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> potential issue with starter when HOT?
JF914
post Apr 10 2010, 10:37 PM
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Has anyone had a problem with the starter after a long drive? Driving on a long trip. After second gas stop, all it does is spin. Does not engage and turn over engine?
Will this cure itself when cool?

Is that what folks mean by the "dreaded hot start starter issue". Never happened before, but then again, have never driven over 150 miles at a clip.

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post Apr 10 2010, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(JF914 @ Apr 10 2010, 09:37 PM) *

Has anyone had a problem with the starter after a long drive? Driving on a long trip. After second gas stop, all it does is spin. Does not engage and turn over engine?
Will this cure itself when cool?

Is that what folks mean by the "dreaded hot start starter issue". Never happened before, but then again, have never driven over 150 miles at a clip.


Let me add that I agree with Andy that the usual dreaded is the click - no joy problem, usually due to heat expansion freezing the motor & solenoid. However, this sounds like the related dread - where the solenoid is to hot, expands & won't engage the gear & the starter spins.

Yup - that's it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The starter & solenoid get hot, & either the solenoid can't push the starter in to engage &/or the starter won't turn at all. It's also an intermittent problem on other Porsches & VW's, in part due to the heat of the engine.

It usually indicates that it's time for a new starter &/or solenoid soon.

Yes, it usually cures itself when the engine cools down. If not or if in a hurry, have someone try starting it with the key, while you're under the back end with a hammer or something to tap the starter as they're engaging the key to the start position. That will usually break it loose.

I had a similar problem last summer on a trip in our 88 VW Westy, & my son & I double teamed to do that to get it started, then replaced with a rebuilt started at our destination - GoWesty for some other work anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Some folks buy the thermal blanket for the starter to insulate it from the engine heat. I've seen them sold at PP & probably others too.

I hope that didn't happen to Dan? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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JF914   potential issue with starter when HOT?   Apr 10 2010, 10:37 PM
SirAndy   No. The "dreaded hot start starter issue...   Apr 10 2010, 11:03 PM
76-914   No. The "dreaded hot start starter issue...   Apr 11 2010, 02:23 PM
Tom_T   Has anyone had a problem with the starter after a...   Apr 10 2010, 11:28 PM
JF914   Has anyone had a problem with the starter after ...   Apr 11 2010, 07:59 AM
Gint   Your pm said a hmmm noise which I assumed to be th...   Apr 11 2010, 09:47 AM
charliew   It could be just a loose connection at the solenoi...   Apr 11 2010, 10:59 AM
gendent   I concour, it is the solenoid failing to engage th...   Apr 11 2010, 11:08 AM
McMark   1. Clean the connections at both ends of the batte...   Apr 11 2010, 11:19 AM
Gint   Good advice Mark, but we're talking about a no...   Apr 11 2010, 01:03 PM
McMark   Yup.   Apr 11 2010, 04:30 PM
Gint   Most of the hot start issues I've seen did not...   Apr 11 2010, 05:04 PM
76-914   SOB. Then that is what appened to me last week. So...   Apr 11 2010, 10:09 PM
jt914-6   Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to push ...   Apr 12 2010, 11:07 AM
Cupomeat   Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to push...   Apr 12 2010, 01:02 PM
Dirty Evo   Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to pus...   Apr 12 2010, 01:57 PM
Rico Suave   Best to pull the starter and have it rebuilt CORRE...   Apr 12 2010, 12:29 PM
charliew   The fix if the starter is a good starter is to go ...   Apr 12 2010, 04:35 PM
dank   Nice, a topic dedicated to my travel failures ...   Apr 13 2010, 02:49 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Actually Bosch was aware of the problem of the sol...   Apr 13 2010, 02:57 PM


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