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> Who can i send my T4 heads to, Len does not want to rebuild anymore
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:57 AM
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I just got a email from Len Hoffman today. He is focused on producing new Heads, not rebuilding used ones anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Every time i do a search, it always leads to LEN. Who can I send my 2.0 heads to now?? I need to get on this 2056 build.

any other recomendations???

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post Jan 27 2010, 03:57 PM
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Jake, I don't think that's a fair analogy. there are still heads out there that are usable, and there are still machine-work artists like Len, Mark, Wes, Adrian, etc. who can still make rebuilt heads work for rebuilt, extended-life engines for driver/cruiser or even racer applications. it might not be a perfect solution, but it is a real-world solution. and even if it's "only" $500 more for new heads... that $500 may be the breaking point over a engine budget that is already stretched thin... but I don't think they are the equivalent to a re-treaded truck tire.
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post Jan 27 2010, 05:12 PM
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Jake, I don't think that's a fair analogy. there are still heads out there that are usable, and there are still machine-work artists like Len, Mark, Wes, Adrian, etc. who can still make rebuilt heads work for rebuilt, extended-life engines for driver/cruiser or even racer applications. it might not be a perfect solution, but it is a real-world solution. and even if it's "only" $500 more for new heads... that $500 may be the breaking point over a engine budget that is already stretched thin... but I don't think they are the equivalent to a re-treaded truck tire.



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) unless your saying up until now you've been selling retread heads for big money. I doubt that's the case.

I have three chevy shops around here I have had do machine work for me. I have to bring them all the specs for the engine work I want done but they have a couple tools in their shops that can make new holes and install new parts and cut stuff.

I've had type IV heads done at one shop by a red haired gurl with glasses as thick as coke bottles but she never makes a mistake. EVER!

I've been talked into bringing a head for one of my BMW 2002's to a hi-po big money machine shop that builds record holding engines for drag cars. The head was returned shaved like a wedge! No shit! like a wedge! So noticable you could visably see the difference from the #1 cylinder to the #4 cylinder. I had to bring it up to the local chevy shop and beg the red haired gurl to fix it while staring at my shoes... I don't care what your rep is everyone has a bad day.

I brought my 928 heads to a highly recommended 928 porsche head guy. I drove 6 hrs to personally deliver my unobtainium euro "s" heads to him. The guy tried to trade me a set of low compression US spec heads with small valves and ports under the giess they were fresh off his race car... Do I have dumb ass written on my forehead? No thanks I just want MY heads done.

I was off talking to his assistant My wife was writting him a check for a down payment that was supposed to be 150.00. When we left she told me the check was 450.00.

Then the email came the cost to repair my heads was 1200.00.... sure you don't just want to trade me those junk heads for my race car heads?

I had them shipped back to me and brought them to the next highly recommended "Porsche machine shop guy" 180 miles from home. Heads were repaired freshed for 450.00.

I had a cam break and cause an engine failure. Broken valve punched through the head real bad. I was refered to a high end bling shop180 miles from home. I walked in and was stopped at the door and instructed to put my head in a cart next to the door by Mr. White gloves. This place would make the hospital look like the land fill! Leave the head and we will call you with an estimate. An hour later....ring... Ring.. Ya Rick this is Mr. White gloves.. Ya that head is going to cost $ 900.00 to fix.

Rick: did you measure the head to see if there is any room to cut it again?

Mr White Gloves: Measure it how do I measure it?

Rick: never mind I'll be back there in ten minutes to pick it up.

Head went to the chevy shop and was welded, new seats in the damaged chamber, dressed and matched to the other head, which BTW was discovered to be cut like a wedge by the "Porsche machinist" AS I stated even the best bling boys can have a bad day. That's twice... Chevy shop repaired my mangled head and matched "cc'd" the other head for..... drum roll please...... Price $ 350.00!

Here's the head. Just to show you there are guys out there that can still repair stuff. The stem is about 1 1/2" punched right through the hardened seat and through the water jacket into the port.

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jsayre914   Who can i send my T4 heads to   Jan 25 2010, 10:57 AM
Vacca Rabite   Call Bug World in Yoe. The guy is back working mo...   Jan 25 2010, 11:08 AM
Mark Henry   Problem I got was guys wanting the work done then ...   Jan 25 2010, 11:11 AM
StratPlayer   I think this outfit is under new managment. Good ...   Jan 25 2010, 11:16 AM
tat2dphreak   you can call lyle cherry (I don't have his #, ...   Jan 25 2010, 11:23 AM
Tonyiz   I just got a email from Len Hoffman today. He is ...   Jan 25 2010, 11:28 AM
Vacca Rabite   I think last year I heard that RIMCO was no onger ...   Jan 25 2010, 12:39 PM
Jake Raby   Rimco does good seat installations but not finish ...   Jan 25 2010, 01:36 PM
johnnie5   The only person I have found to do work worth a h...   Jan 26 2010, 09:40 AM
904svo   Do yourself a favor and buy new heads from Jake, f...   Jan 25 2010, 01:45 PM
Randal   I would recommend Len over anyone, but if he isn...   Jan 25 2010, 01:46 PM
hydroliftin   I would recommend Len over anyone, but if he isn...   Jan 25 2010, 02:21 PM
Randal   I would recommend Len over anyone, but if he isn...   Jan 25 2010, 02:24 PM
kconway   European Motor Works in Hawthorne, CA. Jorge can ...   Jan 25 2010, 01:51 PM
Sleepin   Al Johnsen at AJRS ((970) 245-8685) here in Colora...   Jan 25 2010, 02:26 PM
kwales   That sucks. So does that mean Len won't do wo...   Jan 25 2010, 02:41 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Walt Watson, Competition Engineering, Lake Isabell...   Jan 25 2010, 03:05 PM
rick 918-S   Just for the sake of asking, what is the cost for ...   Jan 25 2010, 03:12 PM
914Sixer   I just checked Autohausaz.com for 2.0 Bus heads. ...   Jan 25 2010, 03:30 PM
Jake Raby   We buy new castings and then totally strip them of...   Jan 25 2010, 04:25 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   In January 2008 I purchased a pair of Leading Edge...   Jan 25 2010, 04:48 PM
pete-stevers   Do yourself a favor and buy new heads from Jake, ...   Jan 25 2010, 04:59 PM
HAM Inc   Sorry to drop this bomb on you guys! It has be...   Jan 25 2010, 06:33 PM
HAM Inc   I should also point out to anyone who currently ha...   Jan 25 2010, 06:35 PM
jsayre914   I do understand where you are comming from, and I ...   Jan 25 2010, 06:43 PM
Brando   FAT Performance in Santa Ana, CA. Just be sure to...   Jan 25 2010, 09:27 PM
rick 918-S   So are you saying a basic set of new heads for a s...   Jan 25 2010, 09:40 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   So are you saying a basic set of new heads for a ...   Jan 25 2010, 09:59 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   So are you saying a basic set of new heads for a...   Jan 25 2010, 10:18 PM
rick 918-S   I guess my question is do they have to cost ...   Jan 25 2010, 10:28 PM
904svo   The heads are AMC heads made for a bus engine, Len...   Jan 25 2010, 11:10 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   The heads are AMC heads made for a bus engine, Le...   Jan 26 2010, 06:44 AM
Mark Henry   The heads are AMC heads made for a bus engine, L...   Jan 26 2010, 07:45 AM
Jake Raby   Yes, they DO have to cost that much.. The cost of ...   Jan 26 2010, 08:34 AM
rick 918-S   Since Len has done away with the rebuilding of ...   Jan 26 2010, 09:53 AM
HAM Inc   No prices will be posted by Jake or I on this foru...   Jan 26 2010, 10:22 AM
johnnie5   No prices will be posted by Jake or I on this for...   Jan 26 2010, 10:41 AM
ericread   No prices will be posted by Jake or I on this for...   Jan 26 2010, 11:01 AM
Mark Henry   Here's what I charged. Cost per head would be ...   Jan 26 2010, 10:43 AM
HAM Inc   Now for a brief introduction to the AMC castings. ...   Jan 26 2010, 10:50 AM
HAM Inc   Always per pair.   Jan 26 2010, 11:06 AM
ericread   Always per pair. Whew! :huh: That real...   Jan 26 2010, 11:21 AM
tat2dphreak   :agree: with Mark's estimates being around ...   Jan 26 2010, 11:17 AM
Larouex   This is a fascinating thread to me. I planned to d...   Jan 26 2010, 11:21 AM
RoadGlue   There are still usable used 2.0 castings out there...   Jan 26 2010, 12:41 PM
rick 918-S   There are still usable used 2.0 castings out ther...   Jan 26 2010, 12:54 PM
Jake Raby   I understand that it's usually easier and l...   Jan 26 2010, 04:18 PM
Chris Hamilton   We also don't recommend that our purchasers ...   Jan 26 2010, 05:40 PM
RoadGlue   I'd also like to point out that I've never...   Jan 26 2010, 12:45 PM
RobW   Both Randy and Jake make good points, but don...   Jan 26 2010, 04:25 PM
McMark   Rob, I agree, but I would say 'surprised',...   Jan 26 2010, 05:17 PM
jmill   I think all of us can see the point. I don't ...   Jan 26 2010, 05:29 PM
HAM Inc   I agree with everything Jake just said and some of...   Jan 26 2010, 05:39 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I agree, it's been nearly 3 decades since I la...   Jan 26 2010, 06:44 PM
r_towle   I agree, it's been nearly 3 decades since I l...   Jan 26 2010, 11:53 PM
kwales   I dunnow..... There might be virgins in the world...   Jan 26 2010, 07:08 PM
tat2dphreak   is that Rust on your suspension ear?   Jan 26 2010, 07:41 PM
kwales   Jup, It matches the rest of the car. However, ...   Jan 26 2010, 08:16 PM
Jake Raby   Those aren't virgins.. They've had exhaust...   Jan 26 2010, 08:38 PM
Dr Evil   I might be interested in picking up Mark's hea...   Jan 27 2010, 01:15 AM
Jake Raby   Rich, You are assuming way too much in your post. ...   Jan 27 2010, 08:19 AM
sean_v8_914   ...and its hard to plan shop loading when worms ke...   Jan 27 2010, 08:31 AM
sean_v8_914   untill you have done it, its difficult to really u...   Jan 27 2010, 08:33 AM
HAM Inc   If you don't think aluminum castings fatique y...   Jan 27 2010, 09:29 AM
tat2dphreak   I think there can still be usable heads out there,...   Jan 27 2010, 10:26 AM
Jake Raby   Just so happens that I am scrapping 50+ pair of co...   Jan 27 2010, 10:43 AM
pete-stevers   hey Jake, Len how bout some head porn.... :D   Jan 27 2010, 11:14 AM
tat2dphreak   don't google that if you are at work, btw.....   Jan 27 2010, 11:33 AM
DBCooper   Unfortunately when a set of heads needed for an en...   Jan 27 2010, 02:52 PM
Jake Raby   Heck, thats the same thing thats happening with ...   Jan 27 2010, 03:11 PM
tat2dphreak   the list is still a useful idea. I'll also s...   Jan 27 2010, 03:17 PM
Jake Raby   The list is a necessary item for reference. No mat...   Jan 27 2010, 03:30 PM
tat2dphreak   Jake, I don't think that's a fair analogy....   Jan 27 2010, 03:57 PM
rick 918-S   Jake, I don't think that's a fair analogy...   Jan 27 2010, 05:12 PM
zig-n-zag   What value can I place on a pair of Virgin NOS Typ...   Jan 27 2010, 04:46 PM
agentblr   If you guy's want to start that List I have on...   Jan 27 2010, 04:49 PM
Jake Raby   Sure they are... One of my customers is in that b...   Jan 27 2010, 05:27 PM
RoadGlue   There's a market for the shiny new heads that ...   Jan 27 2010, 05:40 PM
ME733   .....SO what are the seat and valve sizes in the N...   Jan 27 2010, 05:41 PM
Jake Raby   .....SO what are the seat and valve sizes in the ...   Jan 27 2010, 06:00 PM
bobhasissues   Ouch!!! I've had my eye on a set ...   Jan 27 2010, 06:42 PM
Jake Raby   The price of the LE 180 heads will be changing in ...   Jan 27 2010, 07:27 PM
396   The price of the LE 180 heads will be changing in...   Jan 27 2010, 10:00 PM
pete-stevers   Ouch!!! I've had my eye on a set...   Jan 27 2010, 07:45 PM
Jake Raby   Ouch!!! I've had my eye on a se...   Jan 27 2010, 08:35 PM
DBCooper   But why buy a Miata when you can buy a Boxster fo...   Jan 27 2010, 09:26 PM
Jake Raby   But why buy a Miata when you can buy a Boxster f...   Jan 27 2010, 09:52 PM
RJMII   I dunno... I kind of appreciate what Len and Jake ...   Jan 27 2010, 09:57 PM
DBCooper   I appreciate it too, and no disrespect was express...   Jan 27 2010, 10:19 PM
RJMII   I appreciate it too, and no disrespect was expres...   Jan 27 2010, 10:25 PM
mepstein   I appreciate it too, and no disrespect was expres...   Jan 27 2010, 10:33 PM
Jake Raby   I appreciate it too, and no disrespect was expres...   Jan 27 2010, 10:46 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   I appreciate it too, and no disrespect was expre...   Jan 28 2010, 07:21 AM
sean_v8_914   another problem that greatly influences cost on ou...   Jan 28 2010, 09:17 AM
sean_v8_914   I guess what i meant to say is that economic viabi...   Jan 28 2010, 09:19 AM
Jake Raby   The economy hasn't impacted us at all when it ...   Jan 28 2010, 09:24 AM
OU8AVW   I just dropped mine off with Jan Norris. His shop ...   Jan 28 2010, 09:33 AM
StratPlayer   I had sent an email to Rimco asking if they were u...   Jan 28 2010, 10:13 AM
Jake Raby   If you call Rimco, just talk to Todd... I've k...   Jan 28 2010, 10:27 AM
sean_v8_914   strat: did you give rimc opportunity to make it r...   Jan 28 2010, 10:44 AM
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