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patssle
post Jul 6 2010, 06:45 PM
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I might be interesting in taking out the engine of my car and swapping with something better sometime down the road in the future. Currently it's an old VW bus motor, no horsepower, some ok torque in 1st and 2nd, but nothing after that.

I did some searching, and came across a few threads - but are there any good previous threads or articles out there that touch on each engine option available to upgrade to in the 914? Cost, benefits, pros/cons, etc. I know there was a poll once asking which upgrade to do - but could not find it.

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post Jul 7 2010, 07:22 PM
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You could do a 200-300HP Chevy conversion for $5-6K. Subie would be a little more. Rotary power can also be done around the same price.

I really like Raby's motors but they are still a little fragile compared to my V8 and by the time you get 200HP out of them they are very radical and don't have the same street manners as mine. If you are going to stay with a T4 engine, go with Raby's!

A bone stock chevy v8 can do 200hp and you can get one from Craigs List cheap. The engine adapter kit from Renegade will run you around $2k. You will need a radiator, Aluminum from Ebay $200. Misc other parts will run $500-1000. So this is just one option.

With a Subie (awesome!) you will spend $4-5K just on the engine (turbo), less if you just buy and old Outback and strip it. Adapter kit also available from Renegade. Even the transaxle can be retrofitted into a 914. A member here sells axle hub adapters.

I'm thinking of swaping to a 20B Rotary twin turbo (RX-7). 290hp stock at 8500rpm and 265 Ft lbs at 6500rpm. These engines can turn over 10000rpm. The engine itself is no bigger than (possibly smaller) your stock 914 engine. I would be able to drop 500 pounds of dead weight if I go this route. V8 weighs 800lbs

One more cool option is a 2000ish VW Passat Turbo. You can find them cheap. The engine and transaxle can both be installed in a 914. This will give you modern EFI and a modern shifting tranny. You can get a nice one for $4k than you just have to fab mounting brackets and do some minor wiring and fuel line work. You can also use similar year Audi's for the same swap but the prices are a little higher.
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patssle   Engine upgrade options   Jul 6 2010, 06:45 PM
kg6dxn   Check out Renegade Hybrids and Kenedy Engineered P...   Jul 6 2010, 07:02 PM
Spoke   Like in racing, speed costs money, how fast do you...   Jul 6 2010, 07:33 PM
patssle   Like in racing, speed costs money, how fast do yo...   Jul 7 2010, 08:50 AM
Bleyseng   1973-74 2.0L FI engines used are around for ...   Jul 7 2010, 09:28 AM
Jake Raby   First; For budget double what you intend to spend,...   Jul 7 2010, 09:54 AM
BigDBass   First; For budget double what you intend to spend...   Jul 7 2010, 10:08 AM
jmill   A flat six conversion done right (some believe con...   Jul 7 2010, 10:43 AM
Jake Raby   All of us have opinions. Don't let other...   Jul 7 2010, 03:43 PM
patssle   Here's my thinking on the car. My DD is a Mazd...   Jul 7 2010, 11:48 AM
zx-niner   I would love the Nissan 370z as a 2nd car. Great ...   Jul 9 2010, 06:53 PM
JmuRiz   A million different options out there, but remembe...   Jul 7 2010, 11:58 AM
patssle   Thanks for the info Jake. Checked out your website...   Jul 7 2010, 12:15 PM
patssle   When ya'll say "big hp large 4", wha...   Jul 7 2010, 04:06 PM
Jake Raby   I use an existing 1.7/1.8 or 2.0 for a base engine...   Jul 7 2010, 04:50 PM
patssle   Oh absolutely, I'm still early in the research...   Jul 7 2010, 05:24 PM
budman5201   Subie ez30r 6 3.0 liter 206 hp 178 torque at the ...   Jul 7 2010, 06:56 PM
kg6dxn   You could do a 200-300HP Chevy conversion for ...   Jul 7 2010, 07:22 PM
patssle   I've read all that extra weight from the v8 ...   Jul 7 2010, 07:55 PM
budman5201   I've read all that extra weight from the v8...   Jul 7 2010, 08:01 PM
kg6dxn   I've read all that extra weight from the v8...   Jul 7 2010, 08:02 PM
BigD9146gt   [quote name='patssle' post='1340751' date='Jul 7 ...   Jul 8 2010, 10:51 AM
Jake Raby   I have to say that if I ever converted a 914 to be...   Jul 7 2010, 10:54 PM
RJMII   I bastardized my car (It came to me as a wrecked 7...   Jul 7 2010, 11:59 PM
patssle   Good stuff. What does the 3.2 Porsche engine weigh...   Jul 8 2010, 10:00 AM
pcar916   Good stuff. What does the 3.2 Porsche engine weig...   Jul 8 2010, 11:44 AM
patssle   I've run a 3.6L 993 motor in my 914 since 1...   Jul 8 2010, 12:05 PM
BigD9146gt   You know, that makes the 3.2 option a lot more te...   Jul 8 2010, 01:16 PM
pcar916   964/993 engines don't have H2O, thats 996 an...   Jul 8 2010, 05:06 PM
Vacca Rabite   You know, that makes the 3.2 option a lot more ...   Jul 8 2010, 01:22 PM
Root_Werks   Given the 914's age and numbers of decent cars...   Jul 8 2010, 10:26 AM
BigD9146gt   120hp in a 914 is a fun car. :driving: :agr...   Jul 8 2010, 10:54 AM
patssle   120hp in a 914 is a fun car. :driving: :ag...   Jul 8 2010, 11:30 AM
BigD9146gt   Is that from the stock 914 2.0? Mine is a bus m...   Jul 8 2010, 11:45 AM
DanT   a 2056 motor running stock EFI can be very enterta...   Jul 8 2010, 11:59 AM
DanT   in this car :D   Jul 8 2010, 12:02 PM
DanT   this motor was built for right around $2K, an...   Jul 8 2010, 12:05 PM
patssle   That's amazing that the weak little bus engine...   Jul 8 2010, 02:59 PM
Vacca Rabite   That's amazing that the weak little bus engin...   Jul 8 2010, 04:01 PM
Bleyseng   That's amazing that the weak little bus engin...   Jul 9 2010, 03:17 AM
patssle   If everything is being replaced except those coupl...   Jul 8 2010, 04:33 PM
rdauenhauer   Hmmmm... :idea: something to think about! :D   Jul 8 2010, 05:04 PM
patssle   Why is the 2056 better than the 2270?   Jul 9 2010, 07:18 AM
Jake Raby   Its not "better" its different. The 2056...   Jul 9 2010, 07:24 AM
patssle   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=...   Jul 9 2010, 07:27 AM
Jake Raby   If you have 40s, they are still optimum for a 2270...   Jul 9 2010, 08:27 AM
patssle   I keep seeing posts where people are building thei...   Jul 9 2010, 10:03 AM
JmuRiz   quality of parts and materials used in those parts...   Jul 9 2010, 10:30 AM
jmill   I keep seeing posts where people are building the...   Jul 9 2010, 11:32 AM
patssle   Sorry, I used the wrong terminology. I meant updat...   Jul 9 2010, 11:44 AM
mepstein   Read through Jakes website and his powerpoint pres...   Jul 9 2010, 11:56 AM
patssle   Sure, I've been reading his PPTs. I just didn...   Jul 9 2010, 01:25 PM
DanT   Sure, I've been reading his PPTs. I just didn...   Jul 9 2010, 01:35 PM


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