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| JamesM |
Apr 12 2010, 08:15 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,146 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
For my most recent Megasquirt install i went a different route and had some mini-MS boards produced. It did not make a lot of sense to just have one PCB printed so needless to say i have more then a few empty boards laying around. Now i am trying to decide if it is worth my time and money to build these boards out and sell them as a plug n play solution for d-jet cars.
For those who don't know, mini-ms is electronically compatible with megasquirt 2.2 however the components are arranged tighter on the board and it integrates the relay board all on a form factor smaller then the original MS. My first couple of installs i used a standard megasquirt 2.2 with relay board and DB-37 cable but the mini-ms seemed like the better way to go so that is what i am playing with now. The setup i a running right now looks almost stock, the mini-ms is enclosed completely in a gutted d-jet brain and plugs directly into the d-jet harness. the only difference from stock is a MAP line running to the brain and the 2 injector ground wires being run back as well. You have to look close to tell its not stock, however i have a feeling i could make it even more stealth by hiding the MAP sensor in an old MPS in order to get rid of the vac line to the ECU. I just have not cared enough to cut up an MPS yet. The great part about this system is it makes troubleshooting way easier and eliminates the need for stock trigger points, MPS. ECU, decell valve, and cold start injector, though they can all be left in place if desired in order to appear stock. It also allows for cool things if you desire like closed loop operation with a wideband O2 sensor, spark control, rev limiters, traction control, and a bunch of other stuff depending on how far you want to take it. It can be tuned around just about anything, so its great if you want to change cams or go bigger on your motor and still look stock. So is there any interest out there for this sort of thing or should i just dump the empty boards on ebay or something? |
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| jhadler |
Apr 14 2010, 05:35 PM
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Long term tinkerer... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Maybe I missed something in the descriptions in this thread. How would a MS system be implemented as a PnP? Unless the system is going to mimic CIS, you need something to signal the ECU where the crank position is. Are you intending on having this system still rely on the FI points? That would be sad, after getting away from the rest of the antiquated old hardware. A crank trigger is the way to go, but adding a crank trigger is anything but PnP.
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| JamesM |
Apr 14 2010, 10:02 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,146 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Maybe I missed something in the descriptions in this thread. How would a MS system be implemented as a PnP? Unless the system is going to mimic CIS, you need something to signal the ECU where the crank position is. Are you intending on having this system still rely on the FI points? That would be sad, after getting away from the rest of the antiquated old hardware. A crank trigger is the way to go, but adding a crank trigger is anything but PnP. -Josh2 the ECU gets its signal from the coil in most fuel only setups |
JamesM Gauging interest for PnP Megasquirt solution Apr 12 2010, 08:15 PM
mightyohm Can you post some pictures of the boards?
I'm... Apr 12 2010, 08:38 PM
JamesM
Can you post some pictures of the boards?
I... Apr 12 2010, 08:42 PM
JamesM Ill post some pics of what i am playing around wit... Apr 12 2010, 11:55 PM
underthetire I had often though about it myself. I'm not in... Apr 12 2010, 08:43 PM
quadracerx
For my most recent Megasquirt install i went a di... Apr 12 2010, 08:52 PM
JamesM
Im sure there is a market for this....although si... Apr 13 2010, 12:16 AM
JimN73 I know very little about MS or other aftermarket s... Apr 12 2010, 08:53 PM
JamesM
I know very little about MS or other aftermarket ... Apr 13 2010, 01:44 AM
Lennies914 Sounds like it would pay for itself the first time... Apr 12 2010, 09:14 PM
JamesM
Sounds like it would pay for itself the first tim... Apr 13 2010, 12:38 AM
Gint So is there any interest out there for this sort o... Apr 12 2010, 09:23 PM
JamesM
So is there any interest out there for this sort ... Apr 13 2010, 03:09 AM
Gint Support for various hardware mods/add ons/upgrades... Apr 13 2010, 05:40 AM
velum Hi James!
Anything new about your PnP MegaSqu... Sep 24 2010, 11:38 PM
Mark Henry Cool stuff but I'm not in the market...I might... Apr 13 2010, 05:13 AM
DBCooper I think you're on to something, especially for... Apr 13 2010, 07:21 AM
type47 I'm very interested in this. I'd like to d... Apr 13 2010, 08:06 AM
biosurfer1 As far as support goes, I would buy a website doma... Apr 13 2010, 08:36 AM
tradisrad I have thought about aftermarket FI, but I also do... Apr 13 2010, 09:01 AM
Smitty911 I'd be intrested, I'd also like the Spark ... Apr 13 2010, 10:42 AM
JamesM
I'd be intrested, I'd also like the Spark... Apr 13 2010, 12:53 PM
Jake Raby I hope you like providing support and holding peop... Apr 13 2010, 10:43 AM
tat2dphreak it would have to be plug-and play for the most par... Apr 13 2010, 10:51 AM
JamesM
it would have to be plug-and play for the most pa... Apr 13 2010, 01:23 PM
Smitty911 I don't know about that, Ttat2dphreak.
Jake s... Apr 13 2010, 11:02 AM
BiG bOgGs I would love a preconfigured fi system that could ... Apr 13 2010, 11:37 AM
JamesM
I would love a preconfigured fi system that could... Apr 13 2010, 01:28 PM
McMark You're talking about a nice looking brain inst... Apr 13 2010, 12:02 PM
JamesM
You're talking about a nice looking brain ins... Apr 13 2010, 01:51 PM
Jake Raby PNP really doesn't exist...
Too many variables... Apr 13 2010, 12:11 PM
JamesM
PNP really doesn't exist...
Too many variable... Apr 13 2010, 02:02 PM
904svo
PNP really doesn't exist...
Too many variable... Apr 13 2010, 02:55 PM
JamesM
PNP really doesn't exist...
Too many variabl... Apr 13 2010, 03:04 PM
underthetire
[quote name='904svo' post='1302875' date='Apr 13 ... Apr 13 2010, 03:09 PM

JamesM
[quote name='904svo' post='1302875' date='Apr 13... Apr 13 2010, 03:24 PM

underthetire
[quote name='underthetire' post='1302885' date='A... Apr 13 2010, 07:22 PM
904svo
[quote name='904svo' post='1302875' date='Apr 13 ... Apr 13 2010, 08:04 PM
JamesM
[quote name='JamesM' post='1302882' date='Apr 13 ... Apr 13 2010, 10:30 PM
McMark True, but hardware that's PnP does exist. Tha... Apr 13 2010, 12:15 PM
JamesM
True, but hardware that's PnP does exist. Th... Apr 13 2010, 02:22 PM
Jeff Bowlsby One of your big hurdles will be the harness as wit... Apr 13 2010, 01:30 PM
JamesM
One of your big hurdles will be the harness as wi... Apr 13 2010, 03:02 PM
Jeff Bowlsby
As far as MS being experimental, I consider it ex... Apr 14 2010, 08:49 AM
JamesM
As far as MS being experimental, I consider it e... Apr 14 2010, 10:15 AM
underthetire The biggest PIA that I had with the MS2 install, w... Apr 13 2010, 02:28 PM
JamesM
The biggest PIA that I had with the MS2 install, ... Apr 13 2010, 03:18 PM
underthetire
The biggest PIA that I had with the MS2 install,... Apr 13 2010, 03:23 PM
JamesM
[quote name='JamesM' post='1302892' date='Apr 13 ... Apr 13 2010, 03:30 PM
Mark Henry My SDS TPS install
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/up... Apr 13 2010, 05:10 PM
JamesM
My SDS TPS install
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/u... Apr 13 2010, 06:25 PM
zx-niner I see I'm still the only one voting in the ... Apr 13 2010, 07:42 PM
JamesM
I see I'm still the only one voting in the ... Apr 13 2010, 09:58 PM
Mark Henry
I see I'm still the only one voting in the ... Apr 14 2010, 04:56 AM
Racer Chris
. . I'm already tired of hard starts at 50 ... Apr 14 2010, 05:15 AM
Mark Henry
. . I'm already tired of hard starts at 50... Apr 14 2010, 05:58 AM
underthetire
. . I'm already tired of hard starts at 50... Apr 14 2010, 10:46 AM
JamesM
[quote name='Racer Chris' post='1303177' date='Ap... Apr 14 2010, 11:04 AM
rsrguy3 I can speak to what james has elluded to as I had ... Apr 13 2010, 10:10 PM
Thoward914 Some thing like this would be right up my alley. I... Apr 13 2010, 10:33 PM
rsrguy3 Jeff, Your tone is a bit acrid, and unapreciated, ... Apr 14 2010, 02:20 PM
pbanders
Jeff, Your tone is a bit acrid, and unapreciated,... Apr 14 2010, 04:55 PM
charliew I work on everything I drive, from a ramjet blazer... Apr 14 2010, 02:45 PM
charliew I think the end user could decide what engine harn... Apr 14 2010, 06:10 PM
roadster fan I think Jeff brings up some valid points. I think... Apr 14 2010, 06:46 PM
JamesM
I think Jeff brings up some valid points. I thin... Apr 14 2010, 09:58 PM
BiG bOgGs How about this. James sets up one system that he ... Apr 14 2010, 07:22 PM
JamesM
How about this. James sets up one system that he... Apr 14 2010, 10:14 PM
charliew A base map is just that. It won't be as good a... Apr 14 2010, 07:31 PM
JamesM
A base map is just that. It won't be as good ... Apr 14 2010, 11:00 PM
JamesM Thought I would through in a quick update on the M... May 3 2010, 03:54 PM
JamesM A couple other smaller issues i need to investigat... May 3 2010, 04:17 PM
JamesM A few pics up for fun....
This is the box curren... May 3 2010, 04:49 PM
charliew
A couple other smaller issues i need to investiga... May 7 2010, 06:35 PM
JamesM
A couple other smaller issues i need to investig... May 10 2010, 08:47 PM
BiG bOgGs I have nothing of importance to add to help your p... May 3 2010, 08:50 PM
ThinAir I'm late to this thread, but finding it very i... May 3 2010, 10:04 PM
Markl Looks great, James. I'm putting a MS3 system ... May 4 2010, 07:47 AM
JamesM Bosch 0 280 122 001 might work for you.
Its used ... May 4 2010, 09:43 AM
type47 I have a schedule to have an engine running within... May 4 2010, 12:47 PM
JamesM Technically i could have one ready in a couple day... May 4 2010, 10:31 PM
type47
Give me the details on your car and motor so i ca... May 6 2010, 06:33 AM
the head if the price comes in at that $250 or so rang... May 4 2010, 02:40 PM
JamesM It eliminates the MPS and all the other expensive ... May 4 2010, 10:00 PM
gothspeed Let me get up to speed on this awesome project. Th... May 5 2010, 09:59 AM
JamesM
Let me get up to speed on this awesome project. T... May 5 2010, 05:47 PM
gothspeed
Let me get up to speed on this awesome project. ... May 5 2010, 06:15 PM
mk114 Well James,
You know you have my 1.7 to test on I... May 5 2010, 11:44 AM
JamesM Your car looks so original i am almost afriad to t... May 5 2010, 06:03 PM
eric914 With all due respect, all I can say is to be sure... May 7 2010, 09:57 AM
r_towle James,
What parts would need to be replaced in yo... May 7 2010, 07:45 PM
JamesM
James,
What parts would need to be replaced in y... May 10 2010, 09:11 PM
jcb29 The PO of my '75 2.0 removed all the component... May 10 2010, 09:13 PM
Tom James,
I'm following this thread with inter... May 10 2010, 10:47 PM
rsrguy3 If I remember correctly, we rounded up all the par... May 23 2010, 05:59 PM
underthetire I still can't vote. There is no Already have m... Jun 17 2010, 03:37 PM
draganc James,
I like your project a lot and believe the ... Aug 24 2010, 08:27 AM
JamesM
James,
I like your project a lot and believe the... Sep 25 2010, 07:12 PM![]() ![]() |
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