIOR of the air filter housing will have... Jan 23 2010, 03:35 PM
ME733
THE INTERIOR of the air filter housing will hav... Jan 24 2010, 07:24 AM
pbanders
.....................Well you have already explai... Jan 24 2010, 11:29 AM
wayne1234 Man I hate to say it but the setup going back into... Jan 23 2010, 08:54 PM
Racer Chris
Man I hate to say it but the setup going back int... Jan 23 2010, 10:35 PM
Cevan There being a ton of people on this forum running ... Jan 24 2010, 08:06 AM
Racer Chris
With the exit gases routed to the carbs, I have t... Jan 24 2010, 11:17 AM
wayne1234 ok how about this.. I know an my Audi TT a common ... Jan 24 2010, 10:53 PM
kg6dxn You could do what the V8 drag racers use. Crank ca... Jan 24 2010, 11:24 PM
ME733
You could do what the V8 drag racers use. Crank c... Jan 26 2010, 08:20 AM
johnnie5 Here are a few pics of my CB/Empi setup.... seems ... Jan 26 2010, 09:56 AM
Cap'n Krusty Rich Towle said earlier, "Older American cars... Jan 26 2010, 11:06 AM
ME733
Rich Towle said earlier, "Older American car... Jan 27 2010, 11:57 AM
DBCooper
Rich Towle said earlier, "Older American car... Jan 27 2010, 01:20 PM
Gint While I understand your point John and I agree wit... Jan 26 2010, 12:41 PM
Cap'n Krusty
While I understand your point John and I agree wi... Jan 27 2010, 01:58 PM
pbanders
[quote name='Gint' post='1265870' date='Jan 26 20... Jan 27 2010, 03:29 PM
Gint
[quote name='Gint' post='1265870' date='Jan 26 20... Jan 27 2010, 10:20 PM
underthetire
[quote name='Gint' post='1265870' date='Jan 26 20... Feb 1 2010, 05:03 PM
HAM Inc Oil runs cooler and returns to the crankcase faste... Jan 27 2010, 12:36 PM
bandjoey
Oil runs cooler and returns to the crankcase fast... Jan 27 2010, 06:04 PM
sean_v8_914 just drive across the border and you will experien... Jan 27 2010, 05:45 PM
jaxdream
Oil runs cooler and returns to the crankcase fas... Jan 27 2010, 06:14 PM
HAM Inc
It does do something; it slows the return of oil ... Jan 28 2010, 08:58 AM
John Jentz
It does do something; it slows the return of oil... Jan 28 2010, 09:31 AM

luvatenor
It does do something; it slows the return of oi... Feb 1 2010, 09:49 AM
Jake Raby
It does do something; it slows the return of oil... Feb 2 2010, 11:55 AM
bandjoey NO VENTS?
:popcorn: Feb 1 2010, 11:35 PM
jaxdream Ok , Len I'll give it a shot ( I am not an eng... Feb 1 2010, 11:57 PM
ME733 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,USE THE DAMN HEAD VENTS.........MURRA... Feb 2 2010, 09:40 AM
rhcb914 Well if the oil is staying in the heads for a long... Feb 2 2010, 09:40 AM
ME733 ..........USE THE DAMN HEAD VENTS.....Because, the... Feb 2 2010, 10:09 AM
HAM Inc
Bingo! Now put some thought into why the oil ... Feb 2 2010, 11:36 AM
Cevan I can see why with a vented head, oil in that area... Feb 2 2010, 01:03 PM
Jake Raby With less head breathing from the valve covers the... Feb 2 2010, 01:23 PM
HAM Inc The pressure in the crankcase at large is generate... Feb 2 2010, 01:53 PM
Cevan I see that the 1.8 L-Jet motor uses a 22mm hose fr... Feb 2 2010, 01:55 PM
ME733 ............What in the hell...!!!... Feb 2 2010, 03:45 PM
HAM Inc I'm not intersted in argueing with anyone, but... Feb 2 2010, 05:01 PM
bandjoey Letter from a getting old fart.
Dear Murray: Thi... Feb 2 2010, 05:12 PM
jaxdream Ok , Len , I came out of the rootcellar , don... Feb 2 2010, 05:15 PM
Gint Ok , Len , I came out of the rootcellar , don... Feb 3 2010, 07:37 AM
jaxdream Mods , don't lock this thread yet ......
Jack... Feb 2 2010, 05:18 PM
bandjoey Ditto's. More.
Vent it from the chimney means... Feb 2 2010, 05:21 PM
ME733
Ditto's. More.
Vent it from the chimney mean... Feb 2 2010, 06:15 PM
Cevan
Ditto's. More.
Vent it from the chimney mean... Feb 2 2010, 07:36 PM
bandjoey
Ditto's. More.
Vent it from the chimney mea... Feb 2 2010, 07:41 PM
Jake Raby
WOW, another one of those guys that have continu... Feb 2 2010, 08:46 PM
Jake Raby BTW- Murray which Type 4 engines came from the fac... Feb 2 2010, 08:52 PM
johnnie5 :popcorn: Feb 2 2010, 09:19 PM
jaxdream Ok, Jake and / or Len , would a setup running off... Feb 2 2010, 11:24 PM
ME733 ..........Ok , I shall continue to point out the a... Feb 3 2010, 08:47 AM
HAM Inc A single central vent from the chimney needs to be... Feb 3 2010, 08:51 AM
Jake Raby I was expecting a much more dramatic reply from Mu... Feb 3 2010, 09:05 AM
HAM Inc You know Murray, for a guy who was building engine... Feb 3 2010, 09:14 AM
type11969
And I will point out to you that I have nothing t... Feb 3 2010, 09:27 AM
ME733
You know Murray, for a guy who was building engin... Feb 3 2010, 09:51 AM
type11969 Murray ? ? ? ? what would Jake and Len have to gai... Feb 3 2010, 09:24 AM
Jake Raby
Murray ? ? ? ? what would Jake and Len have to ga... Feb 3 2010, 09:31 AM
type11969 .....:popcorn: thanks :popcorn:...... Feb 3 2010, 09:34 AM
Jake Raby You know...
Last night after Murray made his comme... Feb 3 2010, 11:01 AM
Rand
Murray, put your money where your mouth is. Build... Feb 3 2010, 11:02 AM
HAM Inc Good work Jake! But I can't but help wonde... Feb 3 2010, 12:13 PM
ME733
Good work Jake! But I can't but help wond... Feb 3 2010, 04:28 PM
wayne1234 Wow, I just wanted to clean up my engine bay, Jake... Feb 3 2010, 02:33 PM
Jake Raby
Wow, I just wanted to clean up my engine bay, Jak... Feb 3 2010, 02:37 PM
ME733 ...Well jake arn't you special. Just like the ... Feb 3 2010, 03:52 PM
McMark If you care to continue the debate, take it into P... Feb 3 2010, 04:18 PM
HAM Inc
:trophy:
Great call McMark. Feb 3 2010, 04:25 PM
Jake Raby McMark is right. Murray, if you want to keep argui... Feb 3 2010, 04:47 PM
ME733
McMark is right. Murray, if you want to keep argu... Feb 3 2010, 06:38 PM
Jake Raby
McMark is right. Murray, if you want to keep arg... Feb 3 2010, 08:01 PM
SirAndy :sleep:
What did i miss? :chow: Feb 3 2010, 04:48 PM
HAM Inc Nothing go back to sleep! Feb 3 2010, 05:58 PM
Twystd1 This is a great thread.
I am learning a lot about... Feb 3 2010, 06:10 PM
ME733 ..........Well the only thing you missed was ... a... Feb 3 2010, 06:33 PM
r_towle Some people built racing motors before the Interne... Feb 3 2010, 08:28 PM
pbanders
So, Early Djet has head vents.
Later Djet does no... Feb 3 2010, 10:03 PM
904svo They had to meet the EPA requirements on Hyro carb... Feb 3 2010, 09:06 PM
jaxdream <_<
Jack / jaxdream Feb 3 2010, 11:55 PM
luvatenor Hi- I have a single Weber conversion. Where would ... Feb 4 2010, 05:03 AM
McMark The vents on the oil filler and the heads (if appl... Feb 4 2010, 05:28 PM
ConeDodger Wow. I guess we have figured out how to get a lot ... Feb 4 2010, 05:51 PM
HAM Inc
Who's pissed? I have nothing but love for eve... Feb 5 2010, 10:37 AM
ConeDodger
Who's pissed? I have nothing but love for ev... Feb 5 2010, 10:45 AM
ME733 ............Good grief.....the number of brainwash... Feb 5 2010, 11:16 AM
rtalich
............Good grief.....the number of brainwas... Feb 5 2010, 11:50 AM
ME733
............Good grief.....the number of brainwa... Feb 5 2010, 12:29 PM
HAM Inc
Rob your heads will be front and center here shor... Feb 5 2010, 12:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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