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 Mar 15 2010, 08:40 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist  Group: Members Posts: 13,734 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California 
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Well, after 3 trips back to the tire shop I have them balanced. You'll think this is nuts but try it. First let's give credit where it is due. I clicked on the link posted on aircooledtechguys signature and found this article on balancing tires with air ball bb's. $9 at Wally's and you have enough for 20 tires. It was listed under under "cheap tools" on his website. Basically you put 1.5 oz's in each tire and thats it. So the 3rd trip I took 4 bags weighed out at 1.5 ounces each with these plastic 6.5mm bb's and had the "tire dude" break the beads and insert the bb's. I got some funny looks but it seems to have worked. PS. These can't be used if you have a tire sealer additive in your tires, ever! He shows white balls in his article but I much preferred the competition red bb's.
http://aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/balancing_beads/ |
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Mar 16 2010, 08:54 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,734 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Hey Kwales; I finally get to talk to the other KG owner here. I know your sharp guy and probably right but I have a question. Your analogy was: "Tap on the bottom of the pan as they roll downhill to simulate the impoact from the curb dividers. (thump, thump, thump) Bet that some bounce up off the pan, they don't roll as smooth or in the same pattern as unexcited, and that means your wheel balance changes for every curb divider hit at speed." But how are the gravitational forces equal here. Clearly, 1G acting upon the BB's for the pan demo, right? But in reality this load increases with rotational spin, right? I'm guessing here, but wouldn't the G force acting upon the BB's outwardly or towards the tread always (above 20mph, that is) be >1G ? Maybe 5,6,or 7 G's depending upon rate of speed? Has anyone got a G Meter or know what kind of G's were pulling in the turns. If it exceeds 1G wouldn't the car begin an immediate slid? Wouldn't this outward force have a greater influence on the BB's than the weaker lateral force, thus keeping the BB's in place? I don't know, I'm just a plumber. You won't hurt my feelings by splaining it to me.
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76-914 Balanced My Tires - Finally Mar 15 2010, 08:40 PM
tradisrad I've not heard of that until now. In the past ... Mar 15 2010, 09:04 PM 914Sixer I learned something new today! I am going to ... Mar 16 2010, 07:33 AM Vacca Rabite I am intentending to use this method to balance th... Mar 16 2010, 07:39 AM ME733 ..........The professionals that depend on excella... Mar 16 2010, 07:56 AM RobW This is alll very interesting.... Mar 16 2010, 07:59 AM ws91420 Guy's there is a this this stuff called balanc... Mar 16 2010, 08:16 AM Krieger914 April 1st is just about two weeks away. :popcorn... Mar 16 2010, 08:19 AM kwales Dear Abby,
When my sister got married, I put marb... Mar 16 2010, 08:51 AM Krieger914 Only when going straight, on turns all hell breaks... Mar 16 2010, 09:13 AM Vacca Rabite The BBs trick does work. Tube tire guys have been... Mar 16 2010, 09:17 AM kwales I'm kinda torn on that one.
The tire create... Mar 16 2010, 09:31 AM Vacca Rabite I think it works like a big tilt-a-wheel. As the ... Mar 16 2010, 09:46 AM kwales I can testify to the noise from the the marbles in... Mar 16 2010, 10:08 AM aircooledtechguy Thanks for the plug and the confirmation of my san... Mar 16 2010, 11:58 AM kwales Do the tires become unbalanced when you corner fas... Mar 16 2010, 12:13 PM
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Do the tires become unbalanced when you corner fa... Mar 16 2010, 01:35 PM Phoenix 914-6GT You do this in a car you take over 100mph :blink: ... Mar 16 2010, 01:08 PM kwales Do a force vector diagram on the balls when corner... Mar 16 2010, 01:51 PM SirAndy
Instant dynamic imbalance....
Or maybe not ...
W... Mar 16 2010, 01:58 PM kwales Dynamic imbalance is induced by balls moving to on... Mar 16 2010, 02:00 PM SirAndy
Do the tires become unbalanced when you corner fa... Mar 16 2010, 02:09 PM kwales You don't. The tires are designed to deflect ... Mar 16 2010, 03:59 PM SirAndy
Think everybody in a plane running to one side...... Mar 16 2010, 04:14 PM 76-914 It appears there has been quite alot of intelligen... Mar 16 2010, 06:06 PM kwales Andy, Pilots do a weights and balance on the aircr... Mar 16 2010, 06:35 PM SirAndy
Andy, Pilots do a weights and balance on the airc... Mar 16 2010, 07:57 PM charliew I would think nascar wouldn't use the balls be... Mar 16 2010, 07:34 PM underthetire I have one question, would all the little balls ca... Mar 16 2010, 07:44 PM wobbletop From the "How it works page"
Why don... Mar 16 2010, 08:31 PM 76-914
From the "How it works page"
Why don... Mar 16 2010, 09:06 PM Bartlett 914
From the "How it works page"
Why don... Mar 17 2010, 02:06 PM RobW I talked to a guy who runs a commercial (truck) ti... Mar 16 2010, 08:57 PM ME733
I talked to a guy who runs a commercial (truck) t... Mar 17 2010, 05:17 PM RobW
I talked to a guy who runs a commercial (truck) ... Mar 17 2010, 08:57 PM kwales Andy,
You are not quite getting my point, and be... Mar 16 2010, 09:43 PM aircooledtechguy kwales, IMHO you are making an apples to oranges c... Mar 17 2010, 12:33 PM Phoenix 914-6GT Just to :stir:
I have read in a few other forum... Mar 17 2010, 03:30 PM RobW Oh, and he didn't say it didn't work. Put ... Mar 17 2010, 09:01 PM |
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