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> CALLING ALL 2056 engine owner/builders, survey for past AND future 2056 builders
survey for past 2056 builders
how much was final cost?
UNDER $2000 [ 9 ] ** [16.67%]
UNDER$3000 [ 16 ] ** [29.63%]
UNDER $4000 [ 8 ] ** [14.81%]
UNDER $5000 [ 10 ] ** [18.52%]
UNDER $6000 [ 6 ] ** [11.11%]
UNDER $7000 [ 2 ] ** [3.70%]
OVER $7000 [ 3 ] ** [5.56%]
what problem/issues did you have during build
BOTTOM END case/cam/crank/rods [ 3 ] ** [5.56%]
P&C'S [ 7 ] ** [12.96%]
HEADS [ 3 ] ** [5.56%]
FUEL/EXHAUST [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
MORE THAN 1 AREA [ 5 ] ** [9.26%]
No problems [ 36 ] ** [66.67%]
what problem/issues did you have AFTER engine break in
BOTTOM END [ 2 ] ** [3.70%]
P&C'S [ 2 ] ** [3.70%]
HEADS [ 4 ] ** [7.41%]
FUEL/EXHAUST [ 8 ] ** [14.81%]
MORE THAN 1 AREA [ 2 ] ** [3.70%]
No problems [ 36 ] ** [66.67%]
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orange914
post Aug 20 2008, 11:29 PM
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i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues incured by others who have built these motors. i recently finished one and so far am extreemly happy with how strong and smooth it runs. there where issues as with alot of things but after working thru them, all is well. my 2056 probably has a bit more done to it than most 2056 builds, that may account for the successful outcome BUT maybe not. from what i've seen this is a highly sucessful combination.

don't be shy and tell us what ALL was done and your detailed experiance with building/driving it. this could be a great help for past and present 2056 builds.

if there is interest i'll make another poll on presures and temp.'s

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Jake Raby
post Aug 26 2010, 01:04 AM
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first I did not see the pistons offered for sale on Rabys website, but it is a big website, can yo post a link to the piston page????? I could not find them. I need to get my pistons pretty soon as the engien is awaiting, all part and ready to get together. pending parts.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/home.php?cat=273

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also are teh KB psitons cast or forged, i was told the 96 mm they make are only cast and not up to snuff compaired to the forged ones such as JE pistons. maybe I am mistaken???


Who were they and how many thousand sets have they had pass through their doors??

These KBs have 160K miles on them. I measured them and inspected them and just dropped the crank back into my personal engine that they came from.. I will be REUSING these same 160K mile pistons with just new rings as they spec out perfectly.

JE pistons and many other forged units have negative aspects on the street, to include oil consumption and rattling when cold, these do not.
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.p...&Itemid=112


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I see AA cylinders were used by you, i know a guy who has found AA cylinders to be a bit softer metal when he bores them verse stock cylinders. I have a place that can bore my stock ones to 96 mm, would that be a better choice of cylinder material verse an AA one?

We don't use them off the shelf in our engines. Boring the stock cylinders isn't easy if done right as it requires a torque plate to hone the cylinder under load. It also requires that you know the target roughness average (RA) that the rings you are using and the plateau finish specs.


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I am looking to get a nice daily driver with D-jet with a bit of performance boost, fully balanced smooth motor for long life and decent economy on gas.

Exactly what my engine linked above did for 160K miles, exactly what it will be doing for another 160K miles once I complete the work I am doing to it now. Keep in mind that engine saw zero repair in 8 years and 160K and went over 6 years with no valve adjustment necessary, just checks. It went as much as 23,000 miles on a single oil service.

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just have to select the best parts for it now.

thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!


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orange914   CALLING ALL 2056 engine owner/builders   Aug 20 2008, 11:29 PM
Jake Raby   I'll enter this one as an Enthusiast, not a pr...   Aug 20 2008, 11:52 PM
orange914   I did our spark plug strengthening procedures to...   Aug 21 2008, 01:54 AM
McMark   My first 2056 was built with a set of AA pistons a...   Aug 21 2008, 02:32 AM
orange914   My first 2056 was built with a set of AA pistons ...   Aug 21 2008, 06:49 PM
sww914   My first 2056 is still my first 2056. I spent unde...   Aug 21 2008, 02:53 AM
McMark   Steve, are you aware that there is a fore/aft adju...   Aug 21 2008, 03:23 AM
sww914   Steve, are you aware that there is a fore/aft adj...   Aug 21 2008, 09:29 PM
Vacca Rabite   I built mine over the winter of 2007. my only iss...   Aug 21 2008, 08:06 AM
Jake Raby   Orange, The heads you picked up off me were not po...   Aug 21 2008, 08:48 AM
azbill   My 2056 was expensive because I bought an engine f...   Aug 21 2008, 09:41 AM
Aircooledfool   My 2056 was expensive because I bought an engine ...   Apr 1 2012, 10:27 AM
Jake Raby   Bill, thats one hell of a lot of torque from a sto...   Aug 21 2008, 10:07 AM
396   Great reading... now how does one come up with a 2...   Aug 21 2008, 10:42 AM
Matt Meyer   Great reading... now how does one come up with a ...   Aug 21 2008, 11:44 AM
Jake Raby   Follow the 1.7/ 1.8 >> 2.0 conversion articl...   Aug 21 2008, 11:10 AM
396   Follow the 1.7/ 1.8 >> 2.0 conversion artic...   Aug 21 2008, 01:59 PM
scottb   my 2056 was expensive (>$7000) because i f...   Aug 21 2008, 11:32 AM
pete-stevers   i have never built one...but follow this engines t...   Aug 21 2008, 11:49 AM
Joe Ricard   I guess it all depends on what you want to spend o...   Aug 21 2008, 11:51 AM
Al Meredith   I built a 2056 about two years ago. It is in my 91...   Aug 21 2008, 08:15 PM
McMark   IIRC, I got them for $500 when they were ava...   Aug 21 2008, 09:07 PM
Vacca Rabite   Hahaha! Someone necro-polled! And I jus...   Aug 22 2010, 06:26 PM
DanT   mine was easy... under $3K no issues during b...   Aug 22 2010, 07:36 PM
realred914   i am interested in the REAL world cost and issues...   Aug 23 2010, 08:55 AM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='1069559' date='Aug ...   Aug 23 2010, 06:46 PM
realred914   [quote name='orange914' post='1069559' date='Aug...   Aug 24 2010, 09:32 AM
Bleyseng   I can tell you mine.. Raby supplied 96mm J&E p...   Aug 23 2010, 09:06 AM
realred914   Great thanks for the details!!!!...   Aug 23 2010, 09:15 AM
Bleyseng   The "Best" way is to reuse your 94mm cyl...   Aug 23 2010, 09:24 AM
realred914   The "Best" way is to reuse your 94mm cy...   Aug 23 2010, 09:28 AM
Vacca Rabite   I have heard bad things about the AA sets for high...   Aug 23 2010, 04:52 PM
Jake Raby   Funny this popped back up.. I am assembling a 2056...   Aug 23 2010, 06:10 PM
realred914   Funny this popped back up.. I am assembling a 205...   Aug 24 2010, 09:39 AM
Jake Raby   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='1360279' date='Aug ...   Aug 25 2010, 11:07 AM
Don M   the crank has 260K on it now and still mic'd o...   Aug 26 2010, 07:25 AM
Jake Raby   the crank has 260K on it now and still mic'd ...   Aug 26 2010, 08:53 AM
Don M   The variance in the stock crank sizes is more tha...   Aug 27 2010, 07:29 AM
Don M   The variance in the stock crank sizes is more th...   Aug 30 2010, 08:16 PM
Jake Raby   [quote name='Don M' post='1361949' date='Aug 27 2...   Aug 31 2010, 07:57 AM
Don M   A part number for a set of bearings isn't goi...   Aug 31 2010, 06:48 PM
realred914   [quote name='Don M' post='1361437' date='Aug 26 2...   Aug 27 2010, 09:21 AM
JimN73   I'm going thru a 2056 rebuild right now, the o...   Aug 24 2010, 09:56 AM
scotty b   Jake, what are the limitations with stock 2.0 inje...   Aug 25 2010, 09:13 AM
Cevan   My cost was about $3000 total to rebuild a 2....   Aug 25 2010, 12:14 PM
realred914   My cost was about $3000 total to rebuild a 2...   Aug 25 2010, 11:26 PM
Jake Raby   http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/home.php...   Aug 26 2010, 01:04 AM
realred914   http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/home.ph...   Aug 26 2010, 08:50 AM
Jake Raby   Nope, no O/S or U/S bearings were used or availabl...   Aug 31 2010, 07:06 PM
Don M   Nope, no O/S or U/S bearings were used or availab...   Sep 1 2010, 09:07 PM
Jake Raby   Nope, no O/S or U/S bearings were used or availa...   Sep 2 2010, 08:44 AM
realred914   [quote name='Don M' post='1364840' date='Sep 1 20...   Sep 2 2010, 09:48 AM
Don M   I finished the big end of the rods to the size nec...   Sep 2 2010, 09:52 PM
realred914   still tyring to get the answer Jake: are you usin...   Sep 2 2010, 08:06 AM
Bleyseng   Ahh, its just some fancy Snake Oil......   Sep 2 2010, 09:10 AM
Jake Raby   Ahh, its just some fancy Snake Oil...... Exactl...   Sep 2 2010, 09:29 AM
Bleyseng   I thought it was quite funny when I first saw it.....   Sep 2 2010, 03:15 PM
pete-stevers   Geoff...when are you guys coming back for a visit?...   Sep 2 2010, 03:47 PM


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