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Open invite and call for help., My new, preserved Oly Blue |
RFoulds |
Aug 10 2010, 12:48 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region |
As you might have seen elsewhere on this site and others, I just bought my fourth 914, this time a well preserved 1974 Olympic Blue, that has been in storage for over 20 years.
So first, this is an open invite for anyone near La Quinta CA to come by and see it anytime you like. And second, a call out for any advice or help to put this car back to dealer showroom condition. Also, what shows I should consider entering once she is complete. One of my first dilemnas is the side stripes. Were these dealer added? or factory? Should I leave the slightly worn originals in place?, replace them with repros, or remove altogether?? Randy |
Tom_T |
Aug 11 2010, 01:44 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Randy - don't know how soon you'd be ready with it for show, but Santa Barbara Region CdE is 10/10 in Camarillo, if that's what you wanted - even if just to go & watch the judging, see P-cars, etc. OCR just had a good one a couple of weeks ago.
Also look for their Judging schools & attend one - if only just for the info on how to play the game. I did so & found out that originality isn't judged until the nat'l or regional level - the rest being a "cleaning anality" contest! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The ad was for info on the sidestripes only, & I don't like the bumper overrider bars either - & "repetitively redundant" on a 74 with F&R "tits" any-hoo! I also don't like the luggage rack cuz it puts holes for new rust in the R deck lid & it's overkill with 16 cf in 2 trunks! .... albeit necessary on the seriously trunk-space challenged 911/912/356 types! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If you didn't get the window sticker &/or original dealer BoS with the car's records showing the options, then get yourself a a COA from PCNA on the 914, so you'll know what the original options were. You may have either Fuchs 2L, Mahle 4-lug, Pedrini or Steelie - then you can decide whether to stick with the original or upgrade as if a dealer option wheel as per those 1st 3 available then in 74 MY (IIRC those accessory brochure pages were from 72 MY & I found them at Bowlsby's classic 914 website). I'm not sure what paint Bleyseng/Geoff is talking about stripping paint off of the Fuchs 2L wheels? - since they were polished rims & petals/blades & a satin finish aluminum background (not painted), & anodized all over. If you have or get a set of those, then Al Reid in Anaheim or Wiedeman Wheels in Oroville can restore them to OE finish & re-anodize them for you to look pristine. BTW - if that 914 only has 25k on it & the paint is in good shape overall - then consult the PCA Zone 8 & Nat'l rules for CdE Classes (available online), because the Preservation/Unrestored Class has a certain max. of the paint etc. which can be allowed to change, & it's something like 20-25%. So that only allows for some airbrushing & touch-up/chip repair, but not a total repaint. It may also apply to other owner personalizations/changes beyond the Windowsticker/Dealer BoS/COA. Otherwise you'll be in the Restoration class,which seems a waste for a low mileage gently used example such as yours! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
RFoulds |
Aug 11 2010, 01:54 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Wow! great info. thanks! keep it coming! Paint is all original, never been touched up, and from the depth of it, barely ever polished. Good shine for something not polished at all. I plan to carefully clay bar, mild polish, glaze and then finish with a sshow qquality carnauba.
I tested the chrome with a soft metal polish wadding, and all marks came right off. no pitting at all on door hanles or bumpers. This week, I hope to drian and remove gas tank, change fuel lines and fuel filter clean tank and replace. After that, I will get into the engine bay and see if I am going to be dropping the engine or not. |
muncokiho |
Aug 11 2010, 03:04 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 14-July 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 11,937 Region Association: None |
Wow! great info. thanks! keep it coming! Paint is all original, never been touched up, and from the depth of it, barely ever polished. Good shine for something not polished at all. I plan to carefully clay bar, mild polish, glaze and then finish with a sshow qquality carnauba. I tested the chrome with a soft metal polish wadding, and all marks came right off. no pitting at all on door hanles or bumpers. This week, I hope to drian and remove gas tank, change fuel lines and fuel filter clean tank and replace. After that, I will get into the engine bay and see if I am going to be dropping the engine or not. The steel wheels are what came on the car which still have the original tires on them. What are you going to do with all the door dings? |
Tom_T |
Aug 11 2010, 03:59 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Wow! great info. thanks! keep it coming! Paint is all original, never been touched up, and from the depth of it, barely ever polished. Good shine for something not polished at all. I plan to carefully clay bar, mild polish, glaze and then finish with a sshow qquality carnauba. I tested the chrome with a soft metal polish wadding, and all marks came right off. no pitting at all on door hanles or bumpers. This week, I hope to drian and remove gas tank, change fuel lines and fuel filter clean tank and replace. After that, I will get into the engine bay and see if I am going to be dropping the engine or not. The steel wheels are what came on the car which still have the original tires on them. What are you going to do with all the door dings? Are you the OO/PO & seller to Randy, or just know the car well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) If the original owner, then you can help fill in most/all of the info gaps & paperwork for Randy, beyond what you may have already provided him as seller. If not the original owner, then it's incorrect to say that all 74 2L's came with steel wheels, because it was an extra cost option on them in 74 MY. As for dings - paintless dent repair is the best option. PCA-OCR had a demo a couple of months ago by a local shop in Huntington Beach (a PCA sponsor) on how slick that worked on a newer Boxster, so IMHO that's the way to go, then do paint chip repair &/or airbrushing to touch-up any other paint defects, scratches, chips, etc. Their should be a paintless dent repair affilliate out in the Desrt Communities somewhere, just check the the PCA Chapter &/or a dealer. Walter's Porsche in Riverside may know. |
muncokiho |
Aug 11 2010, 04:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 14-July 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 11,937 Region Association: None |
Wow! great info. thanks! keep it coming! Paint is all original, never been touched up, and from the depth of it, barely ever polished. Good shine for something not polished at all. I plan to carefully clay bar, mild polish, glaze and then finish with a sshow qquality carnauba. I tested the chrome with a soft metal polish wadding, and all marks came right off. no pitting at all on door hanles or bumpers. This week, I hope to drian and remove gas tank, change fuel lines and fuel filter clean tank and replace. After that, I will get into the engine bay and see if I am going to be dropping the engine or not. The steel wheels are what came on the car which still have the original tires on them. What are you going to do with all the door dings? Are you the OO/PO & seller to Randy, or just know the car well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) If the original owner, then you can help fill in most/all of the info gaps & paperwork for Randy, beyond what you may have already provided him as seller. If not the original owner, then it's incorrect to say that all 74 2L's came with steel wheels, because it was an extra cost option on them in 74 MY. As for dings - paintless dent repair is the best option. PCA-OCR had a demo a couple of months ago by a local shop in Huntington Beach (a PCA sponsor) on how slick that worked on a newer Boxster, so IMHO that's the way to go, then do paint chip repair &/or airbrushing to touch-up any other paint defects, scratches, chips, etc. Their should be a paintless dent repair affilliate out in the Desrt Communities somewhere, just check the the PCA Chapter &/or a dealer. Walter's Porsche in Riverside may know. I know the car, it is not a 2L. The steel wheels should have come with the car they were in the barn with the original tires still on them. |
Tom_T |
Aug 11 2010, 04:51 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
I know the car, it is not a 2L. The steel wheels should have come with the car they were in the barn with the original tires still on them. Dang! I wish I could track down the original buyer/PO who sold me my 73 2L or someone like you who knew it back before I got it! ... lotsa questions! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just so others reading this later don't get confused - both the 70-76 MY's 1.7/1.8 & 74-76 MY's 2.0's could be ordered with the 3 optional factory alloy wheels, or so optioned at the dealers originally (all/most 73 MY 2.0's had the Fuchs on them as one of the "included no extra cost upgrades/options over the 73 MY 1.7s). The original dealer bill of sale &/or window sticker - if available - is the most reliable source for what was originally on a 914 (& PCNA will give you a COA discount if you send in a copy of it/them with your order IIRC), since the COA is often wrongly interpreted by the staff there & the Kardex records from which they create them are often incomplete, inaccurate, etc. It took me 3 tries & a complaint to the customer service GM with copies of period docs for color codes, to get them to correct an erroneous "interpretation" of #31 as black instead of the proper Beige interior color (#11 is black). That all said Randy, a COA is still worthwhile for a 914 like yours & to display at the CdE shows, while the BoS & window sticker are your best friends for authenticity. BTW - if they were originally steelies, then the silver painted "star mag look style" steel wheel is the proper one for your 74 1.8 (assuming it was never factory or dealer optioned with 1 of the 3 the factory alloy styles). There are good pix in the nailed wheels & tires O&H topic, to compare with the ones from the barn. I say this, because dealers often swapped wheels with whatever was at hand, & "borrowed" wheels from one car for another customer, &/or to keep more valuable wheels for part resale at a higher profit, than if they bought same from the distributor. There's a good discussion of how & why that came about in the wheels & tires thread, but basically the dealer could swipe 4 spares from a 914 (5 alloys came from the factory with each 914 - not 4) & substitute a cheap steelie, then with 4 such "thefts" they could resell another customer a set of 4 optional alloy wheels taken from other unsuspecting buyers 914s - & do so at pretty much 100% profit, that being close to what their typical profit margin for selling one 914 was back then! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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