SCCA, E-Mod Options

[Randal]

Ok seriously, you could build a 914 to compete at the nationals, but only if one would be willing to spend some serious cash, just like the competition.

To be competitive you'd need a big 6 (375-400 hp) coupled with the right transmission/gearing and tire combination. JP's two speed approach would work great.

Actually the Beast would be a good starting point, although maybe a bit heavy, but the big motor/transmission combinations are right now sitting up in Reno.

Like a 400HP-normally aspirated 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

[grantsfo]

I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say certain class weight minimums will be attained.

Anyone who thought Boxster AX car couldn't be brought down to 1700 to 1900 lbs just didn't understand these cars well. That's understandable as so few of these cars have actually be torn down and prepared as true modified and prepared class race cars.

I think thing that surprised me is fact that I can get under 2000 lbs with steel fenders and no Swiss cheese of the chassis and a full road race cage. An ax only car could lose 50 lbs of cage!

This post has been edited by grantsfo: Jul 9 2010, 07:11 AM

[Randal]

I am sandbagging a little. Let's just say certain class weight minimums will be attained.

Anyone who thought Boxster AX car couldn't be brought down to 1700 to 1900 lbs just didn't understand these cars well. That's understandable as so few of these cars have actually be torn down and prepared as true modified and prepared class race cars.

I think thing that surprised me is fact that I can get under 2000 lbs with steel fenders and no Swiss cheese of the chassis and a full road race cage. An ax only car could lose 50 lbs of cage!

By spending money, time and effort you can substantially reduce any car's weight. Just look what Paul did with his 914. What was it Paul said about it, "If it doesn't make it go, stop or turn, it gets removed."

So put in the work and $$$ and you'll have a light weight Boxster, but it isn't going to happen without a bunch of work and money.

Unfortunately this throws your cheap build premise out the window and you haven't even touched the engine or transmission yet.

Oh, I forgot, you have Brad as your primary sponsor so all this work will cost you nothing, or maybe Jake is going to build you an engine as your primary sponsor.

Alternatively Brad will surely have a 996 or some other 300HP+ motor sitting around that he'll "bolt in" as part of your deal with BRAG.

[grantsfo]

By spending money, time and effort you can substantially reduce any car's weight. Just look what Paul did with his 914. What was it Paul said about it, "If it doesn't make it go, stop or turn, it gets removed."

So put in the work and $$$ and you'll have a light weight Boxster, but it isn't going to happen without a bunch of work and money.

Unfortunately this throws your cheap build premise out the window and you haven't even touched the engine or transmission yet.

Oh, I forgot, you have Brad as your primary sponsor so all this work will cost you nothing, or maybe Jake is going to build you an engine as your primary sponsor.

Alternatively Brad will surely have a 996 or some other 300HP+ motor sitting around that he'll "bolt in" as part of your deal with BRAG.

Much of the weight reduction is very straight forward. Very simple unbolting of parts and some slight cutting just as on my prepared class 914. I can assure you this car is less expensive than my 914-6 build. Someone with time, a plasma torch, a grinder and a sawzall could do this very cheap in less than two weeks. No exotic materials, no special skills, etc. This isnt a tubeframe and fiberglass car like Paul's. Its a Production based Prepared car. I havent even started cutting the chassis or nonstructural sheetmetal back yet! Thats why I say a Modified class car could reach 1700 lbs. My car with intact chassis will hit 1900 lb FP weight minimum.

With simple bolt on's we expect to get over 200 WHP from my $2500 used 2480cc motor. I'll post they dyno sheets when we are finished. Removing all parasitic accessories and going to electric too!. Conversion of accessories powered by engine to electric is less than $1000! God bless the American drag racing crowd! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Remind us again how much WHP a $25K custom built 2.4 liter T4 puts out to the wheels? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

If you think about it Boxster motors in stockish form produce HP very similar to very expensive race built aircooled motors. New 2.9 Boxster motors can produce close to 300 HP with a few tweaks and no touch of internals.

My tranny has been touched and I can assure you Audi gears are cheaper than what you can find for 901.

And primary sponsor is undisclosed at this point. There are some exciting developments for us Boxster racing enthusiasts that will be revealed soon. Just look for a couple cars from this venture to be at nationals this year.

I like the reframe after all the flack people were giving me when I said my Boxster would go below 2000 lbs. ...Really thats the best you guys can do? "Uhh its super duper expensive" Dooh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Typical 914 enthusiast who is comfortable tearing down a 914 a Boxster is just as easy. Just a ton more stuff to unbolt. Trek saw the pile of stuff I pulled! Filled half of my temporary garage! and there is still a ton coming off! I was always very curious why the guy doing complete spec car tear down in AZ was being so cagey about sharing weight. Now I know!

One really has to wonder why a few people insist in saying Boxster race car would be prohibitively expensive? A competent home mechanic could easily build similar car. If you see my car you will quickly understand it isnt exotic. Its very much a grassroots racer. I can assure you I have less time and money in the car than some of the fancy boxster spec racers we know about! And the car is way more fun than a spec car!

But lets face it your Modified class 914 still has few hundred lbs on the car which is impossible to overcome in AX. Only way Boxster could take on a Modified 914 would be with HP. But again a cheap 3.4 conversion of my car would put it in the realm of a mod class 914. You should drag 222 out to Marina later this month to see how it compares.

As mentioned before the new era of Porsche motorsports is about to be ushered in. I have finally found some other people who agree.

This post has been edited by grantsfo: Jul 9 2010, 06:16 PM