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mipstien
post May 21 2010, 09:04 PM
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im trying to see what i have and don't have in my engine bay and why i seem to have missing vacuum hoses.
can i get a few pictures of peoples engine bays. possibly one with smog equipment and one without. and what is an anti flash back valve?
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post May 23 2010, 08:04 PM
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i have been reading a little more on
http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/manif...sure_sensor.htm
(mps) and looked at mine and it has been 'played with' basically the seal on it is broke and someone has been turning the screw. can this cause a stall in power at around XXXX rpms or bad idle? if its been adjusted wrong should i look into purchasing another one or should i just try to readjust it assuming that it is electronically sound?

i know i need to make sure that the whole thing is mechanically and electronically working testing ohms and pressure being held.

one last question about the MPS. if the 'glue' seal that it has is broke on the screw adjuster would that cause it not to hold a vacuum and basically need that screw filled in. i didn't see that on the rennlist sight.

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if that is broke does it not keep vacuum basically?
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Q: I've heard that all I have to do to get my car to run right is to remove the epoxy, unscrew the plug (whoops, I stripped/lost/broke it when I did this), and use a screwdriver to adjust that center screw until I think it's running smooth? What do you think?
A: Some of the old D-Jet references suggested a procedure like this to fix part-load mixture issues. The problem with this procedure is that it doesn't comprehend that the full-load stop (the "plug") is a critical adjustment in this system. Removing the plug and either not replacing it or screwing it in randomly will likely result in either a rich or lean full-load mixture, and possible premature failure of the diaphragm due to mechanical stress. Also, depending on the vacuum level in the MPS, turning the inner screw usually turns the outer screw at the same time, due to friction on the threads. This causes the part-load mixture to remain unchanged, but changes the full-load mixture. I strongly suggest that you do not adjust the MPS without using an LCR55 to first characterize the secondary inductance vs. vacuum characteristic. Otherwise, you will lose your reference point for all three adjustments and probably won't be able to get back to them by random adjustments.
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QUOTE(mipstien @ May 23 2010, 07:04 PM) *

i have been reading a little more on
http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/manif...sure_sensor.htm
(mps) and looked at mine and it has been 'played with' basically the seal on it is broke and someone has been turning the screw. can this cause a stall in power at around XXXX rpms or bad idle? if its been adjusted wrong should i look into purchasing another one or should i just try to readjust it assuming that it is electronically sound?

i know i need to make sure that the whole thing is mechanically and electronically working testing ohms and pressure being held.

one last question about the MPS. if the 'glue' seal that it has is broke on the screw adjuster would that cause it not to hold a vacuum and basically need that screw filled in. i didn't see that on the rennlist sight.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/members.rennlist.com-11576-1274666649.1.jpg)

if that is broke does it not keep vacuum basically?


If the mps has been tampered with it can cause all types of drivabilty porblems, including lost idle, power loss at certain power bands, ect. ect. the plug is just a cover. my plug was missing for a year , then i tamperewd with the screws and ooooops!! Screwed myself into a hole.. Luckily my mechanic diod not laugh at me and had an NOS unit, they are expensive and NLA.. BUt there is another solution..

Jeff Bolwsby can recalibrate and replug the mps, he is a memebr here, well known for his 914 knowledge and has a website below...

Basically the MPS is one of the most important sensors on the car, if not the most important..

http://members.rennlist.com/914_wiring_harnesses/
and is this the answer to my question....

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Q: I've heard that all I have to do to get my car to run right is to remove the epoxy, unscrew the plug (whoops, I stripped/lost/broke it when I did this), and use a screwdriver to adjust that center screw until I think it's running smooth? What do you think?
A: Some of the old D-Jet references suggested a procedure like this to fix part-load mixture issues. The problem with this procedure is that it doesn't comprehend that the full-load stop (the "plug") is a critical adjustment in this system. Removing the plug and either not replacing it or screwing it in randomly will likely result in either a rich or lean full-load mixture, and possible premature failure of the diaphragm due to mechanical stress. Also, depending on the vacuum level in the MPS, turning the inner screw usually turns the outer screw at the same time, due to friction on the threads. This causes the part-load mixture to remain unchanged, but changes the full-load mixture. I strongly suggest that you do not adjust the MPS without using an LCR55 to first characterize the secondary inductance vs. vacuum characteristic. Otherwise, you will lose your reference point for all three adjustments and probably won't be able to get back to them by random adjustments.

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mipstien   engine pictures   May 21 2010, 09:04 PM
avidfanjpl   What model or engine number do you have in there? ...   May 21 2010, 09:34 PM
mipstien   75 2l djet. i can get pictures but im missing the ...   May 21 2010, 09:47 PM
mipstien   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=972...   May 21 2010, 09:48 PM
mipstien   hoses that are disconnected are to the air filter,...   May 21 2010, 09:58 PM
mipstien   disregard that yellow hose there it is just an ext...   May 21 2010, 10:00 PM
avidfanjpl   Ok. I see some things. The PCV Valve is the OEL c...   May 21 2010, 10:31 PM
mipstien   i have the aux air valve with both of its plugs in...   May 21 2010, 10:40 PM
mipstien   :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:...   May 22 2010, 08:03 AM
mipstien   so i got to messing with this again today. i remov...   May 22 2010, 04:42 PM
detoxcowboy   so i got to messing with this again today. i remo...   May 23 2010, 11:39 AM
mipstien   aar valve shows the correct ohms and it seems to b...   May 22 2010, 10:22 PM
Tom   You can look in the originality and history sectio...   May 23 2010, 11:08 AM
underthetire   If you haven't found this yet http://members....   May 23 2010, 11:19 AM
SirAndy   A little cleaning wouldn't hurt either ... ...   May 23 2010, 11:54 AM
mipstien   im confused as to why you folks won't answer m...   May 23 2010, 11:55 AM
underthetire   im confused as to why you folks won't answer ...   May 23 2010, 12:10 PM
mipstien   and im sorry im frustrated and really don't li...   May 23 2010, 12:04 PM
BigDBass   Hi, Can't offer up any how or why, but can off...   May 23 2010, 12:06 PM
mipstien   Hi, Can't offer up any how or why, but can of...   May 23 2010, 12:13 PM
mipstien   im confused as to why you folks won't answer...   May 23 2010, 12:15 PM
Tom   Did you look at the engine bay pictures on the ori...   May 23 2010, 03:27 PM
underthetire   If you have normal idle with the aar open and pull...   May 23 2010, 04:18 PM
mipstien   i have a head temp sensor on its way and that was ...   May 23 2010, 04:39 PM
mipstien   i have been reading a little more on http://membe...   May 23 2010, 08:04 PM
detoxcowboy   i have been reading a little more on http://memb...   May 24 2010, 05:58 PM
mipstien   weirdest thing just happened. earlier we regaped t...   May 23 2010, 08:11 PM
detoxcowboy   weirdest thing just happened. earlier we regaped ...   May 24 2010, 05:45 PM
mipstien   so im starting to talk to myself. anyways after a...   May 24 2010, 04:57 PM
detoxcowboy   so im starting to talk to myself. anyways after ...   May 24 2010, 05:51 PM
mipstien   weirdest thing just happened. earlier we regaped...   May 24 2010, 05:48 PM
SirAndy   if so when i put it back on this evening it shoul...   May 24 2010, 05:58 PM
detoxcowboy   if so when i put it back on this evening it shou...   May 24 2010, 06:06 PM
mipstien   so im starting to talk to myself. anyways after...   May 24 2010, 05:53 PM
mipstien   is the wire that goes that thing red or white? any...   May 24 2010, 05:55 PM
mipstien   I'm only asking questions I n theory. I want t...   May 24 2010, 06:15 PM
mipstien   i know you said im chasing my tail but as of today...   May 25 2010, 01:36 PM
mipstien   did some more testing and playing around yesterday...   May 26 2010, 05:25 AM
type47   .... when i plug the leak it runs good or rather...   May 26 2010, 09:17 AM
mipstien   The mps isn't bad but it has been tampered wit...   May 26 2010, 11:24 AM
mipstien   The leak was with the hose not the mps itself   May 26 2010, 11:26 AM
mtndawg   I picked up a 1.7L d-jet a year and a half ago and...   May 26 2010, 01:03 PM
mipstien   for one the forum user that owned the car before m...   May 26 2010, 02:29 PM
mipstien   which direction does the AAR valve go. top hose on...   May 30 2010, 05:07 PM
detoxcowboy   which direction does the AAR valve go. top hose o...   May 30 2010, 05:17 PM
mipstien   well take this for example http://www.914world.com...   May 30 2010, 05:45 PM
mipstien   ok i think i found 'stock' pictures so ill...   May 30 2010, 05:49 PM
mipstien   with the mps unattached the car runs a little stra...   May 30 2010, 06:30 PM


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