Could a 914 Redux come about? ...& do you like it?, ...now that VW owns controlling interest in Porsche? |
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Could a 914 Redux come about? ...& do you like it?, ...now that VW owns controlling interest in Porsche? |
Tom_T |
Feb 24 2010, 09:33 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Motor Trend on-line had an article in Sept. 2008 about a possible return of the 914, which I came across last year ......
Now that the dust has apparently settled from the VW vs. Porsche corporate control battle, with VW in control - one must wonder if this design study will now come to market?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) OKAY - UPDATE - And to be clear - I'm also asking which styling concept you like, both or neither - as well as if you'd possibly buy one if it came about?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) But you gotta love Sir Andy's brevity as you read on this thread: "No" (to the will they question only). If you look at the blue version - it clearly has the VW roundel on the front. However, the gold & more 914-like concept sketch has what appears to be or could be the shield shaped Porsche Crest on the front deck! Full article at: http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_ve..._914/index.html Concept Sketches at: - these are also linked at the full article above GOLD 914 Targa Roadster - http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_ve...4/photo_01.html BLUE VW Targa Coupe - http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_ve...4/photo_02.html ~ Personally, I prefer this styling concept myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) A guy named Hans L. on here who is involved with the 914-6 resto shop up in Camarillo, also works/worked his "regular day job" at the VW-Audi Design Center in Santa Monica CA, doing such design concepts for them. Maybe he can enlighten us all???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
EdwardBlume |
Feb 25 2010, 11:09 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I agree... the gold one would be a sale for me. The styling is much more 914 minded. I would want the 200 HP version. The problem with any "new" platform is that it needs to be independent of the 911 flagship. Hence you end up with a sedan and an SUV far earlier than what "WE" want.
I could see Porsche moving 100,000 to 200,000 new 914s for $30-$35M, but what would happen to the Boxster, and potentially the 911... that's why I think you'll never see it. With one exception... you will need a platform for electric / hybrid technology.... |
Tom_T |
Mar 18 2010, 08:31 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Porsche builts 100 000 cars a year. They don't need an entry level car that will ruin their margins and image. The Boxster IS the 914 sucessor. Every time an executive from Porsche was interviewed he said that there will never be a model cheaper than the Boxster. I agree... the gold one would be a sale for me. The styling is much more 914 minded. I would want the 200 HP version. The problem with any "new" platform is that it needs to be independent of the 911 flagship. Hence you end up with a sedan and an SUV far earlier than what "WE" want. I could see Porsche moving 100,000 to 200,000 new 914s for $30-$35M, but what would happen to the Boxster, and potentially the 911... that's why I think you'll never see it. With one exception... you will need a platform for electric / hybrid technology.... Relative to these 2 above quoted earlier responses from Johannes & RobW about what are apparently well overstated Porsche sales/production figures - I was just reading in the most recent Panorama last night about Porsche's USA sales for 2009 & 2008 - and was frankly surprised at how small of a number it was - particularly for the Boxters & Caymans! US Vehicles: . . . . . 2009 MY: . . . . . . 2008 MY: . . . . . . Yr-to-Yr Chg: All Makers: . . . 10,431,509 . . . . . . 13,245,718 . . . . . . - 21.2% Porsche: . . . . . . . . 19,696 . . . . . . . . . .26,035 . . . . . . - 24.3% 911: . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,839 . . . . . . . . . . .8,320 e . . . . . - 17.8% Cayenne: . . . . . . . . 7,735 . . . . . . . . . .11,210 e . . . . . - 31.0% Boxster: . . . . . . . . . 1,909 . . . . . . . . . .2,978 e . . . . . - 35.9% Cayman:. . . . . . . . . 1,966 . . . . . . . . . .3,510 e . . . . . - 44.0% IIRC - the USA is now about 40% of their total world sales, so I'm extrapolating that the world totals for 2009 & 2008 were about: Porsche Total: 20,000 - 26,000 +/- USA / 0.60 = 33,400 - 43,400 +/- worldwide ~ not 100,000 Boxster+Cayman: 4,000 - 5,500 +/- USA / 0.60 = 6,700 - 9,200 +/- worldwide ~ not 100-200,000 IIRC - Our original 914's best sales year was 1973 MY & they built & sold well north of 27,500 1.7's & 2.0's that year (about 3/4's & 1/4 respectively) - with 60% being in the USA - or +/- 16,500 1973 MY 914's here in the USA - which is 3 to 4 times the meager 4,000 - 5,500 Boxters+Caymans sold in the USA in 2009 & 2008! IMHO - they could easily equal or better their profits on the Boxters/Caymans - by selling 20,000+ units of a nice, small, lightweight & simplified entry level or specialty/preference spec "Retro New 914" Porsche, as in this model concept below v- even if it had less than half the profit margin per unit as the Boxters/Caymans! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... Plus those 20,000+ units would bring down their USA CAFE & Euro equivalent overal Fleet MPG ratings - so why not!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) ..... I'm still game! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ..... & waiting impatiently! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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