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> Stand alone injection? Opinions? For /6 w ITB, help picking EFI system
TorqueJunkie
post Jun 3 2010, 04:49 PM
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I am in the process of rebuilding my 2.4 engine with 2.2S pistons, S cams, and am going to install TWM individual throttle bodies. I am looking around for some fuel and ignition systems for this engine. I have looked at most of the ones out there, but not sure what works best. On some of the other forums, there is a guy running the Megasquirt(latest version) with good results. Another guy is using Electromitive. I have everything except for the control module. What do you guys use on the flat 6 engines? I do not want to spend a ton of money either. I want something reliable. I hated my carbs.
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post Jun 14 2010, 01:21 PM
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I have been running a Megasquirt system for almost 3 years. I only had one problem and that was user error. I accidently unplugged device flashing a new tune. This corrupted the firmware. Wasn't a problem to reload, I just could not figure out what the problem was.

btw, MS is a very powerful ECU. It is true that it is not Plug-n-play compared to some systems. However, if you are willing to learn the basics of fuel injection theory you can build a system that is nearly as integrated as multi-thousand dollar systems. The new MSIII is fully sequential fuel and spark through 8-cylinders.

I do not think you need sequential unless emissions are a concern. I doubt your 2.4 is.

btw, While the early S cam is wonderful there are some more modern cams that will provide much better engine performance. Think E torque curve down low and 906 up high. I think you should contact John Dougherty at DR Camshafts. Something like his DC 43 comes to mind. btw, I would have them ground on a 106-108 lobe center. Anything narrower will give the MAP sensor fits for the EFI. You could run alpha-n (TPS) only but the throttle response gains are in speed-density (MAP).

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I have been running a Megasquirt system for almost 3 years. I only had one problem and that was user error. I accidently unplugged device flashing a new tune. This corrupted the firmware. Wasn't a problem to reload, I just could not figure out what the problem was.

btw, MS is a very powerful ECU. It is true that it is not Plug-n-play compared to some systems. However, if you are willing to learn the basics of fuel injection theory you can build a system that is nearly as integrated as multi-thousand dollar systems. The new MSIII is fully sequential fuel and spark through 8-cylinders.

I do not think you need sequential unless emissions are a concern. I doubt your 2.4 is.

btw, While the early S cam is wonderful there are some more modern cams that will provide much better engine performance. Think E torque curve down low and 906 up high. I think you should contact John Dougherty at DR Camshafts. Something like his DC 43 comes to mind. btw, I would have them ground on a 106-108 lobe center. Anything narrower will give the MAP sensor fits for the EFI. You could run alpha-n (TPS) only but the throttle response gains are in speed-density (MAP).


I have set of new in box reground Web-cam S grind cams. Can't see spending $800 more for new cams. I have so much money in parts that I could have put in 3.6 993 engine by now. Problem is that I spent slowly it over 10 years while family and other issues took priority. Still limited on budget, but would like to get it running this year. I miss this car!

Heads are out getting reworked with Aasco springs/Ti tetainers(man these are nice)and valve job and surfacing.
Case is out for : If usable still, then shuffle pin, face spigots, case savers, oil bypass mod, and rods rebused/shot peened. 7R mag case.

Thanks for the tips. I will really have to learn more about the MS III and see if that is something I want to try or not. Any other issues I should look out for in the EFI set-up? Was told I have to tap each manifold for 6 ports for the vac block connection as well.

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TorqueJunkie   Stand alone injection? Opinions? For /6 w ITB   Jun 3 2010, 04:49 PM
underthetire   I don't have a 6, but I do have megasquirt. It...   Jun 3 2010, 05:02 PM
TorqueJunkie   I don't have a 6, but I do have megasquirt. I...   Jun 3 2010, 11:35 PM
ottox914   Check out SDSEFI.com. It is as advertised, simple...   Jun 3 2010, 08:49 PM
ottox914   I'm surprised you had that experience with the...   Jun 4 2010, 07:18 AM
TorqueJunkie   I'm surprised you had that experience with th...   Jun 4 2010, 02:30 PM
puff adder   Check out the Electromotive Tec III system. I was ...   Jun 4 2010, 09:16 AM
Randal   I used Link on my 2.4 fuel injection motor. Works...   Jun 6 2010, 01:22 PM
J P Stein   I used Link on my 2.4 fuel injection motor. Work...   Jun 6 2010, 01:24 PM
Randal   I used Link on my 2.4 fuel injection motor. Wor...   Jun 6 2010, 02:36 PM
jpnovak   I have been running a Megasquirt system for almost...   Jun 14 2010, 01:21 PM
TorqueJunkie   I have been running a Megasquirt system for almos...   Jun 14 2010, 10:03 PM
jpnovak   Yes, you will need to tap each of the six throats ...   Jun 15 2010, 08:52 AM
TorqueJunkie   Yes, you will need to tap each of the six throats...   Jun 15 2010, 10:31 PM
TorqueJunkie   Do you have a picture of where it goes in the head...   Jun 15 2010, 10:34 PM
jpnovak   Any place that knows Porsche heads should be able ...   Jun 16 2010, 11:23 AM
Britain Smith   Have you taken a look at the EFI systems from Roth...   Jun 16 2010, 04:09 PM
jpnovak   Those are nice!   Jun 17 2010, 10:17 AM
sean_v8_914   you could easily sell those S cams. since the cam ...   Jun 30 2010, 10:56 AM
Randal   If you want a system that works, call Matt Lowranc...   Jul 5 2010, 02:40 PM
Randal   If you want a system that works, call Matt Lowran...   Jul 5 2010, 02:42 PM


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