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> Valve lash, With WEBCAM #494
jeffdon
post Mar 13 2010, 06:09 PM
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Ran the 2056 on the stand for a last time to get the oil warm, and do the initial change, and get her ready for installation. Did another valve check. Which got me to thinking.

I am setting it to the spec that came with the cam, .006 for both exhaust and intake. Lift (.465) and duration (280 deg.) are the same for both valves.

Question is, if exhaust valves expand more due to heat than intake, why does webcam recommend .006 for both? Why not .006 and .008 as is standard?

It SEEMS to be running pretty well, but I know i have a good deal of fooling around with jets and such once its on the road and i can test her under load. At one point at about 3500 rpm it started firing back through No 4., but that was right about the time i was running out of gas in my temp. tank. I shut it off, and got a big pop and some flame out the tail pipe.

I would really like address/double check anything now, as its way easier accesing things on the stands.
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Jake Raby
post Mar 14 2010, 07:10 PM
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I'd expect that you didn't carry out any valvetrain geometry procedures?? I've never seen a 494 come close to optimizing with a stock length pushrod.

The 494 has a fast ramp, it must have geometry carried out to prevent valvetrain wear, especially valve guides.
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Mar 14 2010, 06:10 PM) *

I'd expect that you didn't carry out any valvetrain geometry procedures?? I've never seen a 494 come close to optimizing with a stock length pushrod.

The 494 has a fast ramp, it must have geometry carried out to prevent valvetrain wear, especially valve guides.



I did a dry assembly and did a quick and dirty visual check of the adjuster/pushrod relation, and it looked pretty well aligned throughout its cycle. Then again, i only looked at one cylinder and just assumed that it would be the same for all others. Probably hosed myself on that one, but at this point, I dont think i want to pull her apart again.
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(jeffdon @ Mar 16 2010, 10:53 AM) *

QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Mar 14 2010, 06:10 PM) *

I'd expect that you didn't carry out any valvetrain geometry procedures?? I've never seen a 494 come close to optimizing with a stock length pushrod.

The 494 has a fast ramp, it must have geometry carried out to prevent valvetrain wear, especially valve guides.



I did a dry assembly and did a quick and dirty visual check of the adjuster/pushrod relation, and it looked pretty well aligned throughout its cycle. Then again, i only looked at one cylinder and just assumed that it would be the same for all others. Probably hosed myself on that one, but at this point, I dont think i want to pull her apart again.


It could be the difference between a 5,000 mile engine and a 100,000 mile engine. It would take a weekend to make sure its right.

If you did not measure the valve lift, you are leaving power on the table, and might end up with a very difficult to tune motor that runs too hot. If you did not make sure that the valve stem and and valve foot were on the same plane at exactly 1/2 lift, you are going to have excessive wear to your valve guides and seats.

And it would only take a weekend to check it, if the engine is not in your car yet.

Even if you don't have a dial indicator, a 1 inch indicator with a vise-grip flex mount is only ~$30 from harbor freight.

Learn from my mistakes. I cut corners on the first motor that I built. I had to rebuild it 6 months later (with only about 10 miles on the motor). its better to only do it once and have it done right.

Once you get the procedure down for the first pushrod, making the next 7 is EASY! But the first one will take ~2 hours to make.

Zach
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jeffdon   Valve lash   Mar 13 2010, 06:09 PM
Al Meredith   I think the board would like to know what kind of ...   Mar 13 2010, 06:25 PM
jeffdon   I think the board would like to know what kind of...   Mar 13 2010, 11:42 PM
Vacca Rabite   Stock pushrods? Are you sure your geometry is rig...   Mar 14 2010, 12:17 AM
jeffdon   Stock pushrods? Are you sure your geometry is ri...   Mar 14 2010, 08:48 AM
ME733   ...........well I guess some of the other engine e...   Mar 14 2010, 07:46 AM
jeffdon   ...........well I guess some of the other engine ...   Mar 14 2010, 08:50 AM
ME733   ...........well I guess some of the other engine...   Mar 14 2010, 09:07 AM
Cap'n Krusty   The .008" number is specified ONLY for T4 eng...   Mar 14 2010, 09:38 AM
jeffdon   The .008" number is specified ONLY for T4 en...   Mar 14 2010, 11:06 AM
Cap'n Krusty   The .008" number is specified ONLY for T4 e...   Mar 14 2010, 08:28 PM
Don M   If you really want to know whats going on with you...   Mar 14 2010, 11:16 AM
Jake Raby   I'd expect that you didn't carry out any v...   Mar 14 2010, 07:10 PM
jeffdon   I'd expect that you didn't carry out any ...   Mar 16 2010, 09:53 AM
Vacca Rabite   I'd expect that you didn't carry out any...   Mar 16 2010, 10:37 AM
Jake Raby   I'd expect that you didn't carry out any...   Mar 16 2010, 07:08 PM
Jake Raby   Running loose retards valve timing events and wear...   Mar 15 2010, 10:36 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I confess to knowing that loose valve settings als...   Mar 16 2010, 09:07 AM
Vacca Rabite   I confess to knowing that loose valve settings al...   Mar 16 2010, 09:24 AM
vsg914   I confess to knowing that loose valve settings a...   Mar 16 2010, 09:27 AM
brant   Zach, I apologize for not using the search featu...   Mar 16 2010, 05:21 PM
Vacca Rabite   Zach, I apologize for not using the search feat...   Mar 16 2010, 09:19 PM
jeffdon   Allrighty, will devise a nice mount for my dial in...   Mar 17 2010, 09:19 AM
jeffdon   Allrighty, check it out. No 3 exhaust, half way t...   Mar 20 2010, 01:45 PM
rtalich   Allrighty, check it out. No 3 exhaust, half way ...   Mar 22 2010, 12:47 PM
jeffdon   Allrighty, check it out. No 3 exhaust, half way...   Mar 24 2010, 09:18 AM
McMark   :unsure:   Mar 20 2010, 02:58 PM
jeffdon   :unsure: Too far out to run as is? Also, I did...   Mar 20 2010, 03:27 PM
brant   Jeff, any chance you have a link to the article?...   Mar 20 2010, 06:18 PM
Jake Raby   The procedure should be done at zero lash. Also, t...   Mar 20 2010, 08:05 PM
jeffdon   Not to question your experience, Jake, of which i ...   Mar 21 2010, 01:16 PM
Jake Raby   Not to question your experience, Jake, of which i...   Mar 21 2010, 01:27 PM
jeffdon   Not to question your experience, Jake, of which ...   Mar 21 2010, 01:54 PM


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