CALLING ALL 2056 engine owner/builders, survey for past AND future 2056 builders Options

[orange914]

i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues incured by others who have built these motors. i recently finished one and so far am extreemly happy with how strong and smooth it runs. there where issues as with alot of things but after working thru them, all is well. my 2056 probably has a bit more done to it than most 2056 builds, that may account for the successful outcome BUT maybe not. from what i've seen this is a highly sucessful combination.

don't be shy and tell us what ALL was done and your detailed experiance with building/driving it. this could be a great help for past and present 2056 builds.

if there is interest i'll make another poll on presures and temp.'s

mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT MCMARK: Added "No Problems"

[realred914]

i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues incured by others who have built these motors. i recently finished one and so far am extreemly happy with how strong and smooth it runs. there where issues as with alot of things but after working thru them, all is well. my 2056 probably has a bit more done to it than most 2056 builds, that may account for the successful outcome BUT maybe not. from what i've seen this is a highly sucessful combination.

don't be shy and tell us what ALL was done and your detailed experiance with building/driving it. this could be a great help for past and present 2056 builds.

if there is interest i'll make another poll on presures and temp.'s

mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT MCMARK: Added "No Problems"

first off I'd be very interested in what Orange914's real costs were, what brand pistons rings etc.. were used, compression ratio etc... and what induction system/ exhaust system was used.

please tell us more about your build up, since you are" extremely happy " with your motor, please tell us more about it.

currently i am planing one for my dead 2.0 liter. I plan to run stock D-jet and exhaust system.

I'd like to know more about the quality of the pistons available (what brands are available?) and how they are designed (ie wrist pin hieght in relation to stock 2.0 liter pistons, and are they doomed, dished, flat topped))
I'd liek to get an idea of piston quality and compression ratios they give with stock heads.

can you all give some more details on piston brands, adn quality?


thanks

[orange914]

i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues incured by others who have built these motors. i recently finished one and so far am extreemly happy with how strong and smooth it runs. there where issues as with alot of things but after working thru them, all is well. my 2056 probably has a bit more done to it than most 2056 builds, that may account for the successful outcome BUT maybe not. from what i've seen this is a highly sucessful combination.

don't be shy and tell us what ALL was done and your detailed experiance with building/driving it. this could be a great help for past and present 2056 builds.

if there is interest i'll make another poll on presures and temp.'s

mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT MCMARK: Added "No Problems"

first off I'd be very interested in what Orange914's real costs were, what brand pistons rings etc.. were used, compression ratio etc... and what induction system/ exhaust system was used.

please tell us more about your build up, since you are" extremely happy " with your motor, please tell us more about it.

currently i am planing one for my dead 2.0 liter. I plan to run stock D-jet and exhaust system.

I'd like to know more about the quality of the pistons available (what brands are available?) and how they are designed (ie wrist pin hieght in relation to stock 2.0 liter pistons, and are they doomed, dished, flat topped))
I'd liek to get an idea of piston quality and compression ratios they give with stock heads.

can you all give some more details on piston brands, adn quality?


thanks

i'll do my best in the details for you, but 2 years back memory... well you know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) to start i drove every one nut's becouse i was a super stickler for details (at least in my mind ; ). there where many extra things that aren't normally done that i spent $$$ for along with starting from scratch and buying ALL 2.0 d-jet components, new harness (+ modifications M.P.S.), sir andy came thru with the builder 2.0 bottom end that was previously line bored, balanced and 6 dowel pin modified crank that just needed polishing.

pistons: o.e. (mahle?) 96mm (slight) dish
rings: deves
cylinders: rimco bored o.e. mahles (94mm to 96mm)
compression: 9.3:1
induction: 2.0 d-jet, 043 (modified M.P.S.), 051 E.C.U. (75-6), jeff bowlsby harness, insulation wrapped steel fuel lines through out hot engine bay area, fuel pressure 31 lbs. (permanent fuel gauge in injector loop)
exhaust: s/s heat exchangers and monza exhaust
ignition: pertronics (great bang for your $)
oil: 30 mm mellings, 0.40 shim in 1st oil.pres. releif valve, tapped galley plugs
flywheel: 11 lb. new o.e. clutch/p.p.
valve train: 9550 cam/matched lifters, titanium pushrods (valve train geometry done), modified 1.7 rockers w/ o.e. swivel feet
cooling: take care to seal tight and use EVERY tin peice and hole plug, ect...

i also spent way too much on the heads. not that they weren't worth it but i just overbought in hind sight. this kind of forced me to do some extra expenses to justify the $ i spent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i'm not sorry at the end of the day, but as i was modifying the fairly stock car away from stock i've always questioned whether a conversion would have yeilded much more h.p./reliability for the same $? we don't have many miles on ours yet, but after breakin and a few to be expected issues with a new motor like timing (and one unexpected machining issue), it ran great and got 28 m.p.g. on the rough tune. it ran no more 325* on the hotest upgrade hyway sprint @85 mph on a 100* day.

since your starting with a 2.0 you won't have near the expense. i think some of the key things to a good lasting/running engine is to focus on quality o.e. parts as much as possible, balancing the rotating assembly, valve train geometry, ignition. good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[realred914]

i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues incured by others who have built these motors. i recently finished one and so far am extreemly happy with how strong and smooth it runs. there where issues as with alot of things but after working thru them, all is well. my 2056 probably has a bit more done to it than most 2056 builds, that may account for the successful outcome BUT maybe not. from what i've seen this is a highly sucessful combination.

don't be shy and tell us what ALL was done and your detailed experiance with building/driving it. this could be a great help for past and present 2056 builds.

if there is interest i'll make another poll on presures and temp.'s

mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT MCMARK: Added "No Problems"

first off I'd be very interested in what Orange914's real costs were, what brand pistons rings etc.. were used, compression ratio etc... and what induction system/ exhaust system was used.

please tell us more about your build up, since you are" extremely happy " with your motor, please tell us more about it.

currently i am planing one for my dead 2.0 liter. I plan to run stock D-jet and exhaust system.

I'd like to know more about the quality of the pistons available (what brands are available?) and how they are designed (ie wrist pin hieght in relation to stock 2.0 liter pistons, and are they doomed, dished, flat topped))
I'd liek to get an idea of piston quality and compression ratios they give with stock heads.

can you all give some more details on piston brands, adn quality?


thanks

i'll do my best in the details for you, but 2 years back memory... well you know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) to start i drove every one nut's becouse i was a super stickler for details (at least in my mind ; ). there where many extra things that aren't normally done that i spent $$$ for along with starting from scratch and buying ALL 2.0 d-jet components, new harness (+ modifications M.P.S.), sir andy came thru with the builder 2.0 bottom end that was previously line bored, balanced and 6 dowel pin modified crank that just needed polishing.

pistons: o.e. (mahle?) 96mm (slight) dish
rings: deves
cylinders: rimco bored o.e. mahles (94mm to 96mm)
compression: 9.3:1
induction: 2.0 d-jet, 043 (modified M.P.S.), 051 E.C.U. (75-6), jeff bowlsby harness, insulation wrapped steel fuel lines through out hot engine bay area, fuel pressure 31 lbs. (permanent fuel gauge in injector loop)
exhaust: s/s heat exchangers and monza exhaust
ignition: pertronics (great bang for your $)
oil: 30 mm mellings, 0.40 shim in 1st oil.pres. releif valve, tapped galley plugs
flywheel: 11 lb. new o.e. clutch/p.p.
valve train: 9550 cam/matched lifters, titanium pushrods (valve train geometry done), modified 1.7 rockers w/ o.e. swivel feet
cooling: take care to seal tight and use EVERY tin peice and hole plug, ect...

i also spent way too much on the heads. not that they weren't worth it but i just overbought in hind sight. this kind of forced me to do some extra expenses to justify the $ i spent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i'm not sorry at the end of the day, but as i was modifying the fairly stock car away from stock i've always questioned whether a conversion would have yeilded much more h.p./reliability for the same $? we don't have many miles on ours yet, but after breakin and a few to be expected issues with a new motor like timing (and one unexpected machining issue), it ran great and got 28 m.p.g. on the rough tune. it ran no more 325* on the hotest upgrade hyway sprint @85 mph on a 100* day.

since your starting with a 2.0 you won't have near the expense. i think some of the key things to a good lasting/running engine is to focus on quality o.e. parts as much as possible, balancing the rotating assembly, valve train geometry, ignition. good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

cool, thanks so it is running nice for you!!!!

I got to decide real quick on piston set to buy (or reuse my factory 2.0 ones) id like a bump in power to keep up,

I also like the idea of Mr Raby's 35 mpg average. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I used to get about 40 mpg all highway driving in my old 1.7 car (fully loaded, driving fast) and mid 30's mpg around town/commute average. (that was on good old gasoline, not the State mandated oxygenated, fuel system destroying crap gasocrapoline that the California nazi like Air Resource Board (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) has forced on us, the forced oxygenated stuff cost more and has 10-15% less energy content than the old gasoline, plus the new stuff can be corrosive to some gas system parts, metal and rubber)

one thing is I am kind of set on D-jet system right now, unless I could afford a better Fi system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) then a bigger yet motor would be possible, maybe a better mpg motor too, with better fuel control system.