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> My chassis twisted hardcore
turnaround89
post Feb 17 2010, 08:04 PM
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I braced the chassis, but obviously not enough. I lined the doors up properly, had the gaps correct, and then put the braces in. I took the braces out today, and went to test fit the passenger door and it won't even come close to shutting. the door lock does not line up, i tried adjusting the hinges but had no luck. The things are way off....any one have a fix? I really don't want to buy a tub because i just put a ton of work into this one. If it comes down to buying a tub, i guess thats what ill have to do, but i really would like to avoid that.
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post Feb 26 2010, 03:56 PM
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update: the drivers side door fits properly, shimmed the bottom and it works the way it should. All i have to worry about now is getting the passenger side door to shut and the targa top to fit correctly. I know the problem with the targa top is the the car actually rotated on an axis slightly. The top latches securely with three latches, but the passenger side one won't line up. You can also see the top overhangs the rollbar on the passenger side and doesn't line up there. My question is should i start with the targa top first and get that to fit correctly or work on the door? Either way i have to cut out some metal, just wondering if one should be done before the other.

My plan to get the targa top to fit would be to push under the corner of the car and rotate the car back the other direction. Cut the car almost in half(leave the center tunnel alone and intact), but the floor pans and longs would be cut. Then with a bottle jack, jack up the opposite side of the car(drivers side) rotating the chassis back into alignment. Measuring along the way from rollbar to door hinge plate, so things line up.

For the door, it would be similar but jacking the car apart parallel to the door opening itself. Since the door hangs down, at the back, having the car twisted back into alignment should fix, if not repair, that problem. I know the door opening has to be pushed further apart because the triangular window hits the windshield frame. This is where jacking the car apart in the door opening comes in, jack the car apart, somehow hold that spacing and place the door back on and make sure everything lines up.

I am open to any comments anyone has to modify my methods. I thought i would start this next week, but i have spring break from the 8th thru the 12th, plenty of time then to work on this.
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(turnaround89 @ Feb 26 2010, 03:56 PM) *

update: the drivers side door fits properly, shimmed the bottom and it works the way it should. All i have to worry about now is getting the passenger side door to shut and the targa top to fit correctly. I know the problem with the targa top is the the car actually rotated on an axis slightly. The top latches securely with three latches, but the passenger side one won't line up. You can also see the top overhangs the rollbar on the passenger side and doesn't line up there. My question is should i start with the targa top first and get that to fit correctly or work on the door? Either way i have to cut out some metal, just wondering if one should be done before the other.

My plan to get the targa top to fit would be to push under the corner of the car and rotate the car back the other direction. Cut the car almost in half(leave the center tunnel alone and intact), but the floor pans and longs would be cut. Then with a bottle jack, jack up the opposite side of the car(drivers side) rotating the chassis back into alignment. Measuring along the way from rollbar to door hinge plate, so things line up.

For the door, it would be similar but jacking the car apart parallel to the door opening itself. Since the door hangs down, at the back, having the car twisted back into alignment should fix, if not repair, that problem. I know the door opening has to be pushed further apart because the triangular window hits the windshield frame. This is where jacking the car apart in the door opening comes in, jack the car apart, somehow hold that spacing and place the door back on and make sure everything lines up.

I am open to any comments anyone has to modify my methods. I thought i would start this next week, but i have spring break from the 8th thru the 12th, plenty of time then to work on this.



Let me try to break this down for you if I can. Porsche doors don't get shims. If the door required shims on the lower hinge the car is bent.

Here's a crude drawing of what you should try based on your discription.

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Get a hand pump port-o-power and carefully set it up in the car. The lower should be on top of the long in the corner against the rear bulkhead. The other end should be against a wood block about the height of the upper hinge. Take a mm tape measure and check your progress.
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turnaround89   My chassis twisted hardcore   Feb 17 2010, 08:04 PM
nykthebartender   How much is way off? You can shim the door hinges ...   Feb 17 2010, 08:24 PM
scotty b   If the latch is out, how does the door line up wit...   Feb 17 2010, 08:26 PM
rick 918-S   :ttiwwp:   Feb 17 2010, 08:29 PM
yeahmag   Yeah... Take the striker out and close the door. S...   Feb 17 2010, 08:32 PM
J P Stein   I did something similar wheb installing my cage. W...   Feb 17 2010, 08:33 PM
SirAndy   went to test fit the passenger door and it won...   Feb 17 2010, 08:52 PM
bobhasissues   What were you welding? Engman kit Clamshells Other...   Feb 17 2010, 08:54 PM
McMark   :agree: we need a bunch more info/pics.   Feb 17 2010, 09:31 PM
turnaround89   I welded in clamshells over the longs and also put...   Feb 17 2010, 10:23 PM
davesprinkle   That sucks. The only real option is to cut a few ...   Feb 17 2010, 11:00 PM
turnaround89   the weirdest part is that the door hangs low at th...   Feb 17 2010, 11:25 PM
davesprinkle   the weirdest part is that the door hangs low at t...   Feb 17 2010, 11:41 PM
rick 918-S   Don't bend the door! Fix the chassis. If y...   Feb 18 2010, 08:21 AM
sean_v8_914   yup. show teh good chassis doctor your set up, bra...   Feb 18 2010, 09:30 AM
rick 918-S   I'm like 400 miles from you. (6 hrs) But I hav...   Feb 19 2010, 12:31 AM
ghuff   Pics. You can recover from this.   Feb 19 2010, 09:26 AM
Eric_Shea   http://www.914world.com/specs/bodydims.php Find o...   Feb 19 2010, 10:39 AM
Krank   Has anyone tried bonding stiffner panels in with t...   Feb 19 2010, 10:57 AM
yeahmag   That's a really interesting idea...   Feb 19 2010, 11:01 AM
kwales   Wouldn't do it. They are designed for adherin...   Feb 19 2010, 12:35 PM
Rod   I can't offer help as I haven't been here,...   Feb 19 2010, 02:41 PM
turnaround89   So the windshield frame has come back towards the ...   Feb 20 2010, 01:07 AM
Dave_Darling   Brad Mayeur at 914 Limited should have some idea o...   Feb 20 2010, 02:46 AM
rick 918-S   Brad Mayeur at 914 Limited should have some idea ...   Feb 20 2010, 07:31 AM
turnaround89   I have no problems towing the car to have it fixed...   Feb 20 2010, 11:24 AM
Eric_Shea   Very powerful hydraulics. You may still need to m...   Feb 20 2010, 11:35 AM
Eric_Shea   Also, that window frame doesn't really do ...   Feb 20 2010, 11:44 AM
gopack   I just did a Google search for "celette bench...   Feb 20 2010, 11:52 AM
jcambo7   I just did a Google search for "celette benc...   Feb 20 2010, 07:46 PM
rick 918-S   I just did a Google search for "celette benc...   Feb 20 2010, 08:23 PM
turnaround89   What makes the celette better than othe racks? Al...   Feb 21 2010, 10:24 PM
rick 918-S   What makes the celette better than othe racks? A...   Feb 21 2010, 10:46 PM
SirAndy   Lots more pix ... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/in...   Feb 21 2010, 11:15 PM
Jeff Hail   The shop in the photos is Ed Palmer's. Aka EPR...   Feb 21 2010, 11:30 PM
turnaround89   Sir andy - if you don't mind me asking, how mu...   Feb 21 2010, 11:32 PM
SirAndy   Sir andy - if you don't mind me asking, how m...   Feb 21 2010, 11:51 PM
turnaround89   does the place doing the chassis alignment rent th...   Feb 22 2010, 12:18 AM
SirAndy   does the place doing the chassis alignment rent t...   Feb 22 2010, 12:26 AM
rick 918-S   does the place doing the chassis alignment rent t...   Feb 22 2010, 12:56 AM
rick 918-S   does the place doing the chassis alignment rent ...   Feb 22 2010, 01:08 PM
SirAndy   Your inquiry just prompted me to do something I h...   Feb 22 2010, 01:16 PM
turnaround89   Found a body shop in my area with a celette bench,...   Feb 22 2010, 11:54 AM
rick 918-S   Found a body shop in my area with a celette bench...   Feb 22 2010, 12:12 PM
carr914   Turnaround, What happened to the pictures you were...   Feb 22 2010, 01:35 PM
turnaround89   the pictures were on an external hard drive which ...   Feb 22 2010, 02:23 PM
rick 918-S   the pictures were on an external hard drive which...   Feb 22 2010, 02:34 PM
turnaround89   right now were beginning to pull apart portions of...   Feb 22 2010, 04:47 PM
rick 918-S   I heard back from the shop. I really couldn't ...   Feb 22 2010, 05:51 PM
SirAndy   :WTF: I don't get it... Think about it ... ...   Feb 22 2010, 05:53 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I braced the chassis, but obviously not enough. ...   Feb 22 2010, 06:14 PM
turnaround89   Id have to tow the car down to georgia, and that w...   Feb 22 2010, 06:38 PM
scotty b   Rick, how about getting access to the one you know...   Feb 23 2010, 06:57 PM
r_towle   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ F...   Feb 23 2010, 10:47 PM
rick 918-S   B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE...   Feb 24 2010, 12:04 AM
shaggy   how thick were the plates you welded on? regardles...   Feb 24 2010, 12:23 AM
rick 918-S   I'm near a deal on the Celette. :shades2:   Feb 25 2010, 06:28 PM
turnaround89   so heres the plan that we finally came up with. M...   Feb 25 2010, 07:04 PM
rick 918-S   so heres the plan that we finally came up with. ...   Feb 25 2010, 07:10 PM
sixnotfour   Rick , I hope you get a bench , AArron @ Fat Six h...   Feb 25 2010, 09:25 PM
9146986   I have an old Blackhawk bench, that I'm nearly...   Feb 26 2010, 09:03 AM
rick 918-S   I have an old Blackhawk bench, that I'm nearl...   Feb 26 2010, 10:17 AM
9146986   Thanks Rick! I felt kinda stupid after my pos...   Feb 26 2010, 12:40 PM
9146986   Didn't someone copy the fixture dimensions in ...   Feb 26 2010, 12:46 PM
SirAndy   Didn't someone copy the fixture dimensions in...   Feb 26 2010, 03:48 PM
turnaround89   update: the drivers side door fits properly, shimm...   Feb 26 2010, 03:56 PM
rick 918-S   update: the drivers side door fits properly, shim...   Feb 26 2010, 07:02 PM
turnaround89   that is exactly what my passenger side door looks ...   Feb 26 2010, 10:41 PM
rick 918-S   Here's another crude sketch. I assume you used...   Feb 26 2010, 11:21 PM
turnaround89   what your saying is fixing the door, should also f...   Feb 26 2010, 11:49 PM
rick 918-S   what your saying is fixing the door, should also ...   Feb 27 2010, 08:02 AM
turnaround89   I want to give a big thanks to everyone that helpe...   Mar 4 2010, 02:41 PM
rick 918-S   So tell us what you did! :sawzall: :smash: :...   Mar 4 2010, 03:57 PM
drive-ability   I second that above request :agree: :smash: Gre...   Mar 4 2010, 06:14 PM
turnaround89   i did exactly what rick told me to do, i used a bo...   Mar 4 2010, 06:21 PM
rick 918-S   i did exactly what rick told me to do, i used a b...   Mar 4 2010, 06:36 PM
Jon Fernandes   :trophy:   Mar 4 2010, 06:27 PM
turnaround89   Once again a BIG THANK YOU to everyone that has he...   Mar 4 2010, 08:10 PM
markb   :beer2:   Mar 4 2010, 10:18 PM


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