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potential issue with starter when HOT? |
JF914 |
Apr 10 2010, 10:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 9-September 09 From: Boulder Member No.: 10,786 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Has anyone had a problem with the starter after a long drive? Driving on a long trip. After second gas stop, all it does is spin. Does not engage and turn over engine?
Will this cure itself when cool? Is that what folks mean by the "dreaded hot start starter issue". Never happened before, but then again, have never driven over 150 miles at a clip. |
jt914-6 |
Apr 12 2010, 11:07 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to push start it or get under it and short out the cable from the battery on the starter to the solenoid wire (yellow) with a screwdriver and it would start. Of course you would have to have the key in "on" position.
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Cupomeat |
Apr 12 2010, 01:02 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to push start it or get under it and short out the cable from the battery on the starter to the solenoid wire (yellow) with a screwdriver and it would start. Of course you would have to have the key in "on" position. Yes, this "procedure" worked for me for many years but all I had to do was make the started move a little (just touch short the hot terminal to the solenoid tab) and then the normal ignition key/switch worked again. This was preferable to starting the car above my head. SO, I tried getting a new Bosch starter which worked for a few years, but the final "fix" (and there is HOT debate about this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)) was to put a relay in for better voltage/current to the solenoid. Some here will say that the solenoid is not a fix and just a bandaid, but as given my experience, it fixed mine. So, if you touch your solenoid lead with a hot (12v) lead, does the starter turn (crank) or is it still dead. If it still doesn't turn it is in need of repair. |
Dirty Evo |
Apr 12 2010, 01:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: 2-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,198 Region Association: Northern California |
Years ago when I had my 1.7 I found I had to push start it or get under it and short out the cable from the battery on the starter to the solenoid wire (yellow) with a screwdriver and it would start. Of course you would have to have the key in "on" position. Yes, this "procedure" worked for me for many years but all I had to do was make the started move a little (just touch short the hot terminal to the solenoid tab) and then the normal ignition key/switch worked again. This was preferable to starting the car above my head. SO, I tried getting a new Bosch starter which worked for a few years, but the final "fix" (and there is HOT debate about this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)) was to put a relay in for better voltage/current to the solenoid. Some here will say that the solenoid is not a fix and just a bandaid, but as given my experience, it fixed mine. So, if you touch your solenoid lead with a hot (12v) lead, does the starter turn (crank) or is it still dead. If it still doesn't turn it is in need of repair. Yeah back when I had my 914, had same issue... actually with 3 diff starter motors, and would always crawl under to start it (or push start). I was 18 years old, so wasnt' a big deal for me. My dad fixed it the same way you did... put a relay in there to somehow change the power to the solenoid and it always worked fine after that. |
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