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> Kiesel Turbo Sprite., It rapes... literally.
ghuff
post Apr 1 2010, 10:45 AM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here.
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post Apr 2 2010, 02:04 PM
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It's not _just_ the power though. It's that he has a stratospheric redline compared to conventional reciprocating engines. Once he gets on it, he doesn't have to worry about grabbing another gear. In E-Mod and classes like that, the cars tend to follow the simple power philosophy of "laying rubber". If the car can lay down two black streaks of rubber from the exit of one turn to the entrance of the next, then it has enough power. But point-n-shoot won't do it without a suspension under the car, and Kiesel car has a real suspension in it.

The Tunnell machine has absurd power (latest estimates I recall were in the neighborhood of 600+). So much so that the car spends very little time at WOT on a given run.

Expect Bob to give him a run sooner or later. That car only gets faster as time goes on. He was the only one within spitting distance of the Kiesel car last year.

As for an E-Mod 914? I think you gotta forget Porsche power. Street Mod though, there's a podium spot to a killer 914 for anyone willing to drop an absurd amount of money on a monster 914-6. I'm thinking supercharged 3.6 or the like, a gearbox like Tim's, and a stupid amount of money in a redesigned suspension.

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post Apr 2 2010, 03:32 PM
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Arrrrhhhh!
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QUOTE(jhadler @ Apr 2 2010, 01:04 PM) *

It's not _just_ the power though. It's that he has a stratospheric redline compared to conventional reciprocating engines. Once he gets on it, he doesn't have to worry about grabbing another gear. In E-Mod and classes like that, the cars tend to follow the simple power philosophy of "laying rubber". If the car can lay down two black streaks of rubber from the exit of one turn to the entrance of the next, then it has enough power. But point-n-shoot won't do it without a suspension under the car, and Kiesel car has a real suspension in it.

The Tunnell machine has absurd power (latest estimates I recall were in the neighborhood of 600+). So much so that the car spends very little time at WOT on a given run.

Expect Bob to give him a run sooner or later. That car only gets faster as time goes on. He was the only one within spitting distance of the Kiesel car last year.

As for an E-Mod 914? I think you gotta forget Porsche power. Street Mod though, there's a podium spot to a killer 914 for anyone willing to drop an absurd amount of money on a monster 914-6. I'm thinking supercharged 3.6 or the like, a gearbox like Tim's, and a stupid amount of money in a redesigned suspension.

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Yep I agree. Far better suspension on that car than most 914 we have seen at autocross events. Kiesel just knows how to drive to get fastest times. His style is focused on getting power down.
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post Apr 2 2010, 07:46 PM
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Slightly off the topic, but the video is using the Chase acceleration
overlay but it is clearly not aligned with the car at all! or you'd be
better able to tell what kind of grip he gets. (Also the overlay is
poor compared to my design but I wasn't allowed to sell it to him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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ghuff   Kiesel Turbo Sprite.   Apr 1 2010, 10:45 AM
grantsfo   nBVVssJwx2Y :drooley: The reason you wont see...   Apr 1 2010, 11:07 AM
ghuff   That car is ridiculous.   Apr 1 2010, 11:19 AM
Joe Ricard   Word. Craziest thing I've seen that once was...   Apr 1 2010, 11:32 AM
Randal   Word. Craziest thing I've seen that once wa...   Apr 1 2010, 12:43 PM
Britain Smith   Yep. I have always wondered how my 914 would do w...   Apr 1 2010, 01:01 PM
Randal   Yep. I have always wondered how my 914 would do ...   Apr 1 2010, 02:54 PM
Rand   Article with a couple pics: http://www.rogues-raci...   Apr 1 2010, 02:19 PM
championgt1   That is fricken sweet! :headbanger:   Apr 1 2010, 08:43 PM
Thorshammer   The fastest E Mod 914 I have ever seen was built b...   Apr 1 2010, 09:26 PM
ctbarbarian   The fastest E Mod 914 I have ever seen was built ...   Nov 23 2011, 12:37 AM
Randal   The fastest E Mod 914 I have ever seen was built...   Nov 23 2011, 10:08 AM
ctbarbarian   [quote name='ctbarbarian' post='1577073' date='No...   Nov 23 2011, 11:52 AM
Randal   [quote name='ctbarbarian' post='1577073' date='N...   Nov 24 2011, 08:20 AM
J P Stein   Piston engines unlimited displacement: 1800 lbs A...   Apr 1 2010, 09:42 PM
Randal   Piston engines unlimited displacement: 1800 lbs ...   Apr 1 2010, 10:13 PM
ghuff   Piston engines unlimited displacement: 1800 lbs ...   Apr 2 2010, 07:49 AM
Rand   I want to know what kind of power he is making, a...   Apr 2 2010, 11:54 AM
grantsfo   Again why not a Mazda TT? Conversion plate exists...   Apr 1 2010, 10:44 PM
ghuff   To0EZq_poIQ n3dw9w6SbPk   Apr 2 2010, 07:54 AM
jhadler   Jeff's sprite is a terrifying thing of simplis...   Apr 2 2010, 12:04 PM
byndbad914   he has what I have and think is key - so much powe...   Apr 2 2010, 01:19 PM
jhadler   It's not _just_ the power though. It's tha...   Apr 2 2010, 02:04 PM
grantsfo   It's not _just_ the power though. It's th...   Apr 2 2010, 03:32 PM
mskala   Slightly off the topic, but the video is using the...   Apr 2 2010, 07:46 PM
Randal   Slightly off the topic, but the video is using th...   Apr 2 2010, 11:30 PM
J P Stein   Yep I agree. Far better suspension on that car...   Apr 10 2010, 02:40 PM
ghuff   Yep I agree. Far better suspension on that ca...   Apr 14 2010, 02:40 PM
J P Stein   [quote name='J P Stein' post='1301197' date='Apr ...   Apr 14 2010, 05:11 PM
fd_racer   The Tunnell machine has absurd power (latest est...   Nov 23 2010, 06:54 PM
grantsfo   We are going to have several data aquistion boxes ...   Apr 2 2010, 11:53 PM
sean_v8_914   we ran the 10jereen against him at teh Q last mont...   Apr 3 2010, 10:59 AM
mskala   This is a sample. I have different configurations...   Apr 3 2010, 03:35 PM
ghuff   So who is going to do it? I have too many projects...   Apr 10 2010, 01:19 PM
stewteral   So who is going to do it? I have too many project...   Dec 15 2010, 10:49 AM
brilliantrot   The entire car is super narrow. It is only ~5...   Apr 14 2010, 07:32 PM
McMark   That's one crazy car. :o I would love to see ...   Apr 15 2010, 09:58 AM
ghuff   That's one crazy car. :o I would love to see...   Apr 15 2010, 10:23 AM
ghuff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img69...   Apr 15 2010, 03:52 PM
sean_v8_914   ya'll need to see it live to really appreciate...   Nov 27 2010, 01:17 PM
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fd_racer   Ya Sean but that is true for anyone. Either out s...   Nov 28 2010, 08:43 PM
jd74914   Jeff, Beautiful Sprite! Those are crazy later...   Nov 28 2010, 08:51 PM
fd_racer   Jeff, Beautiful Sprite! Those are crazy late...   Nov 29 2010, 10:31 AM
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ChrisNPDrider   Thanks for sharing the real info on your Sprite :b...   Nov 30 2010, 05:57 PM
grantsfo   Its an awesome car. I gained healthy respect for ...   Dec 1 2010, 03:32 AM
fd_racer   Its an awesome car. I gained healthy respect for...   Dec 6 2010, 05:20 PM
grantsfo   Its an awesome car. I gained healthy respect fo...   Dec 13 2010, 04:27 PM
jjackson   [quote name='fd_racer' post='1402817' date='Dec 6...   Dec 14 2010, 09:29 PM
jjackson   [quote name='fd_racer' post='1402817' date='Dec ...   Dec 14 2010, 09:36 PM
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grantsfo   Pics of the car at SD.   Dec 16 2010, 11:14 AM
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J P Stein   The turn of this thread reminds be of the "ou...   Dec 13 2011, 01:32 PM
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