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| Brett W |
 Mar 1 2004, 10:46 PM
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I was checking on the net today and you can pick up a WRX motor for about 650 used. This is pretty complete. That would make a great 914 swap. Better turbo, and some cleaning up of the engine wiring and such you could have one bad ass daily driver.
You would still have the flat four and you could over come the limitations of the T4 engine. |
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| Brett W |
Mar 4 2004, 11:21 PM
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If you will heave the stock turbo and piping system out in the street and start from scratch and build a system right, yes it will cost a little more but, you can have a trubo that spools at idle if necessary. I haven't driven a WRX so I don't know about lag but I have a feeling they tried to do away with it. I heard they lose out on the top end turbo not big enough.
Take the turbo I am building for the honda. It is a T3 with a 48 exhaust side and .63 compressor. This little mother should spool really fast and supply a bunch more air than the stock .42 compressor side. Plus the equal length manifold that I am building will help get all that exhaust out so I figure it ought to spool around 2500-3000 rpm, right where it needs to. Run lots of boost and a blow off valve and you really shouldn't have a problem. Oh yeah get an external wastegate also. I found the 2.0 WRX motor for a little under 700 dollars. I figure for under 4000 you can have one kick ass car. should smoke plenty of things on the road. Then you puke the tranny but hey that can be over come as well. |
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Brett W Why not the WRX? Mar 1 2004, 10:46 PM
jkeyzer Sounds great to me. Somebody please do it and let... Mar 1 2004, 11:06 PM steve@ottosvenice.com From the centerline of the crank they are 4 inches... Mar 1 2004, 11:13 PM Jenny Fiid mentioned this over a year ago at a 914 break... Mar 1 2004, 11:13 PM soloracer I was thinking the exact same thing. I actually d... Mar 1 2004, 11:18 PM Rob Ways Its been done, but does it go weeeeeeeeeee!... Mar 1 2004, 11:18 PM Malmz I don't think the sump depth is a problem, it... Mar 1 2004, 11:22 PM Brett W Be nice if I knew what the naked engine looked lik... Mar 1 2004, 11:25 PM ChrisReale I guess the real question is why not?? The WRX is... Mar 1 2004, 11:27 PM Malmz Like I've said before, find me a wrecked Passa... Mar 1 2004, 11:32 PM Andyrew Fiid is doing a EJ20T, and if all goes well with h... Mar 1 2004, 11:36 PM fiid Andyrew Any updates?
Oh ya, and if you havent seen it..
ht... Mar 1 2004, 11:56 PM soloracer Actually, technically Fiid has an EJ20TT (twin tur... Mar 1 2004, 11:59 PM Freedom well you can do the 2.2l conversion there are ads ... Mar 2 2004, 12:04 AM Andyrew Oh ya, I keep forgeting to add the extra 't... Mar 2 2004, 12:09 AM stock93 Brett,
If the oil pan clearance is an issue, do a ... Mar 2 2004, 01:36 AM ChrisReale Damn...now you guys got me thinkin'. Where ca... Mar 2 2004, 01:42 AM fiid http://www.nippon-motors.com/Performance%20Engines... Mar 2 2004, 01:47 AM ChrisReale So....Fiid, ya got room in your garage right? :lol... Mar 2 2004, 02:01 AM fiid I already have two subaru motors in my garage. If... Mar 2 2004, 02:18 AM Brett W I found a couple of pictures of the bare engine in... Mar 2 2004, 07:24 AM soloracer Most would like to use the stock ECU. However, no... Mar 2 2004, 11:42 AM Mueller I have not spoken to Eric in a while, not sure if ... Mar 2 2004, 12:02 PM Brett W Thanks mike
Yeah that oil pan would be no problem... Mar 2 2004, 12:21 PM biosurfer1 he did both...check out his web site and he goes t... Mar 2 2004, 12:35 PM Mueller QUOTE
fiid fiid I don't think the stock stuff is a great solut... Mar 2 2004, 02:31 PM d914 there are also aftermarket computers, maps and sim... Mar 2 2004, 02:35 PM fiid Most of the aftermarket solutions I have considere... Mar 2 2004, 02:42 PM d914 keep doing all the research, I'm sure I'll... Mar 2 2004, 02:47 PM phantom914 Mueller QUOTE
phantom914 OK. Makes sense. It's just that somebody menti... Mar 2 2004, 03:52 PM BravoHotel I am looking at the Mazda V-6 concept as we speak.... Mar 2 2004, 03:54 PM Mueller I'm familiar with the Probe GT with the V6...i... Mar 2 2004, 03:59 PM phantom914 It can handle 300HP with stock internals, more wit... Mar 2 2004, 04:03 PM jonwatts Mar 2 2004, 04:51 PM
fiid
soloracer Bet you my 2.0 litre weighs less than your 2.0 lit... Mar 2 2004, 07:26 PM
Rob Ways A friend of mine has an STI and that motor is unbe... Mar 2 2004, 07:29 PM
fiid The rotary is almost certainly lighter than the su... Mar 2 2004, 07:34 PM
soloracer The rotary is basically a beer keg. I would agree... Mar 2 2004, 08:54 PM
MattR fiid, i totally agree. I know with mods the sube ... Mar 2 2004, 11:00 PM
fiid The STi is close to 30 grand. I have never driven... Mar 2 2004, 11:15 PM
fiid In other newz:
I am thinking of mounting the Powe... Mar 2 2004, 11:19 PM
jonwatts
jonwatts
fiid soloracer Bet you my 2.0 litre weighs less than your 2.0 lit... Mar 2 2004, 07:26 PM Rob Ways A friend of mine has an STI and that motor is unbe... Mar 2 2004, 07:29 PM fiid The rotary is almost certainly lighter than the su... Mar 2 2004, 07:34 PM soloracer The rotary is basically a beer keg. I would agree... Mar 2 2004, 08:54 PM MattR fiid, i totally agree. I know with mods the sube ... Mar 2 2004, 11:00 PM fiid The STi is close to 30 grand. I have never driven... Mar 2 2004, 11:15 PM fiid In other newz:
I am thinking of mounting the Powe... Mar 2 2004, 11:19 PM jonwatts jonwatts Mar 2 2004, 11:25 PM
fiid Positioning. I was trying to get away with not ha... Mar 2 2004, 11:29 PM
Andyrew I dont see why you would put the PS pump on.. Its ... Mar 2 2004, 11:40 PM
jonwatts
ChrisReale Fiid, one of these days Im going to swing by and c... Mar 3 2004, 01:07 AM
Travis Neff The subaru 4cyl turbo engines are within 20-30lbs ... Mar 3 2004, 01:02 PM
Travis Neff Ah, just remembered that I saw a personal webpage ... Mar 3 2004, 01:04 PM
d914 147 kg for EJ20 = 324 lbs
two liter 6 = ... Mar 3 2004, 02:36 PM
soloracer Are those weights for a short block or an engine w... Mar 3 2004, 07:17 PM
d914 the porsche weights are from dave and the subaru c... Mar 3 2004, 07:25 PM
d914 A couple of bits from the new edition of Ludvigsen... Mar 3 2004, 07:30 PM
airsix I gotta bump this thread. It's my new facinati... Mar 4 2004, 12:18 PM
Mueller Hey Ben.....
it is temting isn't it????
I ta... Mar 4 2004, 12:32 PM
airsix Interesting idea... but too much work for my inte... Mar 4 2004, 01:26 PM
Andyrew I know you guys will hate this, but what about ano... Mar 4 2004, 03:30 PM
d914 engine 1-3k
link c... Mar 4 2004, 03:56 PM
Mueller Andrew:
go here for the Megasquirt...they do thie... Mar 4 2004, 03:58 PM
Mueller Pretty darn close Greg....I think it can be done f... Mar 4 2004, 04:04 PM
Andyrew Mike I like that number better!
But how coul... Mar 4 2004, 04:27 PM
Mueller I based my estimate on the $650 price for the... Mar 4 2004, 04:35 PM
airsix
Andyrew Im talking twin turbo. The twin turbo has better l... Mar 4 2004, 04:39 PM
d914 1-3 depending on the engine and or how new and or ... Mar 4 2004, 05:18 PM
Andyrew So a small exhaust side on a turbo will allow for ... Mar 4 2004, 11:38 PM
Chris914n6 I think I figured around 4k completed. It's th... Mar 5 2004, 12:19 AM
Mueller Andrew,
I think the twin turbo Subaru motor is no... Mar 5 2004, 01:58 AM
Brett W " So a small exhaust side on a turbo will allow fo... Mar 5 2004, 11:46 AM
Andyrew Mueller, Ya know, I was thinking about this, and I... Mar 5 2004, 12:37 PM
soloracer The Link system is a piggyback ECU (I don't be... Mar 5 2004, 02:12 PM
airsix Ok, time to get serious...
Fiid, Watts, wake up... Mar 5 2004, 02:44 PM
airsix Fiid, Watts, wake up!!! Don't let... Mar 5 2004, 06:10 PM
Chris914n6
fiid The engine looms were cut off at the side of the e... Mar 5 2004, 07:46 PM
airsix Cool. That's really not too bad all things con... Mar 5 2004, 09:42 PM
soloracer Here is the link to Tony Rigoli dyno runs:
Subaru... Mar 5 2004, 10:56 PM
jonwatts I don't recall getting any of the harness but ... Mar 6 2004, 01:42 AM
airsix <... Mar 6 2004, 11:12 AM
jonwatts Ben you Ignorant Slut :rocketarena:
No seriousl... Mar 6 2004, 04:06 PM
airsix Yeah, I hear what you're saying - the single-t... Mar 6 2004, 05:42 PM
airsix Watts, Fiid,
Question #1:
Have you guys done any... Mar 8 2004, 01:44 PM
fiid I haven't done any cooling system work yet. M... Mar 8 2004, 06:21 PM
fiid AFAIK - the knock sensor is controlled by the ECU.... Mar 8 2004, 06:25 PM
jkeyzer I think the knock sensor is like a microphone. Th... Mar 8 2004, 06:29 PM
Mueller Jeff,
do a search on STF, there is a knock sensor... Mar 8 2004, 07:43 PM
MRM4418
fiid Positioning. I was trying to get away with not ha... Mar 2 2004, 11:29 PM Andyrew I dont see why you would put the PS pump on.. Its ... Mar 2 2004, 11:40 PM jonwatts ChrisReale Fiid, one of these days Im going to swing by and c... Mar 3 2004, 01:07 AM Travis Neff The subaru 4cyl turbo engines are within 20-30lbs ... Mar 3 2004, 01:02 PM Travis Neff Ah, just remembered that I saw a personal webpage ... Mar 3 2004, 01:04 PM d914 147 kg for EJ20 = 324 lbs
two liter 6 = ... Mar 3 2004, 02:36 PM soloracer Are those weights for a short block or an engine w... Mar 3 2004, 07:17 PM d914 the porsche weights are from dave and the subaru c... Mar 3 2004, 07:25 PM d914 A couple of bits from the new edition of Ludvigsen... Mar 3 2004, 07:30 PM airsix I gotta bump this thread. It's my new facinati... Mar 4 2004, 12:18 PM Mueller Hey Ben.....
it is temting isn't it????
I ta... Mar 4 2004, 12:32 PM airsix Interesting idea... but too much work for my inte... Mar 4 2004, 01:26 PM Andyrew I know you guys will hate this, but what about ano... Mar 4 2004, 03:30 PM d914 engine 1-3k
link c... Mar 4 2004, 03:56 PM Mueller Andrew:
go here for the Megasquirt...they do thie... Mar 4 2004, 03:58 PM Mueller Pretty darn close Greg....I think it can be done f... Mar 4 2004, 04:04 PM Andyrew Mike I like that number better!
But how coul... Mar 4 2004, 04:27 PM Mueller I based my estimate on the $650 price for the... Mar 4 2004, 04:35 PM airsix Andyrew Im talking twin turbo. The twin turbo has better l... Mar 4 2004, 04:39 PM d914 1-3 depending on the engine and or how new and or ... Mar 4 2004, 05:18 PM Andyrew So a small exhaust side on a turbo will allow for ... Mar 4 2004, 11:38 PM Chris914n6 I think I figured around 4k completed. It's th... Mar 5 2004, 12:19 AM Mueller Andrew,
I think the twin turbo Subaru motor is no... Mar 5 2004, 01:58 AM Brett W " So a small exhaust side on a turbo will allow fo... Mar 5 2004, 11:46 AM Andyrew Mueller, Ya know, I was thinking about this, and I... Mar 5 2004, 12:37 PM soloracer The Link system is a piggyback ECU (I don't be... Mar 5 2004, 02:12 PM airsix Ok, time to get serious...
Fiid, Watts, wake up... Mar 5 2004, 02:44 PM airsix Fiid, Watts, wake up!!! Don't let... Mar 5 2004, 06:10 PM Chris914n6 fiid The engine looms were cut off at the side of the e... Mar 5 2004, 07:46 PM airsix Cool. That's really not too bad all things con... Mar 5 2004, 09:42 PM soloracer Here is the link to Tony Rigoli dyno runs:
Subaru... Mar 5 2004, 10:56 PM jonwatts I don't recall getting any of the harness but ... Mar 6 2004, 01:42 AM airsix <... Mar 6 2004, 11:12 AM jonwatts Ben you Ignorant Slut :rocketarena:
No seriousl... Mar 6 2004, 04:06 PM airsix Yeah, I hear what you're saying - the single-t... Mar 6 2004, 05:42 PM airsix Watts, Fiid,
Question #1:
Have you guys done any... Mar 8 2004, 01:44 PM fiid I haven't done any cooling system work yet. M... Mar 8 2004, 06:21 PM fiid AFAIK - the knock sensor is controlled by the ECU.... Mar 8 2004, 06:25 PM jkeyzer I think the knock sensor is like a microphone. Th... Mar 8 2004, 06:29 PM Mueller Jeff,
do a search on STF, there is a knock sensor... Mar 8 2004, 07:43 PM MRM4418 Mar 8 2004, 07:47 PM
soloracer J&S makes an aftermarket knock sensor system. Som... Mar 8 2004, 10:34 PM
Mueller that's the brand !!!!
at abou... Mar 8 2004, 11:20 PM
airsix Why start screwing around with aftermarket knock-s... Mar 9 2004, 12:17 AM
Mr.C Kennedy sells a shortened pan for their Vanagon co... Mar 9 2004, 01:33 AM
soloracer J&S makes an aftermarket knock sensor system. Som... Mar 8 2004, 10:34 PM Mueller that's the brand !!!!
at abou... Mar 8 2004, 11:20 PM airsix Why start screwing around with aftermarket knock-s... Mar 9 2004, 12:17 AM Mr.C Kennedy sells a shortened pan for their Vanagon co... Mar 9 2004, 01:33 AM |
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